2024 Draft Thread.

[Mat Mann]

Draft Period, November 20–21

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Wednesday, November 20
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Thursday, November 21
• Rookie Promotions: Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Friday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Friday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Friday, November 22, 3.20pm

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

A simple Google search will verify. Some years there are absolute clear, no questions asked, No.1 picks, but Petracca was definitely not one of those. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I don't think we can blame the saints recruiting staff for not foreseeing head trauma.

Not only head trauma. The guy was better at full-back as it turned out.

 

[austinnn]

Is there any world both Smillie and Lalor are available at our picks? Seems extremely unlikely so I won't get my hopes up.

One of those two are my preferred option at 7.

Let's assume Richmond gets North's pick 2.

They could choose FOS and Jagga.

Would Carlton choose Lalor or Smilie, with Cripps set to play for ages? They might as easily choose Smith or even Draper.

If that happens, do we offer 8 and f1 to the Crows for the next pick? Get Lalor then if Dees go for Langford and North choose Tauru, Smilie is up for grabs.

 

[austinnn]

Im not projecting he will be a star, but he was playing through a back injury which eventually cost him games. Lets see what he looks like injury free and with a full preseason.

Hotton is the other if he gets another year. He came to the club with a back injury and really only got going in the second half of this year

Any chance Carton will do something weird like choose him with their 3 because of his old man? I'd happy to send Olli there as a DFA to keep the family together and sweeten the pot

 

[akaifu]

Let's assume Richmond gets North's pick 2.

They could choose FOS and Jagga.

Would Carlton choose Lalor or Smilie, with Cripps set to play for ages? They might as easily choose Smith or even Draper.

If that happens, do we offer 8 and f1 to the Crows for the next pick? Get Lalor then if Dees go for Langford and North choose Tauru, Smilie is up for grabs.

1. Lalor
2. FOS
3. Draper
4. ?

Adelaide are the ones we have no idea about, Jagga probably likely atm

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

1. Lalor
2. FOS
3. Draper
4. ?

Adelaide are the ones we have no idea about, Jagga probably likely atm

Jagga & Fos? under the noses of the Tiges. Does that mean something?

 

[akaifu]

Jagga & Fos? under the noses of the Tiges. Does that mean something?

No, I don't think Jagga playing for Tigers VFL locks him at one of their picks. Langford also played for them, why is no one locking him in as much as they are for Jagga?

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

No, I don't think Jagga playing for Tigers VFL locks him at one of their picks. Langford also played for them, why is no one locking him in as much as they are for Jagga?

Oh OK, it was Langford, not Fos, thanks. Yeah well, with their hand, Jagga & Langford would be ideal for them then.

 

[True Blue Saint]

Ideally I'd like to get Smillie/Langford/slider mid at 7, then split 8 in to 2 picks in the teens to grab 2 of Hannaford/Hynes/Hotton/Berry.
If SOS can work some magic to get Dodson around 20ish then we'll be balling

 

[akaifu]

Oh OK, it was Langford, not Fos, thanks. Yeah well, with their hand, Jagga & Langford would be ideal for them then.

Oh sorry, all 3 played for them is what I meant. So you were correct + Langford

I misunderstood your message

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Ideally I'd like to get Smillie/Langford/slider mid at 7, then split 8 in to 2 picks in the teens to grab 2 of Hannaford/Hynes/Hotton/Berry.
If SOS can work some magic to get Dodson around 20ish then we'll be balling

Hannaford is X factor, but we got Owens=similar?
Lindsay, Hotton & Dodson would be good.
With having Pou & Windy, then maybe Garcia & Owens as grunt mids already, I'm into the class of Lindsay, Hotton, added to Wilson. Think that could be an awesome hybrid midfield going forward.

 

[BarkerFan]

A simple Google search will verify. Some years there are absolute clear, no questions asked, No.1 picks, but Petracca was definitely not one of those. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I don't think we can blame the saints recruiting staff for not foreseeing head trauma.

Nope. Petracca was one of the most clear no. 1 consensus picks over the past 20 years. Not Harley Reid but nothing like this year. And yes we can blame the saints recruiting team. it was their responsibility and they got it horribly wrong

 

[sammm]

Nope. Petracca was one of the most clear no. 1 consensus picks over the past 20 years. Not Harley Reid but nothing like this year. And yes we can blame the saints recruiting team. it was their responsibility and they got it horribly wrong

At the time, the Saints were sortve desperate for a forward to replace Reiwoldt. They were very concerned about how much a forward would cost.

They blinked.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Future Team

B. Sch'maker Cole Bice?

H.B. Hastie Caminiti NWM

C. Lindsay Phillipou Wilson

H.F. Collard Keeler T.Hotton

F. Higgins King Sharman

Foll. Dodson Garcia Windhager

I/C. Heath, Owens, Boxshall, Byrnes, Hall or O.Hotton-sub

 

[Sainter93]

A bit like what David King said we need to find that midfielder that will stand up and put the side on his back in the critical moments.

I’m not sure which mid that would be in this draft.. maybe Langford?

 

[HeavenlySources]

A bit like what David King said we need to find that midfielder that will stand up and put the side on his back in the critical moments.

I’m not sure which mid that would be in this draft.. maybe Langford?

Pretty well all of the top 6 mids. Lalor, FOS, Draper, Jagga, Langford & Smillie all seem like they could have those traits. Lalor seems like the one that could be that LDU type in the future.

 

[Rogue Warrior]

A bit like what David King said we need to find that midfielder that will stand up and put the side on his back in the critical moments.

I’m not sure which mid that would be in this draft.. maybe Langford?

David king was implying we’ve shat the bed at the draft for the last 20 years. I think we’ve done better than ok in the last 3yrs + I look forward to Max King making Cornes, Barret and co look silly in 2025.

 

[_Maximus_12]

I really hope we take Smilie. The only limiting factor with him will be what happens between the ears. If he’s disciplined and gets the most out of himself, he’ll be the most impactful mid in this draft by the end of his career

 

[HeavenlySources]

David king was implying we’ve shat the bed at the draft for the last 20 years. I think we’ve done better than ok in the last 3yrs + I look forward to Max King making Cornes, Barret and co look silly in 2025.

They are the types to stick to their opinion regardless of whether the facts are on their side. Joe Daniher made Cornes look a bit silly. Chris Fagan the same with David King.

 

[akaifu]

A bit like what David King said we need to find that midfielder that will stand up and put the side on his back in the critical moments.

I’m not sure which mid that would be in this draft.. maybe Langford?

Maybe but I feel like Langford is more a productive and 'consistent throughout games' performer - will get your 6+ disposals every quarter. Same for Jagga

Imo all of the top mids can do it in their own ways, but if you're looking for the 'game-changing moments' players; Lalor, FOS, Smillie are the main 3

Lalor and Smillie with their size and strength could do it like Trac and Cripps

FOS more like a Warner or Dangerfield

Further down the order is obviously Hotton who has max x-factor. Allan and Hynes also very explosive. Hannaford if he can move into the mids eventually also has x-factor

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Draft Picks

7. Lindsay
8. Hotton
32. Dodson
47. Cole

Rookie:

1. Boxshall
2. Bice
3. McMahon

Then whatever

 

[Daniels2Heatley]

Nope. Petracca was one of the most clear no. 1 consensus picks over the past 20 years. Not Harley Reid but nothing like this year. And yes we can blame the saints recruiting team. it was their responsibility and they got it horribly wrong

Respectfully disagree BarkerFan.

Time changes many things but it doesn't change facts.

2014 coincided with the near end of the Riewoldt era with no obvious heir apparent.

Prior to the draft in the 2014 trade period, Tom Boyd the recent No. 1 draft pick was traded to the Bulldogs on a 7 year $7 million contract.

Cal Twomey predicted a draft order of McCartin, Brayshaw and then Petracca.

Clearly Trac has turned out the best of the lot and as much as I wish you could, you can't blame the saints recruiting team at the time for this stuff up.

Here's to positive vibes that the recent drafting trend continues and we smash this upcoming draft.

Go saints

 

[Ads734]

1. Richmond - Jagga Smith - Sam Walsh
2 BL - Ashcroft - Lachie Neale
3. North Melbourne Alex Tirau (Cooper Sharman)
3 Carlton - Sam Lalor -
4 Adelaide - Sid Draper JHF
5 Melbourne - FOS -
6 Richmond
7 St Kilda
8 St Kilda (Josh Battle compensation pick)
9 Melbourne (received from Essendon in pick swaps trade)
10 Richmond (received from Fremantle in Shai Bolton trade)
11 Richmond (received from Fremantle in Shai Bolton trade, tied to Collingwood)
12 West Coast (received from Carlton in three-way trade for Liam Baker)
13 Port Adelaide (received from Gold Coast in three-club mega trade, tied to Western Bulldogs)
14 Fremantle (received from Richmond in Shai Bolton trade, Rich received from Carlton in three-way trade for Liam Baker; Carl originally received from Hawthorn in pick swaps trade)
15 Greater Western Sydney
16 Greater Western Sydney (Harry Perryman compensation pick)
17 Western Bulldogs (received as part of four-club mega trade, originally held by Geelong)
18 Richmond (received from Fremantle in Shai Bolton trade, tied to Port Adelaide)
19 Sydney
20 Richmond (received from Brisbane in pick swaps trade)
21 Greater Western Sydney (Isaac Cumming compensation pick)
22 Sydney (North Melbourne assistance package selection)
23 Richmond (received from Gold Coast in Daniel Rioli trade, originally North Melbourne assistance package selection)

Hall was playing in a completely new system AND was played out of position, of course his numbers don't jump out

But if you watch the VFL games, you would've seen some really nice glimpses especially in the final game where he clearly stood out as one of the BOGs. Played like Henry where it was more damage per disposal rather than quantity

He showed a significant improvement post-injury - probably after more education and learning more about our game style

I reckon with 3-5 more rounds of the season, he would've made a debut

He's 22. Had 2 years wiped out by knees when he was 16 and 17 AND was in the COVID cohort so had zero continuity. Once he started playing again, Dalrymple said he was one of the biggest 2023 off-season improvers in the state leagues, hence his good form at the start of the year

This has late-bloomer written all over it if I've ever seen one.

Yep looks like an early stage Sincs , especially up forward.

 

[_Maximus_12]

Draft Picks

7. Lindsay
8. Hotton
32. Dodson
47. Cole

Rookie:

1. Boxshall
2. Bice
3. McMahon

Then whatever

 

[TheJackal]

At the time, the Saints were sortve desperate for a forward to replace Reiwoldt. They were very concerned about how much a forward would cost.

They blinked.

Joffaboy Dard Ball Get I can't remember what last year's draft/trade threads favourite words were, but first contender for this year has got to be sortve.

 

[Remboy]

Joffaboy Dard Ball Get I can't remember what last year's draft/trade threads favourite words were, but first contender for this year has got to be sortve.

Borked was my favourite.