Indeed, but in all seriousness it turned out to be a very astute nice to move on a shorter contract, develop into the best player in the team and then re-sign.
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There are pretty much 5 types of players in an AFL team:
Ruck (1-2)
Key forward (2-3)
Key defender (2-3)
Lock down small defender (1)
Midfielder (14-17)
And the lock down small defender is also probably a mid.
Our best mids tend to play in the centre square, and the rest play forward or back. Newly drafted mids, even Daicos, are not centre square ready mids immediately. Reid is the only exception I can think of (there are probably morem, but not many).
As mids get better/ more centre square ready (Dawson, Soligo, Rankine), they displace the lesser centre sqaure mids (Keays, Sloane, Laird). The lesser mids exit the team.
The only exception is where a better mid adds more value as a backline mid (Stewart for Cats, only played in centre square to break a tag) or forward mid (Stengle, Charlie Cameron).
Curtin wasn't a centre square mid leading into the draft. He played as a backline mid in the nationals (AA), WAFL Seniors and in the 2022 Futures game (BOG). He got some centre square bursts (not sure about the Futures game), but very heavily backline mid role.
Which is where he starts his career with us. He's not going to be a centre square mid in at least his first couple of years, except maybe in spurts, and he may end up being too valuable as a playmaker in the back half to play in the centre square much at all.
And that's fine, Curtin's still going to be a gun.
Presumably a crack at David King from when Izak left GCWhy?
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I’m not going to argue but rather ask that you read my post again as your calculations are incorrect as is the use of two question marks.
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You don't overpay players you already have.
Let's say he gets $950k (which is probably realistic) - that's still only a $250k to $300k increase.
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It's AFL CPI.
What? Who says $1M is overpaying for him, that's how much your best players on your list should be earning. No wonder Lever, Cameron and especially McGovern left, I really hope our salary management strategy has changed since then.
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Don't think so.
Hmm, I just don’t trust his health at his age
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If you overpay players to stay and you overpay players to come here, how are you going to build a premiership level list?
That being said, maybe I'm being conservative. I have no issues with Rankine being one of highest paid players in our list, which probably means he should be at $1m.
My point was against the poster a page or so ago that made it sound like this was bad news and was going to prevent us getting other players. We're already paying him well, so the pay rise wont stop us doing things.
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I was joking.
Depends on the price, as 28 for the entirety of next season means he could play 3-4 years more. We desperately need a classy forward pocket, he would be awesome.
Sure he needs to pass the fitness assessment, but he replaces McHenry short term, Murphy out of the team 2025 and then off the squad, and puts pressure on Pedlar to actually pull up his socks and put in an immense pre-season.
Problem is that fitness test, he has played just 103 games, and has a 2 year contract.
He is a deadset gun. Would love him.
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Laird for all Australian
He's too tall for that role.
Looking like could be a decent offseason for injection of talent
Out
Sloane
Berry
Himmelberg
McHenry
Gollant
Parnell
2025 future 1st
Dees 2nd rounder
pick from Berry deal
In
Cumming - FA
Pick 4 - 1 of Draper /Lalor/Osullivan/Reid
Pick 13 - Dodson
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Out
Sloane
Berry
Himmelberg
McHenry
Gollant
Parnell
2025 future 1st
Dees 2nd rounder
pick from Berry deal
In
Cumming - FA
Pick 4 - 1 of Draper /Lalor/Osullivan/Reid
Pick 13 - Dodson
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Welsh
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Update Mutineer on your star player Ben Hobbs
9 games for the season, 2 of which were wearing the green vest .....hasn't been able to get a game the last 7 weeks ...... Dylan Shiel the 31 YO has been preferred
You have a thing for mediocre players, who were good U18 players .....he'll be trade bait this trade period, there's your star mid
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Pick 13?
Trade with Freo
Future first for pick 13
They’ll need trade collateral for Warner next season
Depends if they want Warner later or Bolton now
Also I wouldn’t trade our F1 to get a ruck, even though Dodson’s good
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