Analysis 2024 National Draft

[Red_man2008]

Sam Lalor fits the bill - if this doesn't sell you on him I don't know what will. I can see why he won't be there at pick 3.

He looks Patty Cripps like on his movement through the contest.

 

[SolGoodman]

Langford plays against schoolboys champ.

My bad, didn’t know he turned down playing against AFL players like every other draftee…Champ

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Interesting that the Bombers delisted one of the Davey twins. 2 very similar players who haven't shown a lot and with list spots tight one had to go due to Kako coming in.

The Campos at least seem to be different types of players. There is a risk taking F&S just because they are. Despite this I think it is crazy how far they seem to have dropped off the radar.

I would hope that we wouldn’t be looking at them if they weren’t F/S. The only reason I think we should is Ben might come cheap if he lasts until the 40’s and with Walkers son looking so promising we probably have to not let him have second thoughts.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

This is a bit disingenuous from you: timed speed from a dead start in a testing environment is not the same as consistency of performance on game day across a season, across a junior career. Sometimes the day and conditions are right and it confirm what you see on tape, sometimes it causes concern. This is a nothing result.

Hallelujah Jim, totally agree. The standing sprint is just an indicator if you have basic leg speed, but nothing much else.

I'd be highly disappointed if our players were standing dead still while the ball is in play. Acceleration from a standing start is not the same as when you're already in motion.

Similar with the 2km time trial. The old beep test is a better indicator imo - which better simulates match day where players rack up the km's through a series of efforts, not just a single effort over a specific distance.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Don’t most of them?

Not Sid Draper, and Jagga Smith has performed against men.

 

[SurreyBlue]

"O'Sullivan also weighed in on how he sees top 5 draft of the draft playing out after SEN's Adam Cooney asked him to list himself at pick three, and fill in the blanks around that...."

Cheeky. Sorry at work not listening but browsing.

 

[Bearded Carpenter]

Love a good old fashioned champ off

 

[HarryFlashman]

Love a good old fashioned champ off

You know a conversation is getting spicy when “champ” is thrown out.
Was only a matter of time.
I blame bloody Soapy V everyone was getting along until he went rogue on pick 3 with a candidate that’s not even in the poll

 

[Tjblues]

Hallelujah Jim, totally agree. The standing sprint is just an indicator if you have basic leg speed, but nothing much else.

I'd be highly disappointed if our players were standing dead still while the ball is in play. Acceleration from a standing start is not the same as when you're already in motion.

Similar with the 2km time trial. The old beep test is a better indicator imo - which better simulates match day where players rack up the km's through a series of efforts, not just a single effort over a specific distance.

Nah the 2km is a better indicator than the beep test for sure.

Beep test you spend 70% of it moving at a lower speed than you’d ever be moving on a footy field

2km is a good physical and mental test. Wouldn’t mind them switching to a 3x1km on a timed interval but the beep is used for school kids due to affordability and ease, not a good fit for elite sport

 

[SolGoodman]

Love a good old fashioned champ off

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

I posted a while ago in one of the champs games I was watching, he's a better than average midfielder but "when he got shifted to the forward line he ripped the game a new one".
He's one heck of a powerful mark nearly squeezes the air out of the ball, and he knows where the goals are.
One of the better decision makers and disposers in this draft imo, there's a lot to like.

Love a good lefty (kick) too.

Bit like tennis players, good lefties are special...

 

[myblueroan]

Love a good old fashioned champ off

Me too

 

[V_23]

So, instead of narrowing down the options and coming to a consensus of who we all think should be selected at pick 3, we’ve now added another possible option in Langford…

 

[tarczonandjane]

So, instead of narrowing down the options and coming to a consensus of who we all think should be selected at pick 3, we’ve now added another possible option in Langford…

I’d suggest taking a chill pill and tuning out of here until draft night. But I can’t even take my own advice

 

[BlackGoanna]

Langford is a more powerful kick here and now and gets more ball speed that makes him more deadly when kicking over 40 metres, but to decry Smith as not being elite with the ball in hand is absolutely ridiculous.

You're making him sound like Richard Tambling. Smith will put on a bit of size very quickly, he's almost got the body of a marathon runner at the moment, and it shows in his work rate and time trials.

I expect Smith to get notably quicker and more agile in an elite program, and that's saying something because he's already zipping about.

In our midfield mix, he's not going to get enough time and he's going to get scragged. He will break more tackles than Kennedy, but he won't break or escape as many as Cripps.

I like him, but I think he will be made to look a lot more ordinary a lot more often at AFL level. Expecting him to slide, and at this point Twomey would be the only one who is big on his draft rating, probably because he'd love him at Essendon.

You can see how hampered he is there by hip and hamstring concerns. Broke through tackles because he's probably over 90 kgs playing against kids, but he needs to trim down and do more focused conditioning work.

As for Dusty MK II, I think there's a Stingrays player a little outside the top 10 who plays a lot like Dustin too, but I'm sure Richmond are keeping quiet about that so he's there for one of their later picks.

Smith is a good ball user. I would define elite for those that can both lower the eyes and hit up short passes, while also having penetration at 50+ meters.


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[V_23]

I’d suggest taking a chill pill and tuning out of here until draft night. But I can’t even take my own advice

This is me trying to sleep lately:

 

[reubsblues]

Love a good old fashioned champ off

We all love a good c##k sucker

 

[Juice030103]

He looks Patty Cripps like on his movement through the contest.

Take this back right now

 

[El Topo]

Smith is a good ball user. I would define elite for those that can both lower the eyes and hit up short passes, while also having penetration at 50+ meters.


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That's a definition of elite that would exclude the Sam Mitchells of the world. Tough crowd!

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]