List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets

What is the maximum (walk away point) you would pay for Bolton.

  • 9 OR 10

    Votes: 13 7.5%
  • 9 & 25

    Votes: 33 19.0%
  • 9 & 17

    Votes: 85 48.9%
  • 9 & F1

    Votes: 18 10.3%
  • 9 & 10

    Votes: 22 12.6%
  • 9, 10 & 17

    Votes: 3 1.7%

  • Total voters
    174

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Bell confirmed kuek and Corbett aren't going to take the field this year in the presser today

Shoulder and knee seems like an unlucky combo for Kuek, hard to see him coming back from this tbh

Ruthless would have been cutting him last year but replacing his list spot has the same outcome I guess
 
Could have said the same about cox too tho
Yeah but I'd say his competitiveness can be an issue, it's just he can read the game really really well and has a lot of time with the ball in hand for a big guy. I'm not sure Draper has that (at least not as well as Cox) and is now competing Murphy and Davies for a similar spot. I think with all of Davies, Murphy and McDonald at Peel, and the lack of run we have, they'll play him in that 3rd tall role to develop
 

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Bell confirmed kuek and Corbett aren't going to take the field this year in the presser today

Shoulder and knee seems like an unlucky combo for Kuek, hard to see him coming back from this tbh

Ruthless would have been cutting him last year but replacing his list spot has the same outcome I guess
Yeah so both are by all purposes effectively delisted (shouldnt have any problem reaching that 7 player turnover this year Dockeroo, we're already at 2).
 
Wouldn't be surprised to see Corbett or Kuek retained tbh.

Jones and anyone we sign in the SPP will be on one year deals. If Taberner retires and we miss out on McDonald, we'll need the depth imo. It's just whether Corbett or Kuek is the best option to provide that depth.
 
I think this is best read with a borderline-racist Mexican accent.

No, amigo, I am President of the Ethan Stanley.
The new President and my Cabinet might have something to say about that..

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Bell confirmed kuek and Corbett aren't going to take the field this year in the presser today

Shoulder and knee seems like an unlucky combo for Kuek, hard to see him coming back from this tbh

Ruthless would have been cutting him last year but replacing his list spot has the same outcome I guess
Did they elaborate on Corbett? Seems strange that they're not fixing whatever it is that needs fixing yet (based on him running today).
 

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Seems odd that Kuek would be ruled out for the whole year. I guess he needs to focus on strengthening legs and core as a focus and despite ACL being 12months down the track in July they will continue with the strength and conditioning.

I wouldn’t lock in either as delisting. Seeing Corbett smash out the time trials shows he is committed. Worth them training for SSP next year at the very worst.
 
Yeah so both are by all purposes effectively delisted (shouldnt have any problem reaching that 7 player turnover this year Dockeroo, we're already at 2).
The stats don’t lie over time.
My point has always been that it’s normal to have 7-8 players per year moving on for what ever reason and the same number coming in.
It’s basic maths - there is about 770 listed players in the league and close to 100 are recruited each year between rookie lists, national draft and pre season draft. So the same number have to leave.

Another way of putting it is this - in exactly 4 years time in 2027, around 40% of the players that will be listed in the entire AFL on that date are currently between the ages of 13-17.
Around half of the players on the freo list right now will not be on the list on the 29th November 2027.

I’m a fan of this years approach to churn though a few late picks and rookies like we did. Most won’t make it obviously but one or two might. Trial these long shot guys in the preseason supplemental period and try find some gold.
As the saying goes - You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.
There is approx 12 players that are the core of the list and should be here for the next decade if all goes well, and around the fringes of that you have your rookies etc. Same as every other club.
 
Surgery later this week is what I either heard in the interview or read somewhere
Surgery tomorrow.

As such - Van Rooyen starts Wed along with the others. Freo have submitted their approval for both Corbett (from tomorrow) and Kuek to be placed on LTI. Opens up 4 training spots. I’m interested to see who fulfils the fourth training spot.
 
Van Rooyen starts Wed along with the others. Freo have submitted their approval for both Corbett (from tomorrow) and Kuek to be placed on LTI. Opens up 4 training spots. I’m interested to see who fulfils the fourth training spot.
Of the 4, what is the maximum number we could potentially add to our list?
 
The stats don’t lie over time.
My point has always been that it’s normal to have 7-8 players per year moving on for what ever reason and the same number coming in.
It’s basic maths - there is about 770 listed players in the league and close to 100 are recruited each year between rookie lists, national draft and pre season draft. So the same number have to leave.

Another way of putting it is this - in exactly 4 years time in 2027, around 40% of the players that will be listed in the entire AFL on that date are currently between the ages of 13-17.
Around half of the players on the freo list right now will not be on the list on the 29th November 2027.

I’m a fan of this years approach to churn though a few late picks and rookies like we did. Most won’t make it obviously but one or two might. Trial these long shot guys in the preseason supplemental period and try find some gold.
As the saying goes - You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.
There is approx 12 players that are the core of the list and should be here for the next decade if all goes well, and around the fringes of that you have your rookies etc. Same as every other club.
Good post.

I'll have a crack at the 12

Amiss
Jackson
Brayshaw
Serong
Young
Darcy
Cox
Clark
Johnson
Walker?
Frederick?
Chapman?
Davies??
 
Good post.

I'll have a crack at the 12

Amiss
Jackson
Brayshaw
Serong
Young
Darcy
Cox
Clark
Johnson
Walker?
Frederick?
Chapman?
Davies??
Dunno why there's a question mark next to Frederick tbh. He's already AFL standard and easily.

Remove the question mark from Chapman unless he doesn't get fit consistently.

Erasmus is one you've missed from the question marks. We probably need Treacy to be genuinely amongst this group or to bring in McDonald to be successful imo.

It's a good group when you add a few slightly older guys and slightly younger guys imo.
 
The stats don’t lie over time.
My point has always been that it’s normal to have 7-8 players per year moving on for what ever reason and the same number coming in.
It’s basic maths - there is about 770 listed players in the league and close to 100 are recruited each year between rookie lists, national draft and pre season draft. So the same number have to leave.

Another way of putting it is this - in exactly 4 years time in 2027, around 40% of the players that will be listed in the entire AFL on that date are currently between the ages of 13-17.
Around half of the players on the freo list right now will not be on the list on the 29th November 2027.

I’m a fan of this years approach to churn though a few late picks and rookies like we did. Most won’t make it obviously but one or two might. Trial these long shot guys in the preseason supplemental period and try find some gold.
As the saying goes - You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.
There is approx 12 players that are the core of the list and should be here for the next decade if all goes well, and around the fringes of that you have your rookies etc. Same as every other club.
I suspect clubs have nuanced statistics regarding late picks. For example they might know the probability of younger/older draftee success rates, players in need of lengthy development compared to nearer their ceiling, there may be starts looking at success by position, country versus city may be a factor.

Walls clearly performs well in this part of the draft, and that wouldn't be by accident.
 
Dunno why there's a question mark next to Frederick tbh. He's already AFL standard and easily.

Remove the question mark from Chapman unless he doesn't get fit consistently.

Erasmus is one you've missed from the question marks. We probably need Treacy to be genuinely amongst this group or to bring in McDonald to be successful imo.

It's a good group when you add a few slightly older guys and slightly younger guys imo.
I think you've hit the nail on the head here.

You've answered your own question re Freddy and Chappy. (sounds like a comedy duo). Injuries. Same with Walker. Freddy is really important to us not only as a forward, but as 3rd in on the wing. He goes missing during games though, and sometimes has games where he just can't get near it. I will say this though - when he's on we are a much better team. If he can get more consistent, he solves a few problems for us in areas we desperately need him.

I have a few concerns re Erasmus. He has some terrific AFL traits but there are parts of his game that don't stand up. I think we all know what they are so I don't want to bash him. Really hope he works hard, listens to the coaches and improves. But you're right - he's one that could join that group.

Speaking if improving in particular areas of their game, I haven't totally given up on Will Brodie. It's unlikely from here, but he's one that is kind of flying under the radar. Not sure if his problems are fixable though. Would love to see him really push for a spot in that midfield. Still only 25.

I love Treacy. Think he adds a lot to our front half. He's not there yet, but could also certainly join that group. Good call.
 
Good post.

I'll have a crack at the 12

Amiss
Jackson
Brayshaw
Serong
Young
Darcy
Cox
Clark
Johnson
Walker?
Frederick?
Chapman?
Davies??
The 'here for the next decade' is Dockeroo's criteria I don't understand. It would rule Cox out of your list for example, and possibly Darcy. It may contain Sturt and Delean for all we know at this stage of their careers given our needs.
 
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