List Mgmt. 2024 AFL Draft (Picks 13, 29, 36, 50, 94, 112, 130)

[Ford Fairlane]

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[Peninsula Boy]

Whoa. I just saw C4's post that we are looking to trade up.

I don't have a problem with it.

If they can get into the top 10 and think they can nab a player who they believe has the profile of a number 1 pick then they should go for it.

 

[Addy23]

I know it is going to sound bizarre to you but football IQ is vey high on my list of what I want in a player as well.

It is just that I consider breakaway speed from contests exceptionally highly as it is a trait that only a handful of players have in the competition and some of the best players have it. With speed, you are able to break lines and in the modern game, that is also right up there.

With Bo Allan, it is that breakaway speed in a 191cm that is already powerful that is hard for me to resist. The thing with Bo is that he has the most chance of flaming out with the Top 15 but I think he will be able to fix or at least work on his deficiencies in the AFL.

It's interesting that you like Tauru because he is more of an athlete than a footballer but he's got huge potential. For mind, he reminds me of a springier Bergman. Reid, on the other hand, is pure footballing talent. If he is there at our pick, he will be hard to pass up on.

The actual draft itself is going to be pretty intense this year.

That's fair, I rate football IQ highly as well which is why Reid is a favourite for me. Tauru I love because I see him becoming the next James Sicily and while he's highly athletic, he's got an incredible pair of hands which would help us at both ends of the ground.

I understand your point regarding Allan, but for me when you have the likes of Rozee, Butters and JHF breakaway from stoppages at will, what I want to see is a point of difference in that midfield and for me Allan doesn't have that. I have a huge concern with his disposal.

Gonna be an exciting draft for sure!

 

[Acemanjam]

Inside the top 10 or pick 10 specifically and we are trying to do a deal with Richmond? And if we are just trying to get in front of west coast and Richmond are happy to slide back to 13 for a later pick swap then wouldn’t their pick 11 be enough?


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Nothing stopping Richmond from trading west coast (or another club) pick 10 after we take 11. Would be a d!ck move, but they wouldn't care if they maximise their draft capital.

^this kind of changes if it is a live trade for 11 and not a pre-done trade (before nov 8th)

 

[Macca19]

I’m not sure Reid will be there at 10.

I reckon we are trying to get Tauru

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Sounds like it is 10 specifically from the Tigers

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[davesnothere]

Murphy Reid.

Torn with Reid.

He's either Robbie Gray or a spud.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

I’m not entirely sure yet. Will keep you posted

Part of a deal with Richmond and GWS for the former to get Pick 2.

 

[Addy23]

I’m not sure Reid will be there at 10.

I reckon we are trying to get Tauru

See if it's either one of them then I have no issues but I'd say there's a greater chance Reid is at 10 than Tauru.

Either would be elite picks

 

[PJ Power]

I'm with Addy23 that we don't want to compromise our ability to use our second-round picks which should still net us good players.

 

[1954]

I know it is going to sound bizarre to you but football IQ is vey high on my list of what I want in a player as well.

It is just that I consider breakaway speed from contests exceptionally highly as it is a trait that only a handful of players have in the competition and some of the best players have it. With speed, you are able to break lines and in the modern game, that is also right up there.

With Bo Allan, it is that breakaway speed in a 191cm that is already powerful that is hard for me to resist. The thing with Bo is that he has the most chance of flaming out with the Top 15 but I think he will be able to fix or at least work on his deficiencies in the AFL.

It's interesting that you like Tauru because he is more of an athlete than a footballer but he's got huge potential. For mind, he reminds me of a springier Bergman. Reid, on the other hand, is pure footballing talent. If he is there at our pick, he will be hard to pass up on.

The actual draft itself is going to be pretty intense this year.

Allan's `breakaway speed,' straight line power at the contest, and quick reflexes are definitely the attractions, and if he can reproduce that at AFL level he should be a very good player, but I can see why some have concerns about his disposal and how it would be utilised under kern's game plan if Port draft him.

I'm assuming others may have seen more of him than me as all I have to judge him by so far was his delivery to a static forward line in that wafl prelim, but with the kick it high to Charlie option no longer available and the trading for Luko, hopefully even our dud coach will realise that coaching players to lower their eyes when running through the midfield and at least attempt to kick the ball to the advantage of a leading forward is often the better way to go.

There is unfortunately always the chance of course that even with what should be a vastly different forward set up in 2025 that kern will c*ck it up by trying to turn Lord or Ratugolea into Dixon mark 2.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

This time is a whole lot more fun when we're in the first round.

 

[Addy23]

Part of a deal with Richmond and GWS for the former to get Pick 2.

That's very interesting, but I can't help but imagine no deals will be formally done until draft night because of how crazy this draft is. I think any club that trades/slides back out of top 10 would be crazy to take that risk right now when they don't have to

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

That's very interesting, but I can't help but imagine no deals will be formally done until draft night because of how crazy this draft is. I think any club that trades/slides back out of top 10 would be crazy to take that risk right now when they don't have to

Are you saying the AFL would dare prioritise entertainment value over employee/fan anxiety????

 

[Addy23]

Allan's `breakaway speed,' straight line power at the contest, and quick reflexes are definitely the attractions, and if he can reproduce that at AFL level he should be a very good player, but I can see why some have concerns about his disposal and how it would be utilised under kern's game plan if Port draft him.

I'm assuming others may have seen more of him than me as all I have to judge him by so far was his delivery to a static forward line in that wafl prelim, but with the kick it high to Charlie option no longer available and the trading for Luko, hopefully even our dud coach will realise that coaching players to lower their eyes when running through the midfield and at least attempt to kick the ball to the advantage of a leading forward is often the better way to go.

There is unfortunately always the chance of course that even with what should be a vastly different forward set up in 2025, that kern will c*ck it up by trying to turn Lord or Ratugolea into Dixon mark 2.

I genuinely think Lord or Esava are more likely to play than what people think they are to. I just can't see how we change our forward entries when there's no new assistant coaches. Where are they going to suddenly get a new idea from that they haven't found in the past 12 years?

In all seriousness I'm not even thinking about 2025. I've already started to think about 2026 and how we should set up. Till Ken's here, there's zero chance of us doing anything meaningful

 

[Addy23]

Are you saying the AFL would dare prioritise entertainment value over employee/fan anxiety????

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Haha!

More of the opinion that it'd be quite risky for any club to do that. Nothing to do with the ever-controlling AFL.

Hypothetically, if Port had pick 10 in this draft and we got offers for it right now, I wouldn't be picking up phone calls unless it's an insane win for us. I'd want to see at least how the top 5 pans out before I make any calls on it.

 

[Brian McGee]

If the deal involves gws aswell as c4 has suggested it seems more likely that we are trading down to their later teens picks than up to 10. It’s a hard one to see how it works.

 

[Addy23]

I'm with Addy23 that we don't want to compromise our ability to use our second-round picks which should still net us good players.

While I'm okay to move into the top 10 by packaging up 13 and 29 (I mean there's no other way as I see it), my stance in this draft is we need to take at least 4 open picks. I don't care if 1 is top 10 and the other 3 other 40-60. The depth in this draft is that good that we need to take 4 because next year's isn't as deep. Top end talent is very good next year but it falls away after 20 as it stands quick sharply. There's plenty I'd take between after pick 40 in this draft

 

[Addy23]

If the deal involves gws aswell as c4 has suggested it seems more likely that we are trading down to their later teens picks than up to 10. It’s a hard one to see how it works.

I'm all for us to trade 13 down and trade 29 up. I absolutely have no issues with that either. Saying that C4's info could be right as well.

Richmond have 6,10, 11 and 18 to work with
North have 2 and F1
GWS have 15, 16, 21 and F1
We have 13 and 29

There's enough draft capital there to work out an outcome where everyone is satisfied but I just think it's unlikely

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

Port out: 13, 29, 36
Port in: 6

North out: 2
North in: 10, 11, 36

Richmond out: 6, 11
Richmond in: 2, 15

GWS out: 15
GWS in: 13, 29

 

[PJ Power]

Port out: 13, 29, 36
Port in: 6

North out: 2
North in: 10, 11, 36

Richmond out: 6, 11
Richmond in: 2, 15

GWS out: 15
GWS in: 13, 29

Why do GWS do so well there? We’d want to get some later picks back wouldn’t we? Don’t like the strategy of losing both 29 and 36. Makes the Houston deal even more ridiculous.

 

[Willsy10]

I get trading one of our second rounders to move up but not both, that’s ridiculous.

And the last time we traded a future 2nd to move from 14 to 12 to get Sinn, were we even sure that Essendon were going to pick Sinn with 13? And hindsight suggests it wasn’t worth it.

If this draft is as good as everyone says shouldn’t we be confident of getting good players with our current hand too?

Not sure where I sit with trading up or down.


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[Addy23]

I get trading one of our second rounders to move up but not both, that’s ridiculous.

And the last time we traded a future 2nd to move from 14 to 12 to get Sinn, were we even sure that Essendon were going to pick Sinn with 13? And hindsight suggests it wasn’t worth it.

If this draft is as good as everyone says shouldn’t we be confident of getting good players with our current hand too?

Not sure where I sit with trading up or down.


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This is why I still think there's a greater chance we shift backwards than move forwards.

Say we give 13 and 29 in a multi-club trade to end up with 16 and 21 from GWS. Tbf that could be done us just straight swap with the two clubs. I do know that GWS are tight for spots and cap so they wouldnt mind packaging up 15, 16 and 21 to move up and just have 1 or 2 picks.

Same with Richmond, would they do 13 and 29 for 20 23 and 24?

Split with Sydney for 19 and 22?

There's lots of options here and in a draft so deep, it just seems quite odd for us to trade up from 13 to 10 at the expense of pick 29.

I'll put it this way, I'd much rather take 16, 21, 36 and 50 into draft night rather than 10, 36 and 50.

The only way I'd have 10,36 and 50 is if and when you know that one of Reid, Tauru, Smilie are sliding which we won't know till the draft starts!

 

[JakeNeadeFan]

I thought this year was supposed to be a bit more about volume than quality so it would surprise me if we empty our hand to move up a few spots.

Especially because our u23 players sort of suck and drafting lots of players in the first 30 or so picks is a way to rectify that somewhat.

Although I guess we do have the father sons and academy selections which will fill out the list a bit.

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

This is why I still think there's a greater chance we shift backwards than move forwards.

Say we give 13 and 29 in a multi-club trade to end up with 16 and 21 from GWS. Tbf that could be done us just straight swap with the two clubs. I do know that GWS are tight for spots and cap so they wouldnt mind packaging up 15, 16 and 21 to move up and just have 1 or 2 picks.

Same with Richmond, would they do 13 and 29 for 20 23 and 24?

Split with Sydney for 19 and 22?

There's lots of options here and in a draft so deep, it just seems quite odd for us to trade up from 13 to 10 at the expense of pick 29.

I'll put it this way, I'd much rather take 16, 21, 36 and 50 into draft night rather than 10, 36 and 50.

The only way I'd have 10,36 and 50 is if and when you know that one of Reid, Tauru, Smilie are sliding which we won't know till the draft starts!

I rather have 1 great player than 3 okay first 22 personally

 

[Addy23]

I rather have 1 great player than 3 okay first 22 personally

That's right, but you wouldn't do a deal until you know you're going to land a potentially great player. But also, we've been all been talking about how deep this draft is and the whole point is that you're just as likely to pick a great player in the latter half of the first round as you are in the early. Just that the kids in the first half of the the first round have more runs on the board as it stands