List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[martinson]

Quite the turnaround from when Charlie was all we had in the forward line and now we have 2 guys in there who on the prima facie evidence of the last 12 weeks are better than him.

 

[blueiris]

Choc said tonight he doesn't think the club will bring in a Joe replacement.

where is this from ?

 

[Dalions]

stringer has a few off field problems but has kicked over 19 goals in a good season and 40 goals twice in the last 3 seasons

Can he Ruck?

 

[blueiris]

Can he Ruck?

does he have too can Day?

 

[Nunez]

You’re meant to add words to your acrostic poem or is it a work in progress

Danster
Elixuh
Pals
Together
Here

 

[Nunez]

does he have too can Day?

Yes.

 

[Perrip]

where is this from ?

He's doing a meet and greet + Q&A in Perth today. Seen a few snippets of what he said from people who attended.

 

[Dalions]

does he have too can Day?

I think people assume that who ever we bring in will automatically be played.
My opinion is that who ever it may be, will be brought in to improve the depth of the Kpf/Ruck position, not to be the automatic selection and be the man. He will be another player on the list fighting for a position.
The long term replacement for Joe will be next year imo, not this.
Unless if one of the other boys like Smith steps up and shows some really good signs.

 

[McIvor]

It really is a rare decision by Joe to retire arguably at the peak of his career, only 30 years of age and could have had another 2-3 seasons at least in him.

There probably are other examples but has a player just pulling the pin while in peak form and uninjured happened before in the AFL?

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Cyril Rioli

 

[martinson]

I think people assume that who ever we bring in will automatically be played.
My opinion is that who ever it may be, will be brought in to improve the depth of the Kpf/Ruck position, not to be the automatic selection and be the man. He will be another player on the list fighting for a position.
The long term replacement for Joe will be next year imo, not this.
Unless if one of the other boys like Smith steps up and shows some really good signs.

Totally agree.

We may think we can get by with what we have especially if Smith develops quickly but just in case it doesn't work out there's a strong body there with experience who can fill a need.

 

[Sproj]

Cyril Rioli

Tom Boyd

 

[SL16]

Do people realise we can’t trade for anyone due to getting Levi (easy choice) and even if we were in a position too there are not exactly a huge pool to pick from. Getting Joey the way we did was a freak occurrence. Instead of suggesting Day is shit and that’s it - offer a solution, it’s not that easy. Morris is good but if to ask him
Too lead the pack is too much at this point. IF Day can stay fit I think people maybe a little surprised what he might offer.

Don't mind Day at all, but I'd rather we get Hipwood to pitch ruck and went Membrey personally.

 

[The Zork]

Membrey almost certain to stay in Melbourne. Young family and the bombers I reckon will land him.

 

[M Malice]

Cyril Rioli

Cyril would say he was forced out?

Tom Boyd

Psychological problems?

 

[captainrich]

Leon Davis

Leon Davis

Age

43

Ht

177cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.5

3star

K

10.2

4star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.0

1star

K

3.6

2star

HB

1.4

2star

M

1.2

2star

T

0.4

3star

G

0.4

3star

I think had some offield issues which led to neither Western club wanting him

 

[JasRulz63]

I can't think of any in the AFL off the top of my head, but Antonio Brown in the NFL had an all time classic. Vontae Davis also retired literally at half time of a game as well.

After a quick Google, apparently Leon Davis fits the bill? AA year at age 30, retired because he wanted to move back to Perth.

Cameron Ling comes to mind. I think he retired at 30yo after their flag.

James Clement is one that retired out of nowhere, but it was to look after his unwell wife.

 

[jfn]

Choc said tonight he doesn't think the club will bring in a Joe replacement.

There is too much speculation about a Joe replacement. I think what is needed is a role replacement. If the need for any given opposition is a pinch hit ruck/forward, then Day or Fort might be the option. If the team is grooming Henry Smith as a forward, then he gets an opportunity. If Lloyd increases his development, then he gets some match time. If Doedee is fit and firing, then that could release Lester who has forward experience. Or if Linc is fit, then they could play a small forward line in stature, although Linc, Cam and Kai all play taller.

The options are endless, and allow for players to be rested. Personally I think the forward line in 25 will be very changeable.

I like the idea of Day coming in as insurance, and that he may play about a dozen games. Form will obviously determine that. If he can compete, bring the ball to ground for the quicks, and a goal a game, he would be worth it.

With Lane being delisted, I think that indicates Fort will not get much time in the firsts.

 

[Sproj]

Cameron Ling comes to mind. I think he retired at 30yo after their flag.

James Clement is one that retired out of nowhere, but it was to look after his unwell wife.

Do other sports count? If so you’ve got Alex Carey, Karmichael Hunt and although he came back, Connor McKenna.

 

[Bucking Beads]

realistic how many goals do you expect a Sam Day scores if he doesn't breakdown like the Glass he's made of

I don’t expect him to be in our best 22 unless our other plans with the players we’ve got don’t work. Day is a mature body that can play the role we want. Sure he’s been injured a lot but from all reports he had a good year this year mostly at vfl level.

He’s not first choice. He’s only there for an emergency but who knows there’s enough talent there for him to be better than that.

 

[mpal6]

Membrey almost certain to stay in Melbourne. Young family and the bombers I reckon will land him.

Carlton should get him in my view. He may look surplus with McKay and Curnow, but he'll be that reliable third banana who'd bob up to kick goals, like when we had Bradshaw in 00s. Carlton don't have one and they looked quite good whenever Jack Martin managed to get on park and play that role for them.

 

[mpal6]

While I'm glad it's done n dusted already - I still don't understand why Richmond went with our pick trade so early. We had to go do multiple trades to get what Richmond had in terms of picks, so more than likely we would've sat around until Richmond had sorted all their trades.

I was nervous about having to compete for points with the likes of Essendon (Kako) and Gold Coast. Glad to get out of the way early so I can watch the chaos unfold with a popcorn.

 

[Clarkythelion]

Bud, I am a huge Morris fan but I am also capable of understanding a 20 year old having to be the #1 key forward in a team vying for a premiership is a ****ing stupid idea.

I give you Jonathon Brown, he made his debut and saw finals action in his first year as a Lion in 2000, Morris with 10kg's on his frame in the off season will be in his second season already with finals experience. I Believe.

 

[Nunez]

I give you Jonathon Brown, he made his debut and saw finals action in his first year as a Lion in 2000, Morris with 10kg's on his frame in the off season will be in his second season already with finals experience. I Believe.

Brown had Lynch and Bradshaw with him. I would be saying the exact same thing even if we had a second year Brown instead of Morris. Not ready to be the #1 guy.

 

[Nathan Barley]

While I'm glad it's done n dusted already - I still don't understand why Richmond went with our pick trade so early. We had to go do multiple trades to get what Richmond had in terms of picks, so more than likely we would've sat around until Richmond had sorted all their trades.

I was nervous about having to compete for points with the likes of Essendon (Kako) and Gold Coast. Glad to get out of the way early so I can watch the chaos unfold with a popcorn.

Richmond will have an extremely busy end to the trade period with the Rioli, Baker and Bolton trades

 

[briztoon]

While I'm glad it's done n dusted already - I still don't understand why Richmond went with our pick trade so early. We had to go do multiple trades to get what Richmond had in terms of picks, so more than likely we would've sat around until Richmond had sorted all their trades.

I was nervous about having to compete for points with the likes of Essendon (Kako) and Gold Coast. Glad to get out of the way early so I can watch the chaos unfold with a popcorn.

Gold Coast already have the points they need for Lombard.

There was talk from Twomey that other clubs were also after our pick 20, and while they didn’t have the picks/points that Richmond did, they could offer us future picks which we could then trade a for more picks in this draft.