List Mgmt. 2024 List Management 📃

[Stamos]

Mowies needs to be signed up asap - he loves the club and we love him.

The ASAP bit might limit the moves we can make in trade week and put more pressure on any trades we would like to make?

Assuming we keep our same list structure (which is a reasonable assumption until we hear otherwise), if we sign Owies now, we have to move at a minimum 3 of Carroll, Cunners, Marchbank and Martin (or a contracted player), and that's just to get the 2 Campos and elevate Boyd.
If we want a 3rd ND pick, or to bring in someone else, we need to move a 4th player.

As much as we might want to re-sign Owies, some flexibility is important.

 

[Manhattanite]

Dusty is cooked, if Gold Coast were to take him on it wouldn’t be on massive $$$…

I’d think he’ll more likely retire…

The reports are he’s more keen to go to them than they are keen on him - and that he is willing to play at close to base salary

So it probably will happen but that won’t help us pry any players away from their list




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[Stamos]

Gettable:
Bot - clubs are interested, specifically West Coast
Owies - red hot interest
Martin - Freo interested

 

[AndyLucimitis]

Dusty is cooked, if Gold Coast were to take him on it wouldn’t be on massive $$$…

I’d think he’ll more likely retire…

Agree - cannot see the point for Gold Coast or Dusty to be honest - I guess a pay check of $300K a year is not chump change.

 

[tragic]

The ASAP bit might limit the moves we can make in trade week and put more pressure on any trades we would like to make?

Assuming we keep our same list structure (which is a reasonable assumption until we hear otherwise), if we sign Owies now, we have to move at a minimum 3 of Carroll, Cunners, Marchbank and Martin (or a contracted player), and that's just to get the 2 Campos and elevate Boyd.
If we want a 3rd ND pick, or to bring in someone else, we need to move a 4th player.

As much as we might want to re-sign Owies, some flexibility is important.

Im more interested/confused why we resigned Corey Durdin based on the above.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Im more interested/confused why we resigned Corey Durdin based on the above.

Probably for the same reason most people wanted Fog delisted a few years back.

 

[tragic]

Probably for the same reason most people wanted Fog delisted a few years back.

So you rate durdin above Owies? It could come down to one or the other

 

[Sam The Doc]

Im more interested/confused why we resigned Corey Durdin based on the above.

He will come good ..

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

The fact Owies is 'hot property' around the comp is a clear indication that we're finally that team.

 

[Jatz]

The fact Owies is 'hot property' around the comp is a clear indication that we're finally that team.

Also shows there's a lack of quality small forwards in the comp at the moment I think.

 

[Stamos]

So you rate durdin above Owies? It could come down to one or the other

For this year, no.
But he's more talented, quicker, and 5 years younger.

It's really hard to tell what happens from here.
Most predictable:
Bot traded
Cunners let go

and then
We trade one of Martin or Owies, very unlikely both, but who knows?
Maybe Marchy gets let go, or cut to go to the rookie list, but he likely gets poached if we try this.

There could be a contracted player that we trade out, but it's hard to see who.

Last week Cal said we would be busy, but can anyone think of a realistic trade or FA target?

 

[BigFrizz36]

They have enough to work with they shouldn’t be complete garbage, but they have their answer now of whether they have a list capable of contending.

Their list isn’t set in stone, they do have young and more established talent, but they didn’t get as much out of their high picks as they needed to in order to be a top side now.

It feels nice to be able to say that about another club.

 

[DEliades]

If we trade Owies or low ball him, I’ll spew.

 

[Arr0w]

Probably for the same reason most people wanted Fog delisted a few years back.

I'll put my hand up, I thought he was gone, but love how hard he has worked to embrace his role

Durdin has time to rehab, perhaps play a role this year and prepare properly for next year

 

[Arr0w]

The fact Owies is 'hot property' around the comp is a clear indication that we're finally that team.

Our small forwards aren't too bad afterall

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Our small forwards aren't too bad afterall

Im 50/50 on that, Williams and Hollands are hard carrying as alternative options up forward imo which has always been my point about our small forwards.

Owies, Durdin, Fantasia etc haven't demanded a direct opponent to drag attention away from Charlie and H which has left them to be double and triple teamed over the last few years. Williams and Hollands drawing opposition attention has opened up our whole forward line for the others to get involved in the game as more goal sneak types.

Still believe Martin and Cottrell push Fantasia and Owies out of the b22 when healthy but it's a good problem to have for the first time in years.

 

[Lukeblueboy]

I wasn’t to fussed initially if we let owies go, but now I think we should be keeping him imo

 

[Stamos]

Im 50/50 on that, Williams and Hollands are hard carrying as alternative options up forward imo which has always been my point about our small forwards.

Owies, Durdin, Fantasia etc haven't demanded a direct opponent to drag attention away from Charlie and H which has left them to be double and triple teamed over the last few years. Williams and Hollands drawing opposition attention has opened up our whole forward line for the others to get involved in the game as more goal sneak types.

Still believe Martin and Cottrell push Fantasia and Owies out of the b22 when healthy but it's a good problem to have for the first time in years.

Yeah, I don’t think it’s coincidence that Martin’s 1 game back this year happened to be what I think is the best game of Owies’ career.

But that also seems to have unlocked something (confidence? insight?) and I reckon he’s been in career best form since then, with new aspects to his game (true small forward aspects: better pressure, tackles, crumbing). He looks a much improved player to the one who got dropped for the prelim last year.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Yeah, I don’t think it’s coincidence that Martin’s 1 game back this year happened to be what I think is the best game of Owies’ career.

But that also seems to have unlocked something (confidence? insight?) and I reckon he’s been in career best form since then, with new aspects to his game (true small forward aspects: better pressure, tackles, crumbing). He looks a much improved player to the one who got dropped for the prelim last year.

Agree on all fronts. Right now Owies is playing the exact role we need him to and I think with Martin and Motlop close to 'full health' all our smalls would be trying their guts out to remain in good form leading into finals.

 

[Arr0w]

Im 50/50 on that, Williams and Hollands are hard carrying as alternative options up forward imo which has always been my point about our small forwards.

No doubt we need to think about life without Williams, but we have a couple of years to plan

Owies, Durdin, Fantasia etc haven't demanded a direct opponent to drag attention away from Charlie and H which has left them to be double and triple teamed over the last few years.

Let's drag it back to now and moving forward. Both Harry & Charlie cop plenty of attention, but building continuity in a side and structure, has allowed our other forwards to hit the scoreboard because sides aren't respecting them

Williams and Hollands drawing opposition attention has opened up our whole forward line for the others to get involved in the game as more goal sneak types.

It's a great position to be in, players embracing team structures rather than individual output

Still believe Martin and Cottrell push Fantasia and Owies out of the b22 when healthy but it's a good problem to have for the first time in years.

It's a great problem to have

I'd certainly like a more dynamic 3rd/medium tall forward, but maybe Moir is that guy in time. If not, easier to acquire one than pure mids or KPPs

 

[Stamos]

Also Jack to come back next year, hopefully able to get back to his last game BOG form

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

So you rate durdin above Owies? It could come down to one or the other

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how we rate one over the other, it's how the club rates them.

Durdin was playing some great footy back in 2022 before injury and loss of form, so I personally rate him. Owies has been playing career best footy over the past month or so.

The reality is that it all just comes down to list management by those in the know.

 

[Benaly28]

Owies bleeds blue can’t see him leaving I’d say the wait is to see how Motlop/Martin come back.

I’d be keeping Owies on the form he has showed.

As regards to Marchbank/Cuners can see both or at least one in a saints jumper next year.


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[Blue__Balls]

The reports are he’s more keen to go to them than they are keen on him - and that he is willing to play at close to base salary

So it probably will happen but that won’t help us pry any players away from their list




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Might not squeeze anyone out on salary, but I could certainly see a few fringe-ish types (like Eli was) worrying that the club is shunting them down the selection board to accommodate an aging player, past his best, with questionable hunger and a failing body that has media reports suggesting he could have some kind of "home games only" arrangement with his best bud the coach.

Some might see a chance to learn from an absolute gun for a couple of years, but others may worry that their opportunity will be further restricted and decide to look for new homes where a clear role is on the table.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Owies would look a right twit if he left after giving Tuohy the jumper-pull celebration the other week. Only way it happens is if we screw him over....ironically like we did to Tuohy.