Analysis 2024 National Draft

[Aphrodite]

 

[TENACIOUS]

O'Farrell still available at 38 too (and no bid on Ben beforehand).

I think I have an unhealthy obsession for Lalor to get to us.

Like WalshistheGOAT and Berry

You’d hope at pick 38 one or more of Ough, Barret, O’Farrell, Whitlock’s, Mraz, Gerreyn would be available

 

[GT619]

Tend to agree with this. We’ll end up with one of FOS or Smith with Langford an outside chance due to his elite ball use and mid-fwd impact.

smith sees things quicker than others big moments player

 

[BluStreak]

Smith maybe an accumulator but from the vision I have seen he also finds space frequently when he gains the football.
To me that is an extractor.

He may not have the burst that Draper has or the size that Lalor / Langford have but he displays a more mature outlook than FOS ever will. From his interviews he presents as someone professional in his approach to his football.

 

[Stickitupthem]

I can’t understand why any of the first 3 picks don’t pick Ashcroft and keep bris honest they’d do it to Carlton in a heart beat

 

[BlueNath]

I can’t understand why any of the first 3 picks don’t pick Ashcroft and keep bris honest they’d do it to Carlton in a heart beat

Brissy and Tigers would have had a handshake agreement when Tigers landed pick 20. So if they get pick 2 I think it still stands. Plus I think you want to tell Lalor "you're the man" (or whoever they go with at #1), rather than "We rate Ashcroft as better than you, but hey... you're still pretty good! Welcome". Plus that stupid $10K bonus to the #1 pick compromises things... scap that AFL! $10K for a number one pick is loose chnge to them in the fullness of time

 

[BlueNath]

Exactly I don't have Draper in that bracket of
Lalor Smith and Fos and id even have Langford ahead of him
Fos or Smith 100% will be at Carlton and honestly we would be getting the equal best player in the draft at 3

I agree. Bizarrely, we find ourselves with no pressure on us. It is all on the Tigers and whoever ends up with pick 2. We get handed one of Lalor, FOS or Jagga - who are so hard to split. I love lalor as the striker-style mid which would transform our clearance game. But the quality of the engine-style mids in FOS and Jagga are just so tantalising. Just not sure what it means for Cerra long term (more a defensive mid without a second posi), unless we push Walsh to a wing in a Gulden-type role?

 

[GoBlues!]

I can’t understand why any of the first 3 picks don’t pick Ashcroft and keep bris honest they’d do it to Carlton in a heart beat

He won’t be called out by Richmond at pick 1. There’s some prestige and monetary benefit for the No.1 player and it deserves to go to the player Richmond deem to be the best.

After that it doesn’t really matter if a bid is made on Ashcroft between #2 and #7, the outcome is Brisbane will still need to use its picks 27, 34 and 42 (1,640 points) to match bids made between #2 and #7.

Brisbane will then need to use all its remaining picks to match a bid on its academy player Marshall tipped to go in the first round.

So expect a bid on Ashcroft between #2 and #7.

 

[Stickitupthem]

He won’t be called out by Richmond at pick 1. There’s some prestige and monetary benefit for the No.1 player and it deserves to go to the player Richmond deem to be the best.

After that it doesn’t really matter if a bid is made on Ashcroft between #2 and #7, the outcome is Brisbane will still need to use its picks 27, 34 and 42 (1,640 points) to match bids made between #2 and #7.

Brisbane will then need to use all its remaining picks to match a bid on its academy player Marshall tipped to go in the first round.

So expect a bid on Ashcroft between #2 and #7.

Hopefully 2

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

I can’t understand why any of the first 3 picks don’t pick Ashcroft and keep bris honest they’d do it to Carlton in a heart beat

As a club with upcoming academy, and F/S prospects over the next two years … we’d want to play nice when it comes to bidding.

 

[Stickitupthem]

As a club with upcoming academy, and F/S prospects over the next two years … we’d want to play nice when it comes to bidding.

Appreciate the position but it’s about time we started to get back to the ruthless club we were known as

 

[AndyNicka]

Appreciate the position but it’s about time we started to get back to the ruthless club we were known as

The sentiment is understandable, but the AFL is a business in which good faith is developed between teams and later paid back as an equal outcome exchange.

Pardon the pun but the dodos (dodoros) of the AFL world are becoming extinct. There's big opportunities for win/win situations if you begin to build rapport with other clubs.

 

[Stickitupthem]

I’m just an old dinosaur who is still living in the past when we were the go to club unfortunately

 

[BlueTongue]

The sentiment is understandable, but the AFL is a business in which good faith is developed between teams and later paid back as an equal outcome exchange.

Pardon the pun but the dodos (dodoros) of the AFL world are becoming extinct. There's big opportunities for win/win situations if you begin to build rapport with other clubs.

So... Draft tampering ?

 

[AndyNicka]

So... Draft tampering ?

Legal draft tampering

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

When deciding on who we pick I think a large part of it will be how our midfield looks in 4-5 years... Obviously next years impact is also critical but the future is still a priority.

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Lalor

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, FOS

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Draper

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Smith

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Smillie

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Langford

To me looking at those, once Cripps is gone we really lack that POD type outside of Cody Walker. Adding Smith is one that sticks out as a bit too vanilla to me.
High class talent but we may run into the same issue we face today with too much likeness across the midfield mix in that projected group.

Langford and Smillie look better in that group but once again, I'm not going near them as long as we have Cripps and Hewett. They'd have to play other roles until those two finish up imo.

Think to me the first 3 are still the best options, Jagga may be just as good next year or even better than the others, but looking ahead I think FOS, Lalor and Draper provide what we need most.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Im not so sure about Smillie.

Seems like the type of guy who would always use scissors to open a bag of chips.

Pass.

 

[Penetrator]

When deciding on who we pick I think a large part of it will be how our midfield looks in 4-5 years... Obviously next years impact is also critical but the future is still a priority.

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Lalor

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, FOS

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Draper

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Smith

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Smillie

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Langford

To me looking at those, once Cripps is gone we really lack that POD type outside of Cody Walker. Adding Smith is one that sticks out as a bit too vanilla to me.
High class talent but we may run into the same issue we face today with too much likeness across the midfield mix in that projected group.

Langford and Smillie look better in that group but once again, I'm not going near them as long as we have Cripps and Hewett. They'd have to play other roles until those two finish up imo.

Think to me the first 3 are still the best options, Jagga may be just as good next year or even better than the others, but looking ahead I think FOS, Lalor and Draper provide what we need most.

You don't have Ben Campo in the mix in any of your scenarios in the next couple of years ?

 

[Arr0w]

When deciding on who we pick I think a large part of it will be how our midfield looks in 4-5 years... Obviously next years impact is also critical but the future is still a priority.

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Lalor

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, FOS

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Draper

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Smith

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Smillie

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Langford

To me looking at those, once Cripps is gone we really lack that POD type outside of Cody Walker. Adding Smith is one that sticks out as a bit too vanilla to me.
High class talent but we may run into the same issue we face today with too much likeness across the midfield mix in that projected group.

Langford and Smillie look better in that group but once again, I'm not going near them as long as we have Cripps and Hewett. They'd have to play other roles until those two finish up imo.

Think to me the first 3 are still the best options, Jagga may be just as good next year or even better than the others, but looking ahead I think FOS, Lalor and Draper provide what we need most.

Ison being added, Walker is still the only real xfactor mid/forward, so I understand the interest in Lalor and or FOS

I still wouldn't be disappointed in Langford (Dawson like) as he adds a unique POD, or Smith or Draper despite being more pure mids do have burst/pace

Perhaps we look at a POD type at pick 38, or target that type next trade period

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

You don't have Ben Campo in the mix in any of your scenarios in the next couple of years ?

Not as a certain addition at this stage no. Kicking is way off AFL standard atm.

A wait and see in future years, if he gets his kicking up to par he'll be a good player for us.

 

[bradfisher14]

When deciding on who we pick I think a large part of it will be how our midfield looks in 4-5 years... Obviously next years impact is also critical but the future is still a priority.

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Lalor

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, FOS

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Draper

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Smith

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Smillie

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Langford

To me looking at those, once Cripps is gone we really lack that POD type outside of Cody Walker. Adding Smith is one that sticks out as a bit too vanilla to me.
High class talent but we may run into the same issue we face today with too much likeness across the midfield mix in that projected group.

Langford and Smillie look better in that group but once again, I'm not going near them as long as we have Cripps and Hewett. They'd have to play other roles until those two finish up imo.

Think to me the first 3 are still the best options, Jagga may be just as good next year or even better than the others, but looking ahead I think FOS, Lalor and Draper provide what we need most.

You think Jagga Smith is vanilla?

 

[Coona Blues]

When deciding on who we pick I think a large part of it will be how our midfield looks in 4-5 years... Obviously next years impact is also critical but the future is still a priority.

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Lalor

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, FOS

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Draper

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Smith

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Smillie

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Langford

To me looking at those, once Cripps is gone we really lack that POD type outside of Cody Walker. Adding Smith is one that sticks out as a bit too vanilla to me.
High class talent but we may run into the same issue we face today with too much likeness across the midfield mix in that projected group.

Langford and Smillie look better in that group but once again, I'm not going near them as long as we have Cripps and Hewett. They'd have to play other roles until those two finish up imo.

Think to me the first 3 are still the best options, Jagga may be just as good next year or even better than the others, but looking ahead I think FOS, Lalor and Draper provide what we need most.

Disrespectful post Don’t mind your resultant assertions, but there are more pieces at play.

You are forgetting our other 2024 draftee(s) as well as the Hollands boys, possibly Cowan, possibly Wilson, even possibly Kemp.

We may get Ben Campo for chump change, but the bloke has won/earned multiple MVP and BOG accolades in the very games these so called stars played in along the way. Decent stature and athleticism and deserves more respect than many afford him/ them(sorry Lucas)

We see who is available at three and pick the player deemed the best available with a view to complementing the current and future mix.

Likely FOS and a Lalor are gone. I have Smith and Draper as the candidates, but will support whoever our brains trust selects. Happy to debate Langford being pedestrian of Smillie not complementing Crippa and the likelihood Walker will assume the role in a timely manner.

Smith rightly draws comparisons with Mr Perpetual Motion Butters, Draper shows the burst, skills and competitiveness to add a POD to our group, and so on. It is not hard to imagine either in our mix.

 

[YeoShuey]

Jagga sure is overrated around here.

Really should be going in the 6-10 range of the draft. Shocking.

 

[Arr0w]

More I think about it, Draper has Jack Steven

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Jack Steven

Age

34

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.7

5star

K

12.7

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.5

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.8

4star

CL

2.5

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

4.8

5star

CL

0.8

3star

traits

 

[Arr0w]

Jagga sure is overrated around here.

Really should be going in the 6-10 range of the draft. Shocking.

Easily top 6 for me.

Overrated is Reid for me, smart, great hands, but lacks pace or penetration / punch by foot, a midfield version of Ginivan

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Ison being added, Walker is still the only real xfactor mid/forward, so I understand the interest in Lalor and or FOS

I still wouldn't be disappointed in Langford (Dawson like) as he adds a unique POD, or Smith or Draper despite being more pure mids do have burst/pace

Perhaps we look at a POD type at pick 38, or target that type next trade period

Can't see Ison playing on ball from the little of him I've watched. Would still prefer to see Cowan train with the mids to be a POD but can understand if he stays back with our aging veterans back there. Played some good footy as a junior on ball.