Analysis 2024 National Draft

[ray8182]

I know hannaford is old news now but considering how much interest many of us had in him l couldn’t help but post his combine results from a big footy draft thread.

Hannaford tested at the state combine

Height 180.1
Vertical jump 66
VJ Right 86
VJ Left 69
5mtr 1.077
10mtr 1.775
20mtr 2.954
Agility 7.922
2KM 7.26

Excellent speed and agility results but then there is that nasty last line. 7mins 26 seconds not great. I have noticed he has slipped in some rankings from possible first round pick to mid second. Poor endurance may be the reason.


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[GT619]

Would love Dennis at 38.

get around him

 

[Tjblues]

High half-forward would be a great starting point and a boon for our forward unit and midfield.

Because we need to be able to link in midfield and break from stoppage more easily

He doesn't help with that, much like his 2nd cousin given Walsh's preference to play more inside.

You can't just keep packing in too much of the same athletic profile, unless they're all elite speed/endurance mixes of various sizes

We've had too many grinders, and all FOS can do to separate clearly from that is leap at the ball from time to time. He's not as quick as Heeney.

And? We don't need that, and the situation will change over time too.

If you could, would you prefer Neale or McCluggage to add to our 2025 midfield?

Heeney at his combine ram a 2.95 for the 20m sprint

FOS ran a 2.98

Combine that with his top 10 finishes in the 2km, agility, and 2nd in the vertical jump and I think you can absolutely make the argument that he’s a superior athlete.

I think he’ll be gone by our pick, but if we take him one of the main reasons is his athleticism, it’s a big strength of his, he’s far from a “grinder”

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

I'd have a couple others ahead of him at that range but certainly looks a decent prospect

We certainly need to recruit a good KPD prospect at our 2nd pick, if all goes well provided we can keep the pick…
If Thomas Simms is somehow still on the board then I’d be extremely tempted to snap him right up, i think he’ll end up developing into one of the best KPP’s from the draft, a genuine KPF/RUCK who potentially has the ability to play across all three lines…

 

[PenskeFile]

I was going to say the same thing as mentioned above - North could trade down to 6 but chances are Tauru goes at 5 to Dees anyway so they may not risk it. Would love to see Norf hold 2 and pick Tauru, then we snaffled Jagga. But gut feel is that the club likes FOS most given his balance, impact and ceiling. Hope there's no nepotism in the conversation or thinking in any way (given FOS and Walsh connection).

Would love to peek inside Austin's brain to see.

Not long now though, I suppose.

There’s no way nepotism would impact anything, not with pick 3. No way.

 

[katmanblue]

We all love a good c##k sucker

They're hard to come by.

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[David Sylvian]

Where will pick 38 end up after the father son bidding etc. asking for a friend!

 

[MITSUHIRATO]

I don’t give a crap about who we pick at 3 anymore because it’s going to be class either way.

I’m more anxious about Old mate SOS bidding on Ben Camporeale out of spite at 32. We know that he has form in this area.

That will blow up our chances of getting a crack at another decent young KPD.

 

[sweethoney]

I don’t give a crap about who we pick at 3 anymore because it’s going to be class either way.

I’m more anxious about Old mate SOS bidding on Ben Camporeale out of spite at 32. We know that he has form in this area.

That will blow up our chances of getting a crack at another decent young KPD.

Wonder if we can do a pick swap with Essendon they have 28 and 31

 

[BigFrizz36]

Wonder if we can do a pick swap with Essendon they have 28 and 31

Sadly * first picks are likely to be used in matching a bid for their NGA selection Isask Kako.

 

[BigFrizz36]

People will poo poo this, but Shiel at GWS was sublime. At full flight one of the most damaging players in the comp for a few years.

So get him for 4 or 5 years then sell him to * for a couple of first rounders a la Shiel?

 

[sweethoney]

Sadly * first picks are likely to be used in matching a bid for their NGA selection Isask Kako.

Yeah I know that. That’s why I’d be hoping they’d swap one of those picks for 38 and a future pick on draft night

 

[BlackGoanna]

Does Sid Draper remind anyone else of GWS Dylan Shiel

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Dylan Shiel

Age

31

Ht

182cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.6

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

23.4

5star

K

13.6

5star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.2

2star

T

3.4

4star

CL

6.4

5star

D

19.8

5star

K

8.4

4star

HB

11.4

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

3.8

5star

?

I think he is more Prestia with a touch more speed


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[Coona Blues]

I don’t give a crap about who we pick at 3 anymore because it’s going to be class either way.

I’m more anxious about Old mate SOS bidding on Ben Camporeale out of spite at 32. We know that he has form in this area.

That will blow up our chances of getting a crack at another decent young KPD.

Hoping that there is some sort of gentleman’s agreement emanating from the four way trade which resulted in Macrae to Aints and Chugga to the kennel that precludes SOS from being a prick in that area.

 

[branedotorg]

Hoping that there is some sort of gentleman’s agreement emanating from the four way trade which resulted in Macrae to Aints and Chugga to the kennel that precludes SOS from being a prick in that area.

Better chance of emerging from the ocean completely dry

 

[BigFrizz36]

I think he is more Prestia with a touch more speed


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And hamstrings not made of paper?

 

[RPCB]

I don’t give a crap about who we pick at 3 anymore because it’s going to be class either way.

I’m more anxious about Old mate SOS bidding on Ben Camporeale out of spite at 32. We know that he has form in this area.

That will blow up our chances of getting a crack at another decent young KPD.

He can go for it. Will just show everyone that he’s not a serious list manager.

 

[Sheephead]

Teams, and in particular Saints (SOS), won’t bid on either Campo before 38. Father sons are like players who nominate clubs. Other clubs look at the numbers and unless unrealistic, like leaving Ashcroft to BRI, they ‘allow’ them to get where they want if it’s fair. Academy etc are different, they’re free range. I don’t know SOS personally but have met him numerous times on holidays. He’s not the POS everyone alludes to and still loves Carlton. It’s a business and he has a job. Rats, who I know pretty well through his son, is exactly the same. People on here draw a far too long bow sometimes and talk out their posterior about ex-Carltonians. Teague and Bolton hold no grudge either and like their opinion matters dramatically to their new clubs. It’s not the US.

 

[Sheephead]

Slight rant above. Anyway, what I came on to post. Max Knobel surprisingly delisted by Dockers. They have promised to rookie him, but worth a serious look IMHO.

 

[NewDarkNavyBlues]

Looks like Lalor and FOS are top 2 and will be selected by Richmond.

Jagga suddenly has a low ceiling and will slide to pick 11

 

[JuddgementDay]

Slight rant above. Anyway, what I came on to post. Max Knobel surprisingly delisted by Dockers. They have promised to rookie him, but worth a serious look IMHO.

Is there also an understanding by clubs not to draft players that are likely to be re-rookies by their club?

 

[NewDarkNavyBlues]

The more I watch of Jagga the more I think we take him. The knocks on him are so minor. He actually can take the ball forward from stoppage and hit targets. Future captain.

 

[windows1]

Thanks windows.

I’ve looked at FOS’s games in 2023 and can see some great qualities and passages of play. There’s also some examples of quick kicks forward, turnovers and poor shots at goal mixed in with his 2023 highlights which seems strange.

I’m probably not seeing enough as to why he would be rated ahead of Lalor, Jagga or Draper based on their 2024 form. Would have been nice to see how FOS would had developed in 2024 if was unencumbered.

FOS is fast, agile as hell, great leap, thumping kick. It’s bloody hard to find guys with those raw assets. Think about what he will be like in a professional environment for 5 years. Watching video each week, gaining experience.

 

[Juice030103]

Think we take Draper over jagga now

He’s too quick to pass up on assuming Finn and Lalor go 1 and 2