List Mgmt. 2024 List Mismanagement and Trading

[Cromulant]

yes we will because it will just be points - picks in 40s added up

I reckon that would be way above where he'd be in our talent list.

And most clubs for that matter.

 

[Bazz_27]

I reckon that would be way above where he'd be in our talent list.

And most clubs for that matter.

Something I saw the other day had him around pick 50

 

[crow2crow]

Something I saw the other day had him around pick 50

thats talent order not where a bid will come

 

[Cromulant]

thats talent order not where a bid will come

I dont think a bid will come inside 30.

 

[crow2crow]

I dont think a bid will come inside 30.

about there -30ish

 

[Bazz_27]

about there -30ish

There is no chance a big is coming in 20 picks early for him. it'll be 40+

 

[Cromulant]

about there -30ish

Unlikely

 

[GreyCrow]

about there -30ish

No

 

[JPetro83]

Are there any second string ruckman out there that should a number 1 ruckman that is better than ROB? if so who and if there is we should go and get him!

 

[crow2crow]

No

lets see smarty

 

[Fuddnuddler]

Are there any second string ruckman out there that should a number 1 ruckman that is better than ROB? if so who and if there is we should go and get him!

Visentini (but Port won't let him go).
Peter Ladhams (loose canon but has natural ability and would put selection pressure on ROB that he has never known from Strachan)

 

[Cromulant]

Visentini (but Port won't let him go).
Peter Ladhams (loose canon but has natural ability and would put selection pressure on ROB that he has never known from Strachan)

Id have said Ned Moyle too, before he signed an extension

 

[skam85]

Are there any second string ruckman out there that should a number 1 ruckman that is better than ROB? if so who and if there is we should go and get him!

Nick Bryan

 

[1970crow]

yep definitely he was one but clearly a marginal player not getting games at Saints behind champs as you pointed out. look there probably are some examples but the fact we need to rack our brains to come up with 1-2 in the last 15 years is really the substance of my argument. and that is its not common

Would be interesting to see some stats on these movements. Whilst it seems like we don't get our fair share, with Adelaide location claimed as an inherent disadvantage, the smaller number of movements are shared between only 2 clubs. Same with other interstate sides. So whilst the larger number of movements are players to Victoria, there are 10 clubs that share in those players.

 

[119others]

Would be interesting to see some stats on these movements. Whilst it seems like we don't get our fair share, with Adelaide location claimed as an inherent disadvantage, the smaller number of movements are shared between only 2 clubs. Same with other interstate sides. So whilst the larger number of movements are players to Victoria, there are 10 clubs that share in those players.

Yes good point and Scorpus provided something like this a few weeks ago which effectively did show SA stacked up well on total returning players divided by available clubs. The issues are perhaps:

(1) we get very few “early stage” returning players that are quality. JHF an absolute exception and even Rankine was relatively early at 4 years. Most seem to be later on or FA’s

(2) within the 10 VIC teams there seems to realistically be only half that get such players - Geelong who are massivley over represented for A grade and first round talent. Add Bailey Smith to Danger to JC and the 4 x first rounders they got the same year they won the flag 2 years ago, Pies, Blues, Tigers and Dons. Basically nothing decent to Kangas, limited scraps to Saints and Bullies and even Hawks when they are successful. Dees got May and Lever over 2 years and not much else in the last decade IIRC.

So its more comparing us to the really successful clubs - and seeing the net movement of quality youngsters that I feel we have been massively disadvantaged the last 10-15 years:

IN - Rankine and Dawson - both absolute quality and AA level
OUT - CC (best small forward since losing him), Gunston (best mid forward since losing him), Danger (Brownlow following year), Lever (best third tall in league), Bock (AA back), Davis (GWS captain), MM (quality but underperforming backman) plus lots more

OUTS>>>>>>>>IN

 

[119others]

Rowey saying Cummin to Crows - can we trust him??

 

[jackster83]

Rowey saying Cummin to Crows - can we trust him??

No.

 

[Cromulant]

Rowey saying Cummin to Crows - can we trust him??

no

 

[119others]

rowey now crapping on re Luko:

60% chance stays GC
30-35% MLB clubs to play at The G
3% Crows

etc

just guessing and agree he has no idea

 

[rabidcrow]

If we have to match a bid in the 20s i dont think we'll bother.

Of course we will. We didn’t ask for Welsh to spend a year at the club to not pick him
And for those suggesting how bad his year has been - played 1 game in U 18 ‘s from memory for WWT and kicked 8 goals?
Wasn’t the focal point at champs or for Crows and has gone beautifully under the radar. Has AFL attributes - but probably a little like Fog in that he will need to build his power a bit more before impacting
But will be an AFL player and will 100% be on our list


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[rabidcrow]

Are there any second string ruckman out there that should a number 1 ruckman that is better than ROB? if so who and if there is we should go and get him!

Jordan Sweet?


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[Cromulant]

Of course we will. We didn’t ask for Welsh to spend a year at the club to not pick him
And for those suggesting how bad his year has been - played 1 game in U 18 ‘s from memory for WWT and kicked 8 goals?
Wasn’t the focal point at champs or for Crows and has gone beautifully under the radar. Has AFL attributes - but probably a little like Fog in that he will need to build his power a bit more before impacting
But will be an AFL player and will 100% be on our list


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He'll be on our list but a bid in the 20s will test just how much we want him

 

[Shifty Crow]

rowey now crapping on re Luko:

60% chance stays GC
30-35% MLB clubs to play at The G
3% Crows

etc

just guessing and agree he has no idea

I think this might get ugly between GC and Luko / Agent


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[Cromulant]

rowey now crapping on re Luko:

60% chance stays GC
30-35% MLB clubs to play at The G
3% Crows

etc

just guessing and agree he has no idea

Well he's got the first bit right.

No clubs will want to pay a first rounder for a guy who the Suns don't want.

 

[weekend at bernies]

Are there any second string ruckman out there that should a number 1 ruckman that is better than ROB? if so who and if there is we should go and get him!

Murphy would be better than ROB.