Analysis 2024 National Draft

Who will be our first selection on night 2 of the Draft?


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Finn's average was taken from 4 games. In one of those he broke his thumb, another was coming back from a hip injury.

So you're saying that he missed half his games through injury. And was injured/coming back from injury in half the games he played?

FOS to Carlton confirmed...

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I would like to envisiage seeing both Harry and Charley breaking left and right on the lead because our Pick 3 has the ball going forward.
No longer sitting back waiting for the long bomb.
Harry likely to break right from the left pocket, running into Charlie who breaks left from the right pocket....
 

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Pick 38. (Carlton) – Noah Mraz
Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country –DEF, 198cm
The key defender was limited by injury earlier in the year, but showed promising signs with his aerial intercepting ability off half back and is able to read the play well and use his frame to push up the ground and go deeper down back.

Mraz upon being drafted to Carlton: I'm Yours.

Pretty sure...
 
They're definitely going to take Tauru if they can. Maybe they think they can select FOS and then wait for Tauru to fall to Pick #7 and beyond and they may trade their 2025 pick into get him. So maybe if they're confident they can pull that off they go for FOS and trade back in. But it seems liek Tauru is their preferred selection.

I would love love love them to take FOS at Pick #2. Would be a dream scenario for us.

Why? if FOS is our man
 
The weirdest thing about St Kilda possibly bidding on Ben Camporeale that no one has asked is why is it only St Kilda that anyone suspects will bid on Ben? There are 16 other AFL clubs. SOS is incredibly predictable if he bids on Ben.
Most of the 17 other clubs won’t be in a position to bid on Ben because they don’t have the picks in the range required or will use up picks to match bids on their own f/s and academy players.

1. Adelaide won’t - second pick is #64.
2. Brisbane won’t - all picks to match bids.
3. Collingwood - first pick is 52.
4. Essendon won’t - picks needed for Kako
5. Fremantle - possibly with #30?
6. Geelong’s first pick is #45
7. GCS first pick is #39
8. GWS with #37 doesn’t achieve anything
9. Hawks possibly with #33
10. Melbourne wouldn’t use #9 to bid
11. NM second pick is #62 won’t bid.
12. Port possibly with #29.
13. Richmond’s unlikely with last pick 24
14. St Kilda most likely with #32
15. Sydney unlikely with #22
16. WCE unlikely with #26
17. WB with #35 doesn’t achieve much.

I think there are around four or so teams in that range that could bid on Ben - including the Saints (most likely), Port, Freo or Hawks.
 
This is a but of a misnomer as the draft at that point allowed each team to select one player a year earlier than they would otherwise be eligible. Fev was our underager.

Some other famous examples of clubs waiting towards the back of the draft are Goodes (43 in 1997) and Embley (57 in 1998). Inevitably it got to the point where most of the top 10 would be underage and that probably killed off the rule.
But still, I remember hearing that Fev lacked that one real standout quality that prevented him from being considered earlier. Obviously no mention of just how quick he was over the first five metres or the fact that he rarely missed a goal as a junior. My only query at the time was that he wasn't all that physically imposing as a KPF at that stage.

Anyway, there certainly will be much less of a chance of any rare gems being available at pick 38 if we are hell bent on taking a KPD.
 
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Have to be happy with this

Pick 38. (Carlton) – Noah Mraz
Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country –DEF, 198cm
The key defender was limited by injury earlier in the year, but showed promising signs with his aerial intercepting ability off half back and is able to read the play well and use his frame to push up the ground and go deeper down back.
Nope, don't rate him. Just a gut feeling.
 

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Controversial opinion:

If SOS bids on Ben C……

Let him have him. Let’s take a key defender with that pick.
Very silly considering who we delisted which now means we need midfield depth coming through too. You don't ignore a discounted talent in a now light position group lol
 
Most of the 17 other clubs won’t be in a position to bid on Ben because they don’t have the picks in the range required or will use up picks to match bids on their own f/s and academy players.

1. Adelaide won’t - second pick is #64.
2. Brisbane won’t - all picks to match bids.
3. Collingwood - first pick is 52.
4. Essendon won’t - picks needed for Kako
5. Fremantle - possibly with #30?
6. Geelong’s first pick is #45
7. GCS first pick is #39
8. GWS with #37 doesn’t achieve anything
9. Hawks possibly with #33
10. Melbourne wouldn’t use #9 to bid
11. NM second pick is #62 won’t bid.
12. Port possibly with #29.
13. Richmond’s unlikely with last pick 24
14. St Kilda most likely with #32
15. Sydney unlikely with #22
16. WCE unlikely with #26
17. WB with #35 doesn’t achieve much.

I think there are around four or so teams in that range that could bid on Ben - including the Saints (most likely), Port, Freo or Hawks.

In fairness, WB and GWS don't lose anything by bidding, and picks 35 and 37 are absolutely in the range. Port have 36 as well as 29.

I reckon that's 6 clubs with 7 picks between them that might bid on Ben before 38.
 
Talk of a half back is interesting. Would absolutely love Zak Johnson given his ability to play multiple and creative ball use.

Still expect to take a KPD at that pick though
He is a bottom ager (24 December birthday), so probably has a lot of growth and improvement in him still compared to other in this year’s draft. Wish we could somehow add him to our list.
 
They're definitely going to take Tauru if they can. Maybe they think they can select FOS and then wait for Tauru to fall to Pick #7 and beyond and they may trade their 2025 pick into get him. So maybe if they're confident they can pull that off they go for FOS and trade back in. But it seems liek Tauru is their preferred selection.

I would love love love them to take FOS at Pick #2. Would be a dream scenario for us.

Norths dream is to get Tauru and a 2nd first rounder. Trouble is, Dees and Tigs have threatened to take Tauru (regardless of actual interest). It means they have boxed North in, which helps them (and us!!).

I know you might have a preference for Draper, but surely you want what is best for the club? Saying FOS being taken off the board is NOT a dream scenario for the club. A dream scenario is having a choice on who we choose. It would be a perfect result for the club to back in its years of analysis and hard work and select their preferred option rather than having to take what is leftover. Which still may be draper BTW!
 
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https://www.afl.com.au/news/1255008

Langford Smith FOS Draper all mentioned as links to us

(And Lalor but said firming as pick 1)

Even Cal ranks FOS as the best available talent (outside of Father Suns) this close to the draft. I know its not a popular choice for many, but if he slides to our pick, I think he is our man
 
Even Cal ranks FOS as the best available talent (outside of Father Suns) this close to the draft. I know its not a popular choice for many, but if he slides to our pick, I think he is our man

If he is available I can't see us passing on him. Way to much talk around that he is the one we want
 

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