Oppo Camp 2024 Finals Discussion (other games)

[burger09]

All Sydney's weaknesses were exposed by a very good team in red hot form.

Their tall forward are C graders
Their tall defenders are C graders (not Blakey)
Their small defenders are worse.
Their gun mids are one way.

All these areas are glossed over when you dominate in the midfield.

Brisbane were peaking and a handful of kids really took them to another level this season. Ashcroft, Lohman, Wilmot, Fletcher and Morris were the difference from last year.

 

[burger09]

and Dane Rampe

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Dane Rampe

Age

34

Ht

187cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

2.5

4star

MG

358.8

5star

D

14.1

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

5.1

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

284.5

4star

D

10.6

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.4

4star

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I couldn't have been more unimpressed with his media work this past week.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

All Sydney's weaknesses were exposed by a very good team in red hot form.

Their tall forward are C graders
Their tall defenders are C graders (not Blakey)
Their small defenders are worse.
Their gun mids are one way.

All these areas are glossed over when you dominate in the midfield.

Brisbane were peaking and a handful of kids really took them to another level this season. Ashcroft, Lohman, Wilmot, Fletcher and Morris were the difference from last year.

I agree with all this - but how were Sydney able to sit on top of the ladder all year with such glaring weaknesses

 

[mustang]

I don’t get the comparison. We have the mosquito fleet and Sydney have Papley! Plus Lewis when fit, Dear in his early stages and hopefully Weddle moving forward next year have loads more natural talent than those 3 land posts playing for Sydney.

I mean more in the doesn't kick a lot of goals, and Lewis is never fit so we can't include him, we need another tall to go with Dear, if Weddle is to move forward, Brisbanes forward line looks very much like our 3peat in scoring power.

 

[burger09]

I agree with all this - but how were Sydney able to sit on top of the ladder all year with such glaring weaknesses

I think it took a very good team to expose them.
Their mids are very good. They are well drilled and Heeney was on another level.

They flew out of the blocks and wet sailed from there.

It can be a fine line.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

I think it took a very good team to expose them.
Their mids are very good. They are well drilled and Heeney was on another level.

They flew out of the blocks and wet sailed from there.

It can be a fine line.

Yeh I agree. They cruised through the finals - so despite shortcomings they're definitely a very good team.

But Lions just demolished them. It was quite stunning to watch after quarter time - especially with Brisbane missing their first choice ruckman. I think the dropoff for sydney's midfield after Warner and Heeney (not counting Gulden cos he's a winger) is really steep. And Brisbane batted much deeper and shut those guys down well.

Horse seemed to play Warner off a forward flank for a lot of the game which I thought was a bit weird

 

[Arc1]

Interesting that the mic was turned on for the child and Dunkley. I'm not being cynical, am I?

I'm pretty sure they've done that exact skit before, too. Yuck.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

They get Ashcroft Jnr next year and get Coleman back from the ACL. They’ll only get better.

Then Cooper Hodge a year after and the unnamed academy guns that will inevitably pop up. The rich are getting richer

 

[Argy]

Their mindset certainly wasn't on the same level as the Lions .
It was a bit similar to 2014 .
At 1/4 time the scoreboard is close but the eye tells you that one team is just a lot harder, more composed and willing to do more to win for the team .

2nd quarter the the gates open and by half time we are effectively game over .

They didn't think it would be easy but it looked like they thought they could just keep their 'form' rolling along to win .

The parallels with the 2014 GF are plenty. Both then and this year the Swans had an easy prelim and their opponents had a tough one. They were soft when it mattered.

 

[Arc1]

good on him tbh

Yeah I was pleased they lost but imagine being in that position and having to do interviews.

 

[hfc70]

Swans last appearance at the G was Rnd 7 against us.
Lions only last week.
There’s a lot to be said about that

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

Brisbane have turned the corner. They have finally figured it out. They only figured it out last week I reckon. Now they look and remind me of the 01-03 days.

That said, we'd still have smashed them yesterday.

 

[Billyc]

I think it took a very good team to expose them.
Their mids are very good. They are well drilled and Heeney was on another level.

They flew out of the blocks and wet sailed from there.

It can be a fine line.

They were thumped in the tough stuff. Dominated in contested footy and clearances and their tackling was poor. It was a lamentable grand final performance.

I thought Neale was bog. Just dominated from the source all day. Very similar to what Mitchell did to them in 2014. Longmire doesn’t learn

 

[peetoo]

All Sydney's weaknesses were exposed by a very good team in red hot form.

Their tall forward are C graders
Their tall defenders are C graders (not Blakey)
Their small defenders are worse.
Their gun mids are one way.

All these areas are glossed over when you dominate in the midfield.

Brisbane were peaking and a handful of kids really took them to another level this season. Ashcroft, Lohman, Wilmot, Fletcher and Morris were the difference from last year.

I tipped that

 

[peetoo]

They were thumped in the tough stuff. Dominated in contested footy and clearances and their tackling was poor. It was a lamentable grand final performance.

I thought Neale was bog. Just dominated from the source all day. Very similar to what Mitchell did to them in 2014. Longmire doesn’t learn

Possibly the worst minor premier ever

 

[burger09]

If you were told pre game Heeney would have no impact, I think most would have tipped Brisbane comfortably

 

[peetoo]

Swans last appearance at the G was Rnd 7 against us.
Lions only last week.
There’s a lot to be said about that

All the vicbias calls seem to want less travel therefore less MCG. That will be the next whine

 

[peetoo]

I mean more in the doesn't kick a lot of goals, and Lewis is never fit so we can't include him, we need another tall to go with Dear, if Weddle is to move forward, Brisbanes forward line looks very much like our 3peat in scoring power.

Weddle Sicily Newk to rotate through mids, wings and fwd ouch!

 

[peetoo]

An unlikely bulky hero! Still my favourite ever grand final memory!

Looking like a horse trainer there

Or should I say horse schooler

 

[peetoo]

Big Os attitude in his comments about his replacement

If that is the vibe across the playing group, watch out. Threepeat type culture

 

[LRobbo]

Sydney are the most over hyped and overrated team of the last decade.
Some seriously ordinary players on that list
Florent- what does he do? Gets it 20 times but has zero impsct
Papley- downhill skiing over celebrator who rarely is up and when the Swans aren’t.
Outside of Blakey they have some of the worst key position players in the comp forward and back.

The much talked about ‘bloods culture’ is a myth, the media are so soft on them for repeated soft efforts it’s sickening.

I’m sure the AFL will hand them another star key forward soon, can’t have the competition darling not winning flags

 

[dixyland]

Kingy has to be one of the worst predictors ever. Rarely ever gets anything right and yet still is so arrogant in regards to his opinions. Laughs at others who disagree with him only to make himself look an absolute fool.

Well done Fagan


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I hate this bullshit attitude.

All professional pundits get asked for predictions and nobody ever gets it 100%.

Kingy, like all others, will give an opinion based on whatever criteria he thinks is important in that individual match up.

Kingy the player was an absolute ****knuckle, but he is very good as a pundit. The way he interprets and articulates information is respected and copied throughout the industry.

Who cares that he gets some of the predictions wrong, or that we disagree with them.

 

[peetoo]

I hate this bullshit attitude.

All professional pundits get asked for predictions and nobody ever gets it 100%.

Kingy, like all others, will give an opinion based on whatever criteria he thinks is important in that individual match up.

Kingy the player was an absolute ****knuckle, but he is very good as a pundit. The way he interprets and articulates information is respected and copied throughout the industry.

Who cares that he gets some of the predictions wrong, or that we disagree with them.

Kingy the player was Forrest Gump in the NFL

Run Kingy run

 

[Yardie]

Then Cooper Hodge a year after and the unnamed academy guns that will inevitably pop up. The rich are getting richer

If Cooper chooses Brisbane that is 100% on Clarkson.

 

[peetoo]

We'd win by 60 today. Either side

Good pick