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I dont think this is true. I think Port were into Reid over Allan. A lot of work went into Reid the past week which is also why I thought we were genuinely taking him until this morning.
The issue for Freo/Eagles deal was that Freo offered 14 and 30 for 13 and wanted something back. Eagles didnt have anything to really give back and didnt really want to give anything back either. Cal said post draft that this was the issue
Do we trade up ?
Whitlock should be because no one will want him until our pick so we can take him. Shanahan will be gone at the first pick I assume, expect Essendon to jump in. They might give Melbourne's future first. Would be shocked if Shanahan got to our pick. He's slid far enough already and he was, in my opinion which means stuff all I know, the best tall in this draft.
Day 1: Draft for 2025- tick- Berry will play and release JHF to play more mid
Day 2: Draft for 2026+ It's a whole new draft and we have picks 6 and 11. Clear need for a Tall Defender. Apart from Mraz, none of the main tall defender targets are left although there are plenty of Tall Forwards, some with the flexibility to play back. Then there are two unique cases:
Shanahan- I had him higher than Berry- definitely would trade up to get him but I doubt pick 6 and 11 get the job done. Not a major need (there's a good chance Marshall,Lord and Finlayson play SANFL) but potential like his trumps needs.
Dodson- The perfect project ruck. Not a desperate need either. If Soldo had no suitors this year, why would he have any next. The Ruck merry-go-round always presents options. But if he was at pick 6, it would be too hard to pass.
Draft Order
Shanahan*
Dodson
Mraz
J.Whitlock
Nichols
West
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*Trade up, if can, to get
With 11 there will be one of a plethora of decent options: Moraes, Clarke, Gross, Gerreyn, Ought, Urquhart, Unwin, Alger, Sims, O'Farrell, Hayes, etc etc. These guys are more in the "worth a shot" basket than a "desperate want or need" basket. Too many to mention and picking a gem here is Parker's one wood.
We are now perfectly placed to add Benny Barrett to our Cat B rookie list or match if some bastard tries to bid. Welcome, Benny.
Day 2: Draft for 2026+ It's a whole new draft and we have picks 6 and 11. Clear need for a Tall Defender. Apart from Mraz, none of the main tall defender targets are left although there are plenty of Tall Forwards, some with the flexibility to play back. Then there are two unique cases:
Shanahan- I had him higher than Berry- definitely would trade up to get him but I doubt pick 6 and 11 get the job done. Not a major need (there's a good chance Marshall,Lord and Finlayson play SANFL) but potential like his trumps needs.
Dodson- The perfect project ruck. Not a desperate need either. If Soldo had no suitors this year, why would he have any next. The Ruck merry-go-round always presents options. But if he was at pick 6, it would be too hard to pass.
Draft Order
Shanahan*
Dodson
Mraz
J.Whitlock
Nichols
West
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*Trade up, if can, to get
With 11 there will be one of a plethora of decent options: Moraes, Clarke, Gross, Gerreyn, Ought, Urquhart, Unwin, Alger, Sims, O'Farrell, Hayes, etc etc. These guys are more in the "worth a shot" basket than a "desperate want or need" basket. Too many to mention and picking a gem here is Parker's one wood.
We are now perfectly placed to add Benny Barrett to our Cat B rookie list or match if some bastard tries to bid. Welcome, Benny.
Are we just going to ignore an AA key defender from WA? Mraz barely played games, Dennis and Barratt then Mraz for me
How are midfielders not a need? Aside from our best 3, our depth is very average
yeah i agre,
Do we just take J.Whitlock with 33 if available?
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Mraz more of a genuine kpp height. Injury history and kicking skills are a worry for me, but would be happy to take him. I wouldn’t mind barrat or Dennis but they are a bit shorter.
I feel like one of these is a need though.
My dislike for Whitlock's style of play is well documented here so I would obviously say no haha.
I'm torn if it's not Shanahan, I'd just take any of Clarke, Dennis or James Barratt. Then I'd take Luke Kennedy with pick 38 (my bolter). Then if we have our pick 94 at the end of the draft (i.e Barrett doesn't get a bid) which will come into 60s, pick a tall then or another midfielder and then a tall in the rookie draft.
There's two things I significantly grade prospects down on, injuries and kicking. Hence why Mraz isn't in my calculations. Not saying he won't be good, but the risk/reward isn't within my range
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Yup 100% agree with you here.
Angus Clarke pick 33 followed by Charlie West pick 38 than wait for a bid match on Benny which is unlikely to happen now with our pick 94 which will come in around the 60s.
If no bid than Phoenix Hargrave with our last pick which would be a steal and Barrett moves to the Cat B spot.
Rookie spot Jay Polkinghorne if we are lucky.
Yeah this is the 2nd best scenario for me.
First is Shanahan falls to us and then we take Dennis or Barratt or Clarke. Then Hargrave if no bid on Barrett and Polkinghorne (strong interest from Collingwood) if we are lucky like you said. I also like Ravenhill from WA as a rookie
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We absolutely should be trying to trade up here to get Shanahan or Whitlock. Problem is, there will be a number of teams trying the same. Essendon are going to throw everything at Richmond to get that pick for Shanahan.
Our only real option is West Coast with 33 and 38 for 30 and 44. Nothing else is really possible
Our only real option is West Coast with 33 and 38 for 30 and 44. Nothing else is really possible
I'd be happy to do it without 44 and then just select at the end of the draft. I feel like there is going to be some decent quality still on the table then anyway (maybe even who we would pick with 44 anyway).
David Gourdis 2.0
Drew 5+ years left at a B level AFL mid
Rozee 7+ years left at a A+ AFL mid
Butters 7+ A+
JHF 9 + A+
Mead 7+ B (he's only 23)
J.Burgoyne, Sinn, Lorenz -all 10 years on the outside
Sinn, Jones, Bergman, Berry - a good case can be made for potential to play inside in the future at a high level
Barrett- now certain to be a Port player unless a bid comes in the next 11- an outside chance of being an AFL midfielder
Given Jase Burgoyne's DNA, a chance to become an inside mid of high quality. I saw his dad at 21 and his uncle at 20 and had no idea they would become key premiership winning inside mids at that time.
I have liked what I've seen from Jackson too but his progress has been too slow due to injury.
And I haven't even mentioned McEntee and Atkins yet
SPP (inside), Richards, Farrell. DBJ was recruited as a tagger and now that he is no longer a forward will be the ultimate utility.
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All the talls have fallen so dont see it being a Shanahan issue in itself. Plus all the media, not just BF have rated him.
Plus Mckenzie had substantial mental health ptoblems which is what saw him retire very early. I guess we only see the talent side of things and arent privy to what occurs in interviews etc
Yeah I'm doing any deal only for Shanahan or hold firm
What you've shown there is precisely my issue. We have 3 A+ midfielders and hen drop do a B as our next best option. That is exactly the issue I'm talking about. The midfield is far too important a position for our back ups to be that much lower in grading to our best.Drew 5+ years left at a B level AFL mid
Rozee 7+ years left at a A+ AFL mid
Butters 7+ A+
JHF 9 + A+
Mead 7+ B (he's only 23)
J.Burgoyne, Sinn, Lorenz -all 10 years on the outside
Sinn, Jones, Bergman, Berry - a good case can be made for potential to play inside in the future at a high level
Barrett- now certain to be a Port player unless a bid comes in the next 11- an outside chance of being an AFL midfielder
Given Jase Burgoyne's DNA, a chance to become an inside mid of high quality. I saw his dad at 21 and his uncle at 20 and had no idea they would become key premiership winning inside mids at that time.
I have liked what I've seen from Jackson too but his progress has been too slow due to injury.
And I haven't even mentioned McEntee and Atkins yet
SPP (inside), Richards, Farrell. DBJ was recruited as a tagger and now that he is no longer a forward will be the ultimate utility.
Get a feeling Nicholls is off to Hawks
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