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Definitely notIs it me or is this draft meh after the first half dozen?
If we take a small forward with our first pick the people responsible should be Life of Brian stoned to death.Yeah we just need to take Berry, obviously our biggest weakness is lack of goalscoring forwards.
Also agree I'm flabbergasted that Richmond are going to overlook Jagga even if they do get Pick 1 & 2
I am hoping that recruiters above us rate Langford the same way you do and he is there at our first pick.Here's my top 50 rankings. I've seperated them into talent groups. It's a really hard year this year but I feel the top 5 are a step above the others.
#1 - ASHCROFT, Levi - Sandringham - 179cm Mid
#2 - SMILIE, Josh - Eastern - 194cm Mid
#3 - DRAPER, Sid - South Ade - 182cm Mid
#4 - ALLAN, Bo - Peel - 191cm Mid/Def
#5 - SMITH, Jagga - Oakleigh - 181cm Mid
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#6 - HOTTON, Taj - Sandringham - 182cm Mid/Fwd
#7 - ARMSTRONG, Harry - Sandringham - 195cm KPF
#8 - O'SULLIVAN, Finn - Oakleigh - 182cm Mid
#9 - LALOR, Sam - GWV - 188cm Mid/Fwd
#10 - SHANAHAN, Jobe - Bendigo - 195cm KPF
#11 - MARSHALL, Sam - Sandringham - 185cm Mid
#12 - LOMBARD, Leonardo - Gold Coast - 179cm Mid
#13 - TAURU, Alix - Gippsland - 193cm KPD
#14 - REID, Murphy - Sandringham - 180cm Mid
#15 - TRAINOR, Luke - Sandringham - 194cm KPD
#16 - BARRAT, James - Bendigo - 194cm KPF/KPD
#17 - TRAVAGLIA, Tobie - Bendigo - 187cm Def
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#18 - OUGH, Jack - GWV - 194cm Mid/Utility
#19 - DATTOLI, Jesse - Northern - 179cm Fwd/Mid
#20 - DODSON, Alex - Sturt - 203cm Ruck
#21 - URQUHART, Luke - East Freo - 184cm Mid
#22 - OLIVER, Harrison - Sandringham - 181cm Def
#23 - KAKO, Isaac - Calder - 175cm Fwd
#24 - LANGFORD, Harvey - Dandenong - 190cm Mid
#25 - HYNES, Cooper - Dandenong - 190cm Mid/Fwd
#26 - LINDSAY, Xavier - Gippsland - 183cm Mid
#27 - DAVIS, Hamish - Claremont - 190cm Mid/Fwd
#28 - HANNAFORD, Oliver - GWV - 180cm Fwd/Mid
#29 - BERRY, Joe - Murray - 181cm Fwd
#30 - SIMS, Thomas - Northern - 199cm Fwd/Ruck
#31 - CLARKE, Angus - Glenelg - 188cm Def
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#32 - WEST, Charlie - WWT - 194cm KPF
#33 - GERRYN, Kayle - West Perth - 199cm Fwd/Ruck
#34 - GROSS, Tom - Oakleigh - 181cm Fwd/Mid
#35 - WHITLOCK, Matt - Murray - 198cm KPD/KPF
#36 - MORAES, Christian - Eastern - 183cm Mid
#37 - DAY-WICKS, Archer - Bendigo - 186cm Mid/Fwd
#38 - ALGER, Jasper - Oakleigh - 182cm Fwd/Mid
#39 - WHITLOCK, Jack - Murray - 198cm KPF
#40 - JACQUES, Lachie - Geelong - 184cm Defender
#41 - FAULL, Jonty - GWV - 195cm KPF
#42 - CAMPOREALE, Lucas - Glenelg - 184cm Mid
#43 - HARGRAVE, Phoenix - South Ade - 181cm Mid
#44 - WELSH, Tyler - WWT - 190cm Fwd
#45 - MURPHY, Josh - Murray - 190cm Fwd
#46 - O'FARRELL, Harry - Calder - 196cm KPD
#47 - BOXHSALL, Hugh - Claremont - 187cm Mid
#48 - CAMPOREALE, Ben - Glenelg - 184cm Mid
#49 - CHAMPION, Malakai - Subiaco - 172cm Fwd
#50 - ATKINSON, Ned - Sturt - 181cm Fwd
It’s Just youIs it me or is this draft meh after the first half dozen?
Couldn't have been easy to put this list together! There's definitely some interesting calls in there but I think thats the beauty about this draft. Good work mateHere's my top 50 rankings. I've seperated them into talent groups. It's a really hard year this year but I feel the top 5 are a step above the others.
#1 - ASHCROFT, Levi - Sandringham - 179cm Mid
#2 - SMILIE, Josh - Eastern - 194cm Mid
#3 - DRAPER, Sid - South Ade - 182cm Mid
#4 - ALLAN, Bo - Peel - 191cm Mid/Def
#5 - SMITH, Jagga - Oakleigh - 181cm Mid
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#6 - HOTTON, Taj - Sandringham - 182cm Mid/Fwd
#7 - ARMSTRONG, Harry - Sandringham - 195cm KPF
#8 - O'SULLIVAN, Finn - Oakleigh - 182cm Mid
#9 - LALOR, Sam - GWV - 188cm Mid/Fwd
#10 - SHANAHAN, Jobe - Bendigo - 195cm KPF
#11 - MARSHALL, Sam - Sandringham - 185cm Mid
#12 - LOMBARD, Leonardo - Gold Coast - 179cm Mid
#13 - TAURU, Alix - Gippsland - 193cm KPD
#14 - REID, Murphy - Sandringham - 180cm Mid
#15 - TRAINOR, Luke - Sandringham - 194cm KPD
#16 - BARRAT, James - Bendigo - 194cm KPF/KPD
#17 - TRAVAGLIA, Tobie - Bendigo - 187cm Def
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#18 - OUGH, Jack - GWV - 194cm Mid/Utility
#19 - DATTOLI, Jesse - Northern - 179cm Fwd/Mid
#20 - DODSON, Alex - Sturt - 203cm Ruck
#21 - URQUHART, Luke - East Freo - 184cm Mid
#22 - OLIVER, Harrison - Sandringham - 181cm Def
#23 - KAKO, Isaac - Calder - 175cm Fwd
#24 - LANGFORD, Harvey - Dandenong - 190cm Mid
#25 - HYNES, Cooper - Dandenong - 190cm Mid/Fwd
#26 - LINDSAY, Xavier - Gippsland - 183cm Mid
#27 - DAVIS, Hamish - Claremont - 190cm Mid/Fwd
#28 - HANNAFORD, Oliver - GWV - 180cm Fwd/Mid
#29 - BERRY, Joe - Murray - 181cm Fwd
#30 - SIMS, Thomas - Northern - 199cm Fwd/Ruck
#31 - CLARKE, Angus - Glenelg - 188cm Def
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#32 - WEST, Charlie - WWT - 194cm KPF
#33 - GERRYN, Kayle - West Perth - 199cm Fwd/Ruck
#34 - GROSS, Tom - Oakleigh - 181cm Fwd/Mid
#35 - WHITLOCK, Matt - Murray - 198cm KPD/KPF
#36 - MORAES, Christian - Eastern - 183cm Mid
#37 - DAY-WICKS, Archer - Bendigo - 186cm Mid/Fwd
#38 - ALGER, Jasper - Oakleigh - 182cm Fwd/Mid
#39 - WHITLOCK, Jack - Murray - 198cm KPF
#40 - JACQUES, Lachie - Geelong - 184cm Defender
#41 - FAULL, Jonty - GWV - 195cm KPF
#42 - CAMPOREALE, Lucas - Glenelg - 184cm Mid
#43 - HARGRAVE, Phoenix - South Ade - 181cm Mid
#44 - WELSH, Tyler - WWT - 190cm Fwd
#45 - MURPHY, Josh - Murray - 190cm Fwd
#46 - O'FARRELL, Harry - Calder - 196cm KPD
#47 - BOXHSALL, Hugh - Claremont - 187cm Mid
#48 - CAMPOREALE, Ben - Glenelg - 184cm Mid
#49 - CHAMPION, Malakai - Subiaco - 172cm Fwd
#50 - ATKINSON, Ned - Sturt - 181cm Fwd
Of all those likely available at our first pick, I like Berry the most- quick, clean, one of the few two sided players in the list, good goal sense, good pressure forward- a natural forward with clear potential to develop into a midfielder.Here's my top 50 rankings. I've seperated them into talent groups. It's a really hard year this year but I feel the top 5 are a step above the others.
#1 - ASHCROFT, Levi - Sandringham - 179cm Mid
#2 - SMILIE, Josh - Eastern - 194cm Mid
#3 - DRAPER, Sid - South Ade - 182cm Mid
#4 - ALLAN, Bo - Peel - 191cm Mid/Def
#5 - SMITH, Jagga - Oakleigh - 181cm Mid
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#6 - HOTTON, Taj - Sandringham - 182cm Mid/Fwd
#7 - ARMSTRONG, Harry - Sandringham - 195cm KPF
#8 - O'SULLIVAN, Finn - Oakleigh - 182cm Mid
#9 - LALOR, Sam - GWV - 188cm Mid/Fwd
#10 - SHANAHAN, Jobe - Bendigo - 195cm KPF
#11 - MARSHALL, Sam - Sandringham - 185cm Mid
#12 - LOMBARD, Leonardo - Gold Coast - 179cm Mid
#13 - TAURU, Alix - Gippsland - 193cm KPD
#14 - REID, Murphy - Sandringham - 180cm Mid
#15 - TRAINOR, Luke - Sandringham - 194cm KPD
#16 - BARRAT, James - Bendigo - 194cm KPF/KPD
#17 - TRAVAGLIA, Tobie - Bendigo - 187cm Def
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#18 - OUGH, Jack - GWV - 194cm Mid/Utility
#19 - DATTOLI, Jesse - Northern - 179cm Fwd/Mid
#20 - DODSON, Alex - Sturt - 203cm Ruck
#21 - URQUHART, Luke - East Freo - 184cm Mid
#22 - OLIVER, Harrison - Sandringham - 181cm Def
#23 - KAKO, Isaac - Calder - 175cm Fwd
#24 - LANGFORD, Harvey - Dandenong - 190cm Mid
#25 - HYNES, Cooper - Dandenong - 190cm Mid/Fwd
#26 - LINDSAY, Xavier - Gippsland - 183cm Mid
#27 - DAVIS, Hamish - Claremont - 190cm Mid/Fwd
#28 - HANNAFORD, Oliver - GWV - 180cm Fwd/Mid
#29 - BERRY, Joe - Murray - 181cm Fwd
#30 - SIMS, Thomas - Northern - 199cm Fwd/Ruck
#31 - CLARKE, Angus - Glenelg - 188cm Def
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#32 - WEST, Charlie - WWT - 194cm KPF
#33 - GERRYN, Kayle - West Perth - 199cm Fwd/Ruck
#34 - GROSS, Tom - Oakleigh - 181cm Fwd/Mid
#35 - WHITLOCK, Matt - Murray - 198cm KPD/KPF
#36 - MORAES, Christian - Eastern - 183cm Mid
#37 - DAY-WICKS, Archer - Bendigo - 186cm Mid/Fwd
#38 - ALGER, Jasper - Oakleigh - 182cm Fwd/Mid
#39 - WHITLOCK, Jack - Murray - 198cm KPF
#40 - JACQUES, Lachie - Geelong - 184cm Defender
#41 - FAULL, Jonty - GWV - 195cm KPF
#42 - CAMPOREALE, Lucas - Glenelg - 184cm Mid
#43 - HARGRAVE, Phoenix - South Ade - 181cm Mid
#44 - WELSH, Tyler - WWT - 190cm Fwd
#45 - MURPHY, Josh - Murray - 190cm Fwd
#46 - O'FARRELL, Harry - Calder - 196cm KPD
#47 - BOXHSALL, Hugh - Claremont - 187cm Mid
#48 - CAMPOREALE, Ben - Glenelg - 184cm Mid
#49 - CHAMPION, Malakai - Subiaco - 172cm Fwd
#50 - ATKINSON, Ned - Sturt - 181cm Fwd
Would say the weakness in his game is that he has little to no midfield craft and he's a pure small forward. Usually pure small forwards are lightning quick but Berry isn't. He's got good speed but that's about it. I would say he's top 20 for me but if we picked him up I'd be disappointed. I can't see him having much influence as a midfielder at AFL levelOf all those likely available at our first pick, I like Berry the most- quick, clean, one of the few two sided players in the list, good goal sense, good pressure forward- a natural forward with clear potential to develop into a midfielder.
So I’m interested why you don’t rate him in the second tier, where I would put him. Is it a philosophical preference for proven mids? Is it a perception Port don’t need another small forward? Do you see a weakness in his game I’ve overlooked?
Wish we had a spot/pick for DodsonFrom the little bits I have seen Shanahan looks really good mobile tall. Most drafts seem to have him available at our pick.
Berry looks like an afl player to me.
I'm not understanding the love fest for hynes.
Dodson at 29 seems like a good pick for upside.
From Macca' list, I'd take Travaglia at 16 too even though he's not a need.I am hoping that recruiters above us rate Langford the same way you do and he is there at our first pick.
Of all those likely available at our first pick, I like Berry the most- quick, clean, one of the few two sided players in the list, good goal sense, good pressure forward- a natural forward with clear potential to develop into a midfielder.
So I’m interested why you don’t rate him in the second tier, where I would put him. Is it a philosophical preference for proven mids? Is it a perception Port don’t need another small forward? Do you see a weakness in his game I’ve overlooked?
Does he really fix a need though? Above Rioli, SPP, Richards and DBJ? I think there's more pressing needs than small forward and anyone we get should be able to play a dual mid/fwd roleIve had Berry as high as 15 but ultimately I just rate the players ahead of him slightly better. I feel he might be a bit vanilla at AFL level and whilst i think hes smart with the ball, I dont see him becoming a 40 goal a year small forward.
I could be wrong with him, he and Lindsay are the two ive really wavered on. I wont be upset if we pick him as he does present a need.
I think our small forwards were definitely a weakness the past couple of years and he would be an instant upgrade on half of our smalls on the list from last year. Plus, his favorite player is Robbie Gray, so that makes him an instant pick #1 candidate in my booksDoes he really fix a need though? Above Rioli, SPP, Richards and DBJ? I think there's more pressing needs than small forward and anyone we get should be able to play a dual mid/fwd role
Bowman is a pretty fun player to watch, wouldn't mind him. I think Trainor would easily be best available at our pick if you ignore the concussion thing.For those who care, Ned Bowman spoke on 5AA and said 10 clubs interviewed him with Port and Crows being part of that 10. Wouldn't mind him as a late pick
The real sticky point with this draft is, whoever we select with our first pick determines who we'll select the following picks.
Interestingly enough, I've heard we have a lot of interest in Hynes, Trainor and Berry (I guess these 3 are very likely to be at our pick). Hynes has the highest ceiling of those 3, Trainor would signal a change in strategy to pick a Tall defender with a FRP, highly rated him but the concussions are a tad worrying. Berry, well he's loved in this board for some reason so I guess will make a few people here happy!
Would be interesting to see what we do if someone from the top 10 slipped through. I'm still very keen on sliding 13 back and bringing 29 forward in some way
CuLt HeRoI hope we get that dude called Jack Off
For those who care, Ned Bowman spoke on 5AA and said 10 clubs interviewed him with Port and Crows being part of that 10. Wouldn't mind him as a late pick
The real sticky point with this draft is, whoever we select with our first pick determines who we'll select the following picks.
Interestingly enough, I've heard we have a lot of interest in Hynes, Trainor and Berry (I guess these 3 are very likely to be at our pick). Hynes has the highest ceiling of those 3, Trainor would signal a change in strategy to pick a Tall defender with a FRP, highly rated him but the concussions are a tad worrying. Berry, well he's loved in this board for some reason so I guess will make a few people here happy!
Would be interesting to see what we do if someone from the top 10 slipped through. I'm still very keen on sliding 13 back and bringing 29 forward in some way