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It's actually not that hard these days. The issue is the quality and being good at our selection.
We now have Drafts, FA, Trades, SSP, Rookies, Academies, Overseas etc
We will most likely now be able to trade picks up to two years
The way things are going the Campo kids won't cost a lot. A heap on bundle up late picks. We will most likely keep our forst round pick. We will also chase a FA or two and as last few years have shown we can tarde late picks for quality like we did with Hollands and Acres
So many scenarios to play out and many options. Making 8-10 changes is very possible
IMO we need 5-6 readymade players supported by 3-4 kids
They key (which isn't discussed much) is how quickly Wilson, Binns, Ollie, Lemmey, O'Keefe, Lord, Moir can develop and step up. That will make as big a difference to us as anything else PLUS the return of Docherty & Jack
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Player development is the most crucial aspect for us moving forward as it will help us do more with less.
I hope we bring in something like
Campo twins
First round pick
1-2 other picks or rookies
1 x FA
1 x Trade
1 x DFA
1-2 SSPs
Focus on run and Leg Speed and at least one KPD
Early call but I expect Docherty & Jack to be back and names like Cowan Ollie Wilson O'Keefe to be genuine Best 25 players and big improvement in Motlop Cincotta Elijah Boyd Kemp.
I have NO hesitation in delisting Marchbank Cuningham Martin Young Akuei S.Durdin Mirkov M.Carroll Fantasia. I would trade J.Carroll & C.Durdin if any interest
Campo twins
First round pick
1-2 other picks or rookies
1 x FA
1 x Trade
1 x DFA
1-2 SSPs
Focus on run and Leg Speed and at least one KPD
Early call but I expect Docherty & Jack to be back and names like Cowan Ollie Wilson O'Keefe to be genuine Best 25 players and big improvement in Motlop Cincotta Elijah Boyd Kemp.
I have NO hesitation in delisting Marchbank Cuningham Martin Young Akuei S.Durdin Mirkov M.Carroll Fantasia. I would trade J.Carroll & C.Durdin if any interest
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I like it, let’s assume we can continue with Boyd as a rookie and we take the 3 kids at the draft, hopefully a KPD.
Your scenario has us delisting/trading three tall defenders, I think this is unrealistic but if this happens, they need replacing, so add Kolo from your defenders list.
A rookie spot would then need to go to the best key back from across the state leagues.
Don’t offer Martin a contract, unless it’s min wage and one year.
If we can only have one Irish cat B, then so be it, don’t put a player on the rookie list who is miles off the pace, list spots are too tight.
Garcia would be nice
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I’d also like our club to be a bit better at cutting our losses early, rather than holding on to players who won’t make the cut.
Not saying any of these won’t, but I’m very sceptical of Binns, Lemmey or Moir, if the coach and LM team think they’ve seen enough, trade them and move on, we hold on to players for far too long.
I'm not convinced on them either but we have many others to go first
We desperately need another back up tall forward and key defender.
Not in love with any of those names but understand we may need to look for a moneyball approach.
Collingwood won a premiership after bringing in Frampton. He's a very average player, but just a big body who can fill a few spots and hopefully just do a job, freeing up other players. That's what we can get.
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We can put Duffy on Cat-B, there's no limit on Irish Cat-Bs.
Free Agency and Non Contract Lists
Adelaide
Unrestricted free agentsJames Borlase, William Hamill, Elliott Himmelberg, Ben Keays, Brodie Smith, Taylor Walker
Uncontracted
Luke Beecken, Sam Berry, Hugh Bond, James Borlase, Chris Burgess, Brayden Cook, Darcy Craven, Lachlan Gollant, Ned McHenry, Patrick Parnell, Lachlan Sholl
Brisbane
Unrestricted free agentsDarragh Joyce, Ryan Lester, Jarryd Lyons, Dayne Zorko
Uncontracted
Noah Answerth, Shadeau Brain, Kalin Lane, James Madden, Lincoln McCarthy, Carter Michael, Jaxon Prior,
Carlton
Unrestricted free agentsSam Durdin, David Cuningham, Caleb Marchbank
Uncontracted
Domanic Akuei, Jordan Boyd, Jack Carroll, Matt Carroll, Corey Durdin, Elijah Hollands, Jack Martin, Alex Mirkov, Rob Monahan, Hudson O'Keeffe, Matthew Owies
Collingwood
Unrestricted free agentsJack Bytel, Joshua Eyre, Jeremy Howe, Will Hoskin-Elliott, Oleg Markov, Scott Pendlebury, Steele Sidebottom
Uncontracted
Aiden Begg, Josh Carmichael, Charlie Dean, Nathan Kreuger, Ned Long, Cooper Lord, Reef McInnes, Joe Richards, Oscar Steene, Lachie Sullivan
Essendon
Unrestricted free agentsTodd Goldstein, Dyson Heppell, Jake Kelly
Uncontracted
Kaine Baldwin, Jye Caldwell, Nik Cox, Jayden Davey, Sam Durham, Saad El-Hawli, Matt Guelfi, Lewis Hayes, Nick Hind, Jaiden Hunter, Harrison Jones, Jye Menzie, Will Setterfield, Dylan Shiel, Jake Stringer, Tex Wanganeen, Sam Weideman
Fremantle
Unrestricted free agentsBailey Banfield, Ethan Hughes, Matt Taberner, Patrick Voss, Corey Wagner
Uncontracted
Josh Corbett, Tom Emmett, Odin Jones, Max Knobel, Sebit Kuek, Nathan O'Driscoll, Liam Reidy, Ethan Stanley, Sam Sturt, Conrad Williams
Geelong
Unrestricted free agentsMitch Duncan, Tom Hawkins, Jack Henry, Jake Kolodjashnij, Mark O'Connor, Brandan Parfitt, Gary Rohan, Rhys Stanley, Zach Tuohy
Restricted free agents
Patrick Dangerfield
Uncontracted
Jed Bews, Jack Bowes, Ted Clohesy, Phoenix Foster, Joe Furphy, Mitch Hardie, Oliver Henry, Emerson Jeka, James Willis
Gold Coast
Unrestricted free agentsLevi Casboult, Sam Day, Brandon Ellis, Nick Holman, Sean Lemmens, Jack Mahony, Darcy McPherson, Alex Sexton
Restricted free agents
Ben Ainsworth
Uncontracted
Sandy Brock, Sam Clohesy, Alex Davies, Brandon Ellis, Oskar Faulkhead, Lloyd Johnston, Ben King, Hewego Oea, Will Rowlands, James Tsitas, Bodhi Uwland
GWS
Unrestricted free agentsIsaac Cumming, Nick Haynes, Lachlan Keeffe, Adam Kennedy, Harry Perryman, Callan Ward
Uncontracted
Ryan Angwin, Josh Fahey, Cooper Hamilton, Jesse Hogan, Nick Madden, James Peatling, Braydon Preuss, Conor Stone
Hawthorn
Unrestricted free agentsLuke Breust, Jack Gunston, Harry Morrison, Conor Nash, Cooper Stephens, Chad Wingard
Restricted free agents
Blake Hardwick
Uncontracted
Joshua Bennetts, Sam Frost, Denver Grainger-Barras, Changkuoth Jiath, Lloyd Meek, Jack O'Sullivan, Ethan Phillips, Jack Scrimshaw, Clay Tucker
Melbourne
Unrestricted free agentsMarty Hore, Lachie Hunter, Tom McDonalad, Jake Melksham, Joel Smith, Adam Tomlinson
Uncontracted
Jed Adams, Ben Brown, Kynan Brown, Kyah Farris-White, Luker Kentfield, Ed Langdon, Bailey Laurie, Andy Moniz-Wakefield, Josh Schache, Oliver Sestan, Will Verrall
North Melbourne
Unrestricted free agentsHugh Greenwood, Toby Pink, Liam Shiels, Brynn Teakle
Restricted free agents
Cameron Zurhaar
Uncontracted
Jackson Archer, Blake Drury, Hamish Free, Robert Hansen, Cooper Harvey, Charlie Lazzaro, Finnbar Maley, Will Phillips, Tom Powell, Bailey Scott, Tyler Sellers
Port Adelaide
Unrestricted free agentsTravis Boak, Charlie Dixon, Francis Evans, Trent McKenzie, Quinton Narkle
Uncontracted
Jeremy Finlayson, Hugh Jackson, Lachlan Jones, Kyle Marshall, Tom McCallum, Thomas Scully, Ivan Soldo, Xavier Walsh*, Brandon Zerk-Thatcher
Richmond
Unrestricted free agentsNoah Cumberland, Jack Graham, Dylan Grimes, Dustin Martin, Kamdyn McIntosh, Sam Naismith, Dion Prestia
Uncontracted
Liam Baker, Jacob Blight, Seth Campbell, Mate Colina, Matt Coulthard, Thomson Dow, Campbell Gray, Steely Green, Mykelti Lefau, Marlion Pickett, Hugo Ralphsmith, Maurice Rioli, Jack Ross, Kaleb Smith, James Trezise
St Kilda
Unrestricted free agentsJosh Battle, Riley Bonner, Tom Campbell, Tim Membrey, Sebastian Ross, Liam Stocker, Jimmy Webster
Uncontracted
Matthew Allison, Dan Butler, Ryan Byrnes, Jack Hayes, Max Heath, Olli Hotton, Dougal Howard, Zak Jones, Isaac Keeler, Angus McLennan, Ben Paton, Cooper Sharman, James Van Es, Mason Wood
Sydney
Unrestricted free agentsHarry Cunningham
Uncontracted
Harry Arnold, Jack Buller, Aaron Francis, James Jordon, Tom Hanily, Jacob Konstanty, Jaiden Magor, Lachlan McAndrew, Caleb Mitchell, Cooper Vickery
West Coast
Unrestricted free agentsLiam Duggan, Andrew Gaff, Jamaine Jones, Josh Rotham, Zane Trew
Uncontracted
Jordyn Baker, Tyler Brockman, Coby Burgiel, Jai Culley, Harry Edwards, Loch Rawlinson*, Alex Witherden
Western Bulldogs
Unrestricted free agentsJason Johannisen, Lachlan McNeil
Restricted free agents
Tim English
Uncontracted
Dominic Bedendo, Charlie Clarke, Taylor Duryea, Riley Garcia, Alex Keath, Buku Khamis, Kelsey Rypstra, Bailey Smith, Rhylee West
You’d really have no hesitation in delisting a player who is contracted for 2 more years? And another who is contracted for another year?
I think we all need to be realistic.
For the point of discussion, let’s ignore Cat B.
We currently have 8 uncontracted players (5 senior, 3 rookie), and are oversubscribed by 1 player.
There are very few free agents left, and of those who are, they’d be very expensive, or not somebody you’d want to bring in to take a senior list spot. And to the best of my knowledge, we haven’t been linked to any of them.
We have to assume that we won’t be changing our list structure. I’d be pretty surprised if we brought more than 1 FA or traded player onto the senior list. Then Boyd, 2 Campos, probably 1 more ND pick.
This list isn’t up to date.
Just from us, Boyd, Elijah, Corey Durdin and HOK are contracted
I don't think it is worth taking more than 3 picks in the draft (assuming you haven't gained extra picks in the first 3 rounds). Invite 3 or 4 down to train over the summer and pick the best of them once you get a better look.
I wonder what Bolts thought after the first training session with Fin Odwyer. Was finally playing some decent VFL footy 6 years after being drafted. What late pick has that sort of time to develop.
I would look at adding McMahon to the list. Been good in the 2s and has 4 years development into him.
Id be disappointed if we delisted any of Binns, Lemmey or Moir at this very early stage of their career (barring any attitudinal issues)
They are kids in kids bodies which take time to develop. Im glad they are spending time in the twos - it wasnt that long ago our young players were getting belted because they had to be played in the seniors. Its a luxury to have strong enough senior list that these kids dont need to get thrown into the lions den until ready.
As pointed out by other posters, we have some perennially injured players that we just cant carry anymore. Even if the likes of cunners, martin or marchbank come back in for finals and make a difference (tbh I only see Martin doing that) the rest of the squad cant carry them, again, for another year.
Defensive depth is our biggest weakness and needs to be addressed, which I think it will be this year
They are kids in kids bodies which take time to develop. Im glad they are spending time in the twos - it wasnt that long ago our young players were getting belted because they had to be played in the seniors. Its a luxury to have strong enough senior list that these kids dont need to get thrown into the lions den until ready.
As pointed out by other posters, we have some perennially injured players that we just cant carry anymore. Even if the likes of cunners, martin or marchbank come back in for finals and make a difference (tbh I only see Martin doing that) the rest of the squad cant carry them, again, for another year.
Defensive depth is our biggest weakness and needs to be addressed, which I think it will be this year
We did it last year
We cut 1 player with 1 year left from the Rookie List. Not somebody with 2 years of a senior contract left, and not 2 players.
I could see us cutting and rookieing Fantasia to create an extra senior spot, but I’d be shocked if we cut him outright, and we certainly won’t be delisting Young. Especially with our lack of tall defender depth, because you’d have to assume that Marchy and Durdin are already going.
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Unless they’ve changed the rules, I’m not sure this is right.
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Would be disappointing . It is just hard to hold onto kids who aren't showing improvement. We lost a couple of list spots through covid and then we increased the number of players needed in a team to 23. Crazy it hasn't been returned to pre-covid levels as a list should be at least 2 complete teams. Unfortunately I can't see it happening given we need an extra 4o odd players for the Tassie team and they may get the GCS extended list allowance.
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Rules changed 3 or 4 years ago iirc.
Totally agree with all of that.
I'm glad big Nigel got his opportunity last weekend, but going down in the first quarter with yet another soft tissue injury when you've played 1 game in 2 years and out of contract puts you straight in the cross-hairs. Can't see either him or Marchy surviving the cut....a contracted Young becomes the back up option. Even if he requests a trade, we've got all all the aces to either negotiate a hard deal, or hang onto him.
And as much as some people are suggesting to re-rookie Martin for a year, if he got an offer for 2 years on a senior list with someone like a Freo, he'd be crazy not to accept it. Fantasia is the one I'd be looking to re-rookie if he agrees to it, or even possibly Cunners.
And contrary to popular opinion, if we got a decent trade offer for Owies, I'd do it in a heartbeat - especially if it gets us extra draft capital for a trade deal, or to potentially move up the draft board. Personally, I'd like to think we're in the market for a Konstanty or Stone to boost our forward stocks with younger talent. If Owies were to depart, it would potentially leave us with small/mid forward options of Motlop, Fogarty, Durdin, Fantasia, Martin, Moir, Williams, JSOS and Elijah....as well as a Konstanty/Stone.
TBH, those that aren't getting a game, or developing as hoped, whether they are rookies or older players is not really the point. The issue I have is players that have been on the list a long time and offering very little. I'd rather take a punt on 8 or 10 new young blokes who may develop in 12 months over someone who been on the list for years and offering nothing.
Jake Kolodjashnij is someone I have thought about as a realistic target in recent weeks, but I reckon Tassie will go hard to get him there, being a Tassie lad.
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Love the fact that On the Couch and CD Hoyne have mentioned we dont have a second key back. Or even a third key back which is a bit derogatory.
The important bit is Austin could not miss both pots at our club list. It's a grand canyon sized hole. Obviously I wished austin could have seen this eventuality 2 seasons ago. Potentially too busy clapping himself on the back for Young who is now probably paid as a first team 22 player rather than the periphery player that he actually is.
The important bit is Austin could not miss both pots at our club list. It's a grand canyon sized hole. Obviously I wished austin could have seen this eventuality 2 seasons ago. Potentially too busy clapping himself on the back for Young who is now probably paid as a first team 22 player rather than the periphery player that he actually is.
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