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[Blueyourmyboy!!]

Not really …they just need some luck …they should be right

They're done. Been list cloggers for to long...goneski.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Yeah, fair shout. You need a good squad of 30 to win a flag imo - 30 players genuinely capable at AFL level, with 31-44 players group as break-glass depth.

I think the reason our 25-44 bracket are average is because it seems our VFL program is still rubbish - which is just unacceptable considering how rubbish it's been for so long. It's the VFL team for Carlton! That's a dead set dream for kids who have missed the draft, local guns wanting a VFL spot, or delisted AFL players wanting to remain in the system - how we can't get this program right is a disgrace - it's in the heart of Melbourne at a famous club & ground ffs.

Anyway, requests for off-season:

1. KPD - nothing on the market though which is concerning. Weitering needs help & McGovern is only good for intercepting.

2. Midfielder - a nimble type, not necessarily speedy but able to weave through traffic with fast feet.

3. Some goddamn promising kids and solid role players who can get us VFL results and push the standards of our AFL squad.

I'm open to trading, too. Nobody is off the table except Cripps, Curnow, McKay, Weitering & De Koning.

Saad, Walsh, Acres, Elijah all on the table? God talk about an overreaction.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Over the past 3 years we have drafted

Moir
Wilson
Hollands
Cowan
Binns
Lemmey
Motlop
Akuei

None are locks but there is some possibles. None are exactly stand outs

O'Keefe, Boyd, Cincotta as SSP/Mid season picks

We have brought in Cerra Hewett Elijah Acres which IMO have been good deals

The other issue is there isn't much KPP's in that group

The Moir one is just beyond baffling to me. A slow off the mark 3rd tall option who has questionable commitment to the contest. Didn't make sense to me then and still doesn't from what he's shown.

Wilson will end up a very good player, fairly convinced on that selection from what he's shown in his 1st year. Needs to add another 5-6 kgs in the off season.

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Saad, Walsh, Acres, Elijah all on the table? God talk about an overreaction.

Forgot Walsh & Elijah.

If someone offered a gun KPD in their prime for Saad, I'd absolutely consider it. Love him, but we need a KPD more than we need a small/running defender right now. Nobody would offer anything of value for Acres anyway - he's worth way more to us than he would be any other club.

My point I was making is contending clubs make big calls - Richmond offloaded Deledio, Collingwood did with Grundy (even though is was a cap squeeze), I'm not saying we have to as well but if an opportunity arises..

 

[Soapy V]

The Moir one is just beyond baffling to me. A slow off the mark 3rd tall option who has questionable commitment to the contest. Didn't make sense to me then and still doesn't from what he's shown.

Wilson will end up a very good player, fairly convinced on that selection from what he's shown in his 1st year. Needs to add another 5-6 kgs in the off season.

I honestly don't know. He is hard to peg. I have seen him do some incredible things but then goes missing

My worry was I asked a top player manager about him after the draft. Said Carlton was the only club that really rated him top 30ish. Many though he was speculative and a maybe a good rookie type. Not sure he had AFL qualities

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Voss loves clearances... end of season, it will be time to do some off field.

Cunners, Marchbank, Martin, S.Durdin, Young, Akuei, Mirkov - thanks very much, but time to be shown the door either through trades or delist.

After that, our KPD deficiency MUST be addressed properly... not through some stupid notion that we can find a kpf on the scrap heap and turn them into a solid kpd...

I would like to see us at the very least attempt to bring in a very solid kpd via trade, even if it costs us our 1st pick this year. We need one with experience that can help Weitering out.

 

[Opium]

I would put Cerra and pittonet on the table. See what offers we get. With Ben camporeale incoming Cerra is expendable

 

[Accidental genius]

Weitering and our backline desperately need a reliable kpd.

Its a massive weak point of our list.

We are trying to play others (on the cheap) there but it isnt working.

We need to bring one in on reasonable $ if that is what it takes.

Stop the pussy footing around and do it.

 

[Accidental genius]

I would put Cerra and pittonet on the table. See what offers we get. With Ben camporeale incoming Cerra is expendable

ok but are campo boys any good?

I know they havent even started yet but i really havent heard anything too good about them. One seems ok from what is mentioned on here.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I would put Cerra and pittonet on the table. See what offers we get. With Ben camporeale incoming Cerra is expendable

Cerra is about 3000x better of a kick than Ben Campo. Not going to happen when he's the only mid we have capable of retaining the ball by foot

 

[Soapy V]

I would put Cerra and pittonet on the table. See what offers we get. With Ben camporeale incoming Cerra is expendable

Cerra is star. We quickly forget. A full pre season and playing the middle and we will see it again. You don't trade gun mids in their prime

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

ok but are campo boys any good?

I know they havent even started yet but i really havent heard anything too good about them. One seems ok from what is mentioned on here.

They are both fine players but neither are going to shift the needle for us towards a premiership. They are for the future

 

[Soapy V]

ok but are campo boys any good?

I know they havent even started yet but i really havent heard anything too good about them. One seems ok from what is mentioned on here.

We won't know until they play. Have talent but aren't locks or Top 10 types

 

[Accidental genius]

Cerra is star. We quickly forget. A full pre season and playing the middle and we will see it again. You don't trade gun mids in their prime

I understand but I dont think we should be calling cerra a star - he is a good B grade imo.

 

[Soapy V]

I would put Cerra and pittonet on the table. See what offers we get. With Ben camporeale incoming Cerra is expendable

I wanted us to get Goldstein end of last year and trade Pittonet. I rate O'keefe but he is young and TDK is a genuine star

Jack will be back. We just need a quality back up

Whatever happens we need to be aggressive the off season

 

[Lace_Out]

I would put Cerra and pittonet on the table. See what offers we get. With Ben camporeale incoming Cerra is expendable

I would only move cerra on for an explosive mid where both teams win etc.

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[BlueJet]

I would put Cerra and pittonet on the table. See what offers we get. With Ben camporeale incoming Cerra is expendable

Playing devils advocate, if we were looking to maximise our return, it wouldn't be either of those guys on the table, it'd be TDK.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Forgot Walsh & Elijah.

If someone offered a gun KPD in their prime for Saad, I'd absolutely consider it. Love him, but we need a KPD more than we need a small/running defender right now. Nobody would offer anything of value for Acres anyway - he's worth way more to us than he would be any other club.

My point I was making is contending clubs make big calls - Richmond offloaded Deledio, Collingwood did with Grundy (even though is was a cap squeeze), I'm not saying we have to as well but if an opportunity arises..

The names to look at are Motlop, Owies, Kemp, Kennedy and Carroll in terms of non essential players that still have some value imo.

Acres, Saad, Gov etc are invaluable for us because they provide something none of our other players can and we'd get little in return comparatively to what they provide for us.

The players listed above are all essentially depth pieces when we are at full health but none provide a point of difference to what we've got.

 

[macky99]

I would put Cerra and pittonet on the table. See what offers we get. With Ben camporeale incoming Cerra is expendable

Ben Campo is not going to address our midfield issues, he is another big bodied mid with a suspect kicking style.
Cerra will fine form if the coach plays him back in the mid field, crazy suggestion.

 

[Red_man2008]

What’s our thoughts on KPD defenders available.

Jake kolojashnij
Adam Tomlinson

20

Adam Tomlinson

Age

31

Ht

194cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.5

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.3

4star

D

15.5

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.8

3star

M

4.8

4star

T

2.3

3star

D

15.5

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.3

4star

Tom mcdonald

25

Tom Mcdonald

Age

32

Ht

195cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.7

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

261.8

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

0.6

1star

MG

135.6

2star

D

13.8

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

Josh schache

19

Josh Schache

Age

27

Ht

199cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.3

3star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.5

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.2

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

0.8

4star

Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

27

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

Ben Miller

 

[macky99]

Playing devils advocate, if we were looking to maximise our return, it wouldn't be either of those guys on the table, it'd be TDK.

Oh God some of the suggestions here are beyond a joke, TDK is by far our best ruckman.

 

[Soapy V]

What’s our thoughts on KPD defenders available.

Jake kolojashnij
Adam Tomlinson
Tom mcdonald
Josh schache
Darragh Joyce
Ben Miller

If we believe we are in the window I would be going after Barass hard as my priority

 

[Red_man2008]

If we believe we are in the window I would be going after Barass hard as my priority

Can we afford him. It’ll cost a 1st+ more.

 

[Accidental genius]

Realistically if we want a good kpd we are going to have to give a couple of good player away to get the draft capital

I think the untouchables are:
Cripps, Weits, H, Charlie and TDK.

With the new incumbent our spine become rigid stiff.

 

[JJBagger]

What’s our thoughts on KPD defenders available.

Jake kolojashnij
Adam Tomlinson
Tom mcdonald
Josh schache
Darragh Joyce
Ben Miller

Kolodjasnij - won’t leave. Will finish top 5 in the cats BnF this year. Best of the lot though
Tomlinson - too old and unreliable
McDonald - too old and unreliable
Schache - don’t make me laugh
Joyce - yet to be proven to be reliable
Miller - potentially most realistic of the lot. Solid one-on-one. Reckon he stays though