Preview 2024 National Draft Preview Thread

[JGreezy]

So 2010 to 2019.
We've never really grasped the importance of leg speed.

That doesn't mean that you need 22 sprinters on the field.

A good footballer is faster than a good runner in a lot of situations because they position themselves to have a head start.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Was looking very dangerous in the Metro v Country game before he got injured. Extremely powerful peg, if I remember correctly he had a shot from 50 odd off a couple of steps that went through post high. Like when an elite golfer hits a drive, you go like ‘that’s different’.

He has plenty of attributes that will transition well to AFL level if he gets the chance. He is so bloody powerful. The reason why he’ll probably go undrafted though is because at this stage he is a low possession player. Personally though, I think that’s because he is being forced to play far taller than he. He is essentially playing as a tall forward in the jets forward line with very limited support.

Sounds like Cooper?

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Dattoli a little bit quicker and more potential to accumulate the footy up the ground.

 

[giantroo]

Still looking to build our midfield and spine according to Clarko.

 

[Smoocher]

CLARKO. "Depth of midfield is most important need".

Come on down FOS, Jagga, Smile, Draper or Langford.

No doubt we we will be taking a midfielder at 2.

Hopefully it's FOS.

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[Wild Bill]

CLARKO. "Depth of midfield is most important need".

Come on down FOS, Jagga, Smile, Draper or Langford.

No doubt we we will be taking a midfielder at 2.

Hopefully it's FOS.

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FOS looks like a very good player but at 182cm IMO we need a bigger body as a POD.

Both Smille or Langford would be our biggest mid at 194 & 190 cm. Jagga and Draper are both small as well.

Lazzaro 180cm
Phillips 181cm
McKercher 182cm
Wardlaw 182cm
Simpkin 183cm
Stephens 184cm
Powell 184cm
Sheezel 185cm
Scott 186cm
LDU 188cm

 

[4cunningTonneTruck]

FOS looks like a very good player but at 182cm IMO we need a bigger body as a POD.

Both Smille or Langford would be our biggest mid at 194 & 190 cm. Jagga and Draper are both small as well.

Lazzaro 180cm
Phillips 181cm
McKercher 182cm
Wardlaw 182cm
Simpkin 183cm
Stephens 184cm
Powell 184cm
Sheezel 185cm
Scott 186cm
LDU 188cm

I don't buy into the height of mids being that important. A 182cm Wardlaw is a far more contested beast than a 194cm Josh Smilie. LDU at 188cm is fine and if we need we can throw Cam in there or Zane when he fills out.

Also, we already have a 202cm big bodied mid in there, big X.

 

[Wild Bill]

I don't buy into the height of mids being that important. A 182cm Wardlaw is a far more contested beast than a 194cm Josh Smilie. LDU at 188cm is fine and if we need we can throw Cam in there or Zane when he fills out.

Also, we already have a 202cm big bodied mid in there, big X.

Been a long time since a team won a flag without a 188cm plus midfielder.

 

[shinboner magic]

Watching him rate of improvement through the year, I’d be surprised if those numbers don’t improve as well.

This kid just knows how to play the game - doesn’t matter how fast you run or how high you can jump if you ain’t got the footy.

 

[archereleven]

Been a long time since a team won a flag without a 188cm plus midfielder.

Lucky we have LDU then

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[justroyal]

Alright for me it’s

Smilie vs Langford. Would need to get more info about their strengths and weaknesses.

Or

FOS vs Draper.

So I guess if it’s north, they will select on who is the most talented.

Not fussed about the Richmond vfl playing kid. Seems like we’ve been there done that.

 

[ToxicMegaPunts]

Been a long time since a team won a flag without a 188cm plus midfielder.

Tigers premiership teams in 2019-20 wouldn't have had a mid over 188cm. Big-bodied mids are way overrated in terms of impact they have over games. Give me speed/agility/spread any day, regardless of height.

 

[Wild Bill]

Tigers premiership teams in 2019-20 wouldn't have had a mid over 188cm. Big-bodied mids are way overrated in terms of impact they have over games. Give me speed/agility/spread any day, regardless of height.

McIntosh is 192cm.

Bont, Cripps, Green have huge impacts on games.

 

[4cunningTonneTruck]

Been a long time since a team won a flag without a 188cm plus midfielder.

Here I was thinking we weren't winning flags due to youth, inexperience, lack of leadership and role players but really it's coz LDU is 1cm shorter than Dangerfield and Oliver and 2cm shorter than Jack Crisp.

 

[4cunningTonneTruck]

McIntosh is 192cm.

Bont, Cripps, Green have huge impacts on games.

And none of those 3 have won a flag other than Bont 8 years ago.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

McIntosh is 192cm.

Bont, Cripps, Green have huge impacts on games.

McIntosh is an outside flaky winger. He isn’t doing much heavy lifting on the inside. All their inside work was done by Prestia and Cotchin who are both on the smaller side of midfielders.

Bont is a freakish outlier. There aren’t going to be many 192+cm midfielders that come along and impact games the way he does.

Cripps and Green no doubt impact games but they have had plenty of support with the midfield depth around them.

Sydney are the best midfield in the comp this year and they don’t have any monster big bodied types, but they cut you apart on the spread and running both ways.

LDU is our big contested ball winner.

 

[Wild Bill]

Here I was thinking we weren't winning flags due to youth, inexperience, lack of leadership and role players but really it's coz LDU is 1cm shorter than Dangerfield and Oliver and 2cm shorter than Jack Crisp.

Pendles is 191cm

 

[ohmygewd]

That’s not going to happen. If the situation was reversed and we had 1,6,7 and traded 6 and 7 for 2 this board would melt.

Lets see, think 2022, if Will Ashcroft wasn't tied to Brissie or nominated for the open draft...would you have traded away 6&7 for the rights to Sheezel?

 

[Lomas]

Pendles is 191cm

I'm surprised he didn't give basketball a go with that height.

 

[TurnoverMerchant]

Been a long time since a team won a flag without a 188cm plus midfielder.

Geelong in 2022 had Danger who is 189cm. Otherwise, you will find they did not have much else. It is a myth.

 

[TurnoverMerchant]

McIntosh is 192cm.

Bont, Cripps, Green have huge impacts on games.

You think McIntosh was a reason they won those flags?? He is a winger ffs, and we are talking about supposed "contested beasts".

 

[justroyal]

Essentially height isn’t our midfield issue. But slow campaigners with shit acceleration and others who are still too young to warrant proper criticism.

I.e Powell, Phillips, Jy compared to Wardlaw and Sheezel

 

[4cunningTonneTruck]

Pendles is 191cm

I don't think anyone's referred to him as a contested bull. He's the player he is due to IQ, skill and composure, not coz of his height. It's why they say Sheez resonates closely with him even being 6cms shorter.

 

[the big lebowski]

Just draft FOS. First year at half back.

Round 1 2026

B- Arch Griff Corr

HB- Goater W Dawson Fisher

C- Kerch LDU FOS

HF- Zuhaar Comben Dursma

F- Simpkin Larkey Curtis

OB- Xerri Wardlaw Sheezel

Int- Powell Scott Ford Versatile Tall

Draft best KPF left at our second pick

Best small pressure forward at third pick

First rounder 2025 to pick to fill gap or trade for established gun player

 

[chubbspeterson]

FOS looks like a very good player but at 182cm IMO we need a bigger body as a POD.

Both Smille or Langford would be our biggest mid at 194 & 190 cm. Jagga and Draper are both small as well.

Lazzaro 180cm
Phillips 181cm
McKercher 182cm
Wardlaw 182cm
Simpkin 183cm
Stephens 184cm
Powell 184cm
Sheezel 185cm
Scott 186cm
LDU 188cm

I feel like height only makes a difference for that first possession winning the clearance. If that big guy like Cripps or Greene doesn't win it first then they are basically done post-clearance because the quicker mids get after the groundball.
There's a big difference between a Cripps/Greene vs more athletic Will Day, Josh Weddle or Bont.
I'd be leaning towards FOS or Draper as first choice right now but the testing will be interesting.
Sam Lalor is another I like but would like to see his testing. He's only 187cm but he's strong and can go forward.

 

[Wild Bill]

Geelong in 2022 had Danger who is 189cm. Otherwise, you will find they did not have much else. It is a myth.

This was their starting line up.

C: Blicavs 198cm O'Connor 191cm Duncan 188cm
R: Stanley 200cm, Danger 188cm Guthrie 187cm