2024 Draft Thread.

[Mat Mann]

Draft Period, November 20–21

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Wednesday, November 20
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Thursday, November 21
• Rookie Promotions: Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Friday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Friday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Friday, November 22, 3.20pm

 

[austinnn]

Yes Hotton is very appealing. If we went for him l could understand it but 7-8 just seems a bit high in the context of injury and no games this year.
I'm also very keen on Hynes and Hannaford so l hope we can pull off a trade and get several of them.

We'd have to be the dumbest counts in creation to pick Hotton in the top 10, especially as we're about to delist his older brother.

 

[austinnn]

all you draft experts, just wait until SOS goes BANG with pick 7 and calls out billy the kid (goat) hannaford (aka molt's boy)

Lucas Camporeale surely you meant

 

[CursingFijian]

I now believe there is 7 A grade talents + the star potential of Tauru in the top 8 picks.

Harry Sheezel V2

It seems rumours are true… I think I’m a Reid fan boy now.

Elite

He does a lot of pop over the top handballs which just don’t work in the AFL, but that should be an easy fix.

Interestingly his stats in the National Champs this year show he has the smallest inside 50 ratio for the leading class of mids. By a long way. That suggests to me that most of his work is between the arcs or behind the ball.

He did kick an equal high number of goals though (compared to other mids) so he still has scoreboard impact.

 

[Ads734]

Thankyou captain obvious. I was no way implying our discussion was influencing the draft order. A compilation of phantom drafts, draft whispers and logic suggest this is a feasible outcome.

Views to suggest multiple talls get taken in the top 6, in my opinion are based on wishful thinking.

My suggestion is risk mitigation, to take chance out of the equation. Given we are in unique position to control our own destiny.

Once again the only one with a clue are Val twomey and the recruiters. Getting scared due to ‘mock drafts’ is akin to being worried due to a David king prediction.

 

[stavro#4]

So in a bad game he's comparable to Reid. Has blistering pace, an elite kick and will start at HBF because he a bit small ATM.

Yep. I'm very ok with that

No, in a bad game he couldn’t get near the ball and showed he had no tricks to impact a game outside of his run.

In a bad game he showed all the same traits that people have smashed Reid for.

Reid’s ability to go forward and impact the game in other ways - whilst bringing his team mates into the game is what is separating these two as prospects.

Search Reid’s grand final. Only played half a game before getting injured. Only 8 or so touches. Kicks a goal and a goal assist.

It’s going to come down to what you’re looking for and want to see. For me, Lindsay has the physical traits. Reid’s understanding of the game might be best in class however.

Only way he is as good as he is. Because he doesn’t have the same tools as Lindsay for example.

 

[stavro#4]

He does a lot of pop over the top handballs which just don’t work in the AFL, but that should be an easy fix.

Interestingly his stats in the National Champs this year show he has the smallest inside 50 ratio for the leading class of mids. By a long way. That suggests to me that most of his work is between the arcs or behind the ball.

He did kick an equal high number of goals though (compared to other mids) so he still has scoreboard impact.

Most of his footage shows him linking the play between the arcs.

Very unselfish stuff.

 

[Ads734]

Lindsay reminds me a lot of Mathew Ling and Lochie O'brien

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Lochie O'brien

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

9.3

4star

HB

3.9

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.3

3star

CL

0.7

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

3.2

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.4

4star

CL

1.0

3star

 

[Coconut_twirl]

An update on delisting can’t be too far away. Should be letting the players know as soon as possible.

 

[gringo2011]

We need to draft best available and if Reid is there we should pull the trigger. You worry about the other stuff later. What Reid will provide us instantly is a high footy IQ with slick skills and eye for goal.

We all view and watch football differently but I can't see many similarities between he and Clark. Maybe except for the long hair. And let's be honest, if we draft Reid and he becomes a better player then Clark, isn't that a good thing that we are improving our list and team?

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I love Reid, but the Clark thing is also probably there....a little bit in the way he plays a unique brand. Both have deficiencies in their game but both are properly different players. If Clark had been a more driven personality and less injury prone he probably could have been a very special player. Same as Jake Stringer. Both liked the lifestyle more than the discipline.

Reid and Clark are both architects more than builder's labourers. Both seem to see the game unfolding ahead of them and create opportunity through unique distribution.

To me if Reid has the right attitude he'd be a no brainer. Pendlebury is probably the obvious example of a player that creates more than bludgeons his way through the game. I think that's the comparison with Gryan Miers too. He has that ability to find the most creative and unexpected delivery inside 50.

 

[saintmike65]

Yes Langfords speed seem to be a concern ,although he gets it a hell of a lot.
Has anyone have his results ?

Langford ran a slow 20 metre sprint at the combine, Smillie was quicker.
Speaking of the sprint, Lennox Hoffman ran a super quick 2.96 seconds at the state combine!

 

[gringo2011]

I see zero need for Lindsay. Who’s gonna get the ball to all these outside runners?

Steele, Phillipou and Macrae for now. If we take two pure inside mids they might not play much for 2 or 3 years. No side carries 4 specialist inside mids. Smilie and Lalor types might appeal for that reason because both are probably going to play a lot of footy outside the midfield. Hobbs and Ward are both struggling to play regular footy because they are pretty much specialist clearance players with no second strings.

 

[saintmike65]

We'd have to be the dumbest counts in creation to pick Hotton in the top 10, especially as we're about to delist his older brother.

Agree…Suns picked Elijah Hewitt at #7 & then traded him out after struggling to recover from his ACL!

 

[gringo2011]

Langford ran a slow 20 metre sprint at the combine, Smillie was quicker.
Speaking of the sprint, Lennox Hoffman ran a super quick 2.96 seconds at the state combine!

The problem with Smilie for me was watching him, he often gets caught but breaks tackles due to his size. That advantage isn't going to be there in the big league. Langford looks like a player who has always been a bit slow off the mark so has developed his game to make up for it.

I feel like Smilie could be an absolute star or absolute spud. Langford looks a lot more like a safe bet with potentially a bit lower ceiling.

 

[saintmike65]

Steele, Phillipou and Macrae for now. If we take two pure inside mids they might not play much for 2 or 3 years. No side carries 4 specialist inside mids. Smilie and Lalor types might appeal for that reason because both are probably going to play a lot of footy outside the midfield. Hobbs and Ward are both struggling to play regular footy because they are pretty much specialist clearance players with no second strings.

The difference between Lalor & Smillie is Lalor plays mid & forward, Smillie only mid due to his lack of contested marking

 

[stavro#4]

Steele, Phillipou and Macrae for now. If we take two pure inside mids they might not play much for 2 or 3 years. No side carries 4 specialist inside mids. Smilie and Lalor types might appeal for that reason because both are probably going to play a lot of footy outside the midfield. Hobbs and Ward are both struggling to play regular footy because they are pretty much specialist clearance players with no second strings.

The 3 highest rated prospects likely at our picks at this stage

• Smillie
• Langford
• Reid

Have all shown that they can play forward. They will all get that opportunity for the next few years.

What’s probably important is that it’s unlikely P7 or P8 will get as many games in year 1 as Pou and Wilson. Our development is further along and our list is much stronger.

So getting traditional Mids isn’t going to be an issue as they will be able to develop

 

[gringo2011]

Good pace, good tank, tackles hard, clean direct handballs to advantage and an accurate monster kick. Even a loopy little handball at 1:00 for the Reid fans.
No tinsel, just quality.

He made more errors than I remembered. Travaglia looks actually like the excitement factor along side him. They'd be a good pairing. Lindsay is quite vanilla. Travaglia a bit more flashy.

 

[gringo2011]

Plenty of good midfield options later in the draft but most of them have issues with their kicking; Gross, Moraes, Urquhart, Hargrave

I think Warburton is a sneaky chance of being at least a second round pick - speedy HB/mid with good foot skills - could be worth a look if we end up with Smillie + Reid

Moraes is a pretty good kick overall but not sure he's a pure mid.

 

[gringo2011]

The 3 highest rated prospects likely at our picks at this stage

• Smillie
• Langford
• Reid

Have all shown that they can play forward. They will all get that opportunity for the next few years.

What’s probably important is that it’s unlikely P7 or P8 will get as many games in year 1 as Pou and Wilson. Our development is further along and our list is much stronger.

So getting traditional Mids isn’t going to be an issue as they will be able to develop

I think you want to think 5 years down the track and if we think we are a chance at LDU types you probably want a bit more of a balanced recruiting policy.

 

[saintmike65]

He made more errors than I remembered. Travaglia looks actually like the excitement factor along side him. They'd be a good pairing. Lindsay is quite vanilla. Travaglia a bit more flashy.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Travaglia & Tauru become stars!

 

[saintmike65]

Moraes is a pretty good kick overall but not sure he's a pure mid.

More of a high half forward type

 

[stavro#4]

I think you want to think 5 years down the track and if we think we are a chance at LDU types you probably want a bit more of a balanced recruiting policy.

We shouldn’t be drafting on what if scenarios.

You take BPA and work out what your list needs from there.

 

[beside the seaside]

The 3 highest rated prospects likely at our picks at this stage

• Smillie
• Langford
• Reid

Have all shown that they can play forward. They will all get that opportunity for the next few years.

What’s probably important is that it’s unlikely P7 or P8 will get as many games in year 1 as Pou and Wilson. Our development is further along and our list is much stronger.

So getting traditional Mids isn’t going to be an issue as they will be able to develop

I think you've made the connection before but there's a bit of Side bottom about Reid. Just looking at his stats, Side bottom kicked 25 goals in his first season, assuming that was off half forward. Would see a similar role for Reid.

Smillie would probably start out as a half forward too but perhaps more a bigger Owens type?

 

[saintmike65]

Ideally Smillie/Langford, Steele, Mcrae, Pou and Hugo. Not enough??

I’m also hoping Max Hall comes on with a full preseason & Windhager continues to develop

 

[HeavenlySources]

Can someone tell me who is the ‘best kick in the draft’ this year?


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[TheJackal]

Langford ran a slow 20 metre sprint at the combine, Smillie was quicker.
Speaking of the sprint, Lennox Hoffman ran a super quick 2.96 seconds at the state combine!

Been thinking a lot about this. Pou ran a quick 20m at the combine, but many complained this year about how he was slow. Pou showed in the latter part of the year that if he was hitting the contest at the right time he was dynamic. At the beginning of the year he looked slow and flat footed.

So I am of the belief that footy nous around the contest is so much more important than a few hundredths of a second in a controlled setting.