List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets

[Ge3ks]

Here's a head scratcher. Bailey Banfield

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Bailey Banfield

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6.5

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2.9

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3.9

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0.3

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9.5

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5.3

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4.3

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2.0

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2.8

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0.5

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14.4

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is an unrestricted free agent this year. Are we likely to offer him a contract soon or will he walk for nothing?

I'd love Freo to keep him. His experience and effort are unquestionable, and his team vibe is good. Seems like a no-brainer to me. I just hope we don't low-ball him so much that another team turns his head with some big $.

Thoughts?

 

[thistimeforsure]

I wouldn't swap him now. But let's compare apples with apples.

I think any reasonable person would take the known quantity in Baker over the as yet unknown option at a pick in the 20s for season 2025.

If we had a choice between Cooper Simpson or Baker prior to preseason starting we would take Baker.

And we don't have to compare those two players, if we trade Collingwood's pick for Baker we get Baker and Simpson for Schultz and are a better squad for it.

We aren't talking about trading a first round pick as if it's a top ten selection. It will be a pick closer to the one we took Nathan Fyfe with.

It’s not apples and apples though bakers apple costs upwards of 800k and Simpson was a mid/late second round pick not a late 1st

Anyway I think we’ve been a good drafting team lately and I’d like to see us keep going unless something comes up that’s really good value


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[Taylor]

I wouldn't have Banfield as a super high priority signing for Fremantle at this stage.

Our out of contract players end of this season currently: Sturt, Hughes, Corbett, Taberner, Knobel, Jones, O'Driscoll, Wagner, Banfield

With these rookie listed players also out of contract: Voss, Reidy, Kuek, Williams, Stanley

I think Stanley, Knobel are ahead for development reasons in terms of priority.

 

[Taylor]

Anyway I think we’ve been a good drafting team lately and I’d like to see us keep going unless something comes up that’s really good value

Here are Fremantle's first round picks from the last little while:

2021 - #8 Amiss, #10 Erasmus
2020 - #14 Chapman
2019 - #7 Young, #8 Serong, #9 Henry
2018 - #17 Sturt
2017 - #2 Brayshaw, #5 Cerra
2016 - #8 Logue
2015
2014 - #13 Lachie Weller

There's five wins in that group out of eleven.

 

[pK75]

I wouldn't have Banfield as a super high priority signing for Fremantle at this stage.

Our out of contract players end of this season currently: Sturt, Hughes, Corbett, Taberner, Knobel, Jones, O'Driscoll, Wagner, Banfield

With these rookie listed players also out of contract: Voss, Reidy, Kuek, Williams, Stanley

I think Stanley, Knobel are ahead for development reasons in terms of priority.

You’d think this is the end of the road for Hughes, Tabs & Corbett from the main list and Kuek from the Rookie list, that’s 4 changes. Williams is still a CatB so unless we have another next gen player coming through we’d likely keep him.

 

[Lach72]

I wouldn't have Banfield as a super high priority signing for Fremantle at this stage.

Our out of contract players end of this season currently: Sturt, Hughes, Corbett, Taberner, Knobel, Jones, O'Driscoll, Wagner, Banfield

With these rookie listed players also out of contract: Voss, Reidy, Kuek, Williams, Stanley

I think Stanley, Knobel are ahead for development reasons in terms of priority.

Isn’t Brayshaw out of contract this year?

 

[doppo]

I'd expect Banners to get a 2 year deal at a slightly better wage than he's been on. I don't think we'd pay overs, and it'd be up to him if he wanted to explore his options. I feel like he's pretty loyal but he might be able to do better if he looks elsewhere.

NOD is a funny one out of that list. Nowhere near it at the moment.

Wouldn't surprise me to see Hughes bob up for an oppo team next year.

 

[Taylor]

Isn’t Brayshaw out of contract this year?

End of next year, but history suggests he will be the merry christmas extension end of this year.

 

[thistimeforsure]

Here are Fremantle's first round picks from the last little while:

2021 - #8 Amiss, #10 Erasmus
2020 - #14 Chapman
2019 - #7 Young, #8 Serong, #9 Henry
2018 - #17 Sturt
2017 - #2 Brayshaw, #5 Cerra
2016 - #8 Logue
2015
2014 - #13 Lachie Weller

There's five wins in that group out of eleven.

Really ?

I see 8 that are probably around about as valuable as Baker right now and some that are way higher

trades don’t always work out either


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[Taylor]

Really ?

I see 8 that are probably around about as valuable as Baker right now and some that are way higher

trades don’t always work out either


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Yes, five wins for Freo so far. Brayshaw, Young, Serong, Chapman, Amiss and two of those were with picks taken previously cycling through again after being traded out.

I think the percentage play in terms of maximising our peak output, when we have Fyfe, is to buy the players with the picks that are going to make us better now over taking a chance that players who are drafted might be higher quality in three years.

Trading a first round pick should be for a known quantity that immediately improves the side.

That's directly compared, right now, to wishful thinking that we will pick a star with a pick in the late teens who has great impact for us over 25 games in a season.

 

[gaskin]

Here's a head scratcher. Bailey Banfield is an unrestricted free agent this year. Are we likely to offer him a contract soon or will he walk for nothing?

I'd love Freo to keep him. His experience and effort are unquestionable, and his team vibe is good. Seems like a no-brainer to me. I just hope we don't low-ball him so much that another team turns his head with some big $.

Thoughts?

We will offer him but it depends on what other clubs offer him.

 

[Taylor]

Fortunately for Freo we have bulk quality picks to replace either with draft or trade for higher quality players at the time when our primary list is looking like losing quite a number.

We could have eight primary listed players move on through delisting, trade or free agency. That's assuming the likes of Knobel, Hughes, Banfield, Wagner, Sturt, Emmett explore options elsewhere.

 

[gungho]

Surely with the amount of guys going this year (throw in Hughes and Tabs as well), a contract will be offered to Banners. Realistically, what clubs would offer him more (in salary and years)? I don't reckon many would.

 

[Purple Suit]

Yes, five wins for Freo so far. Brayshaw, Young, Serong, Chapman, Amiss and two of those were with picks taken previously cycling through again after being traded out.

I think the percentage play in terms of maximising our peak output, when we have Fyfe, is to buy the players with the picks that are going to make us better now over taking a chance that players who are drafted might be higher quality in three years.

Trading a first round pick should be for a known quantity that immediately improves the side.

That's directly compared, right now, to wishful thinking that we will pick a star with a pick in the late teens who has great impact for us over 25 games in a season.

How are Weller / Cerra not wins if Brayshaw & Amiss are?

 

[Taylor]

How are Weller / Cerra not wins if Brayshaw & Amiss are?

Because they aren't playing for Fremantle anymore and in comparison to a player traded in on a five to seven year contract at Fremantle it doesn't stack up.

 

[gungho]

Who to delist this year?
I reckon Williams, Tabs, Hughes, Corbett, Reidy, Kuek and Noddy. (Some pretty unlucky ones here with injuries to Corbett and Kuek).

Keep Banners, Voss, Jones, Knobel, Stanley and Wagner.

Offer a rookie list spot to Sturt. (If possible).

 

[Ge3ks]

Surely with the amount of guys going this year (throw in Hughes and Tabs as well), a contract will be offered to Banners. Realistically, what clubs would offer him more (in salary and years)? I don't reckon many would.

That knucklehead Cornes suggested the Western Bulldogs.

The unrestricted free agents that Johnson and Healy would target if they were rival clubs

The duo named 13 gettable options.

www.sen.com.au

 

[Duz97]

Anyone worried about bray being the only one not to sign a long term deal yet? Is he gonna sook not being Captain and leave? is he waiting for us to have success to see if it’s worth staying?

 

[Taylor]

Anyone worried about bray being the only one not to sign a long term deal yet? Is he gonna sook not being Captain and leave? is he waiting for us to have success to see if it’s worth staying?

He is contracted for at least another 38 regular season games at Fremantle.

 

[Joao]

Anyone worried about bray being the only one not to sign a long term deal yet? Is he gonna sook not being Captain and leave? is he waiting for us to have success to see if it’s worth staying?

0% worry.

 

[gungho]

I know the club's list management has improved since the heady days of the late 90's, early 2000's (Trent Croad anyone?) but they still make some head scratching decisions.

Why did we offer 4 years for O Meara? (Should have offered 2. 3 max).
Why did we feel the need to sign Darcy until 2030?
Why did we give Will Brodie

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Will Brodie

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26

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19.0

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8.2

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10.8

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3.1

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4.9

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4.1

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14.0

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4.0

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10.0

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3.0

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13.8

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7.4

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6.4

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3.2

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5.4

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2.8

5star

a 4 year deal?
Also, they are both champions of the club but Fyfe and Walters should be on 1 year deals (then extend when needed). There is no way Alastair Clarkson would be giving his champions in their twilight years anymore than 1 year extensions.

We need to be a little bit more ruthless at this club.

 

[s_wd6]

Anyone worried about bray being the only one not to sign a long term deal yet? Is he gonna sook not being Captain and leave? is he waiting for us to have success to see if it’s worth staying?

No. Our last FA were Cox and Darcy. They both signed long term in the off season before their final year. Brayshaw talks likely start towards the end of the season. We rarely get in that early.

 

[Ge3ks]

Anyone worried about bray being the only one not to sign a long term deal yet?

Yes. You.

 

[DragoDelph]

No. Our last FA were Cox and Darcy. They both signed long term in the off season before their final year. Brayshaw talks likely start towards the end of the season. We rarely get in that early.

I'd be very surprised (and overjoyed) if anything got done before trade period tbh.

See who comes in (or not) and any extra left would probably go to Bray on a front loaded deal.

(ie, base of the deal done, but if don't land our targets, there could be some extra)

 

[DragoDelph]

I know the club's list management has improved since the heady days of the late 90's, early 2000's (Trent Croad anyone?) but they still make some head scratching decisions.

Why did we offer 4 years for O Meara? (Should have offered 2. 3 max).
Why did we feel the need to sign Darcy until 2030?
Why did we give Will Brodie a 4 year deal?
Also, they are both champions of the club but Fyfe and Walters should be on 1 year deals (then extend when needed). There is no way Alastair Clarkson would be giving his champions in their twilight years anymore than 1 year extensions.

We need to be a little bit more ruthless at this club.

1. Agreed, though they probably looked at the experience gap post-Mundy, and with no guarantees on Fyfe, and based it on that.

2. Because he's the prince of perth, and on probably less/year than a shorter term contract.

3. That was weird, But was also done before JOM coming in and the Fyfe resurgence, made sense at the time.

4. 2 years on less coin (SINIFICANTLY less). Also, we are looking to contend for a Flag. Clarko only dumped the old boys when they were no longer in contention and rebuilding.