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Analysis 2024 National Draft
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Leaving no stones unturned in the back up key defender search
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I reckon there are at least half a dozen we would be tracking in SA. Catch up with Campo boys, Sid, Charlie Nicholls springs to mind as anither swingman type who may last until late draft, or rookie. Another group of good players, small forwards may be a rookie watch if they get through, Angus Clarke a very highly rated defender. Dodson would not be in our range.
Would love us to take multiple stabs at key position kids. West may be slightly under sized at the moment, but 194cm with “mongrel”, leaping enough to play ruck, he has 20 hitouts is two championship games apparently, and a strong body rather than the never ending supply of beanpoles the draft throws up these days. I am in in we get a shot at him as a rookie.
Just read the scouting notes from SANFL Colts GF, listing him at 195 cm, so growing boy, playing plenty of ruck minutes.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if that was part of the recruitment plan.
Plan - Drain SA talent!
The last time we did something like this worked out very very well
I've seen the comparison a few times and it described as though he's not a great runner. For someone who is just an ok runner, Dawson sure does get overlap handballs and spread from the congestion very well. It's not always about pure speed.
Similarly, Judd wasn't exactly the best kick around but would get a 20m burst from contest with a 50m kick put the defence into a scramble.
Another example is Dangerfield. Bog average kick but can kick it 60 after a 20m burst.
That 70m-80m player absolutely decimates a structure, regardless of kick accuracy.
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Dylan Alexander did a video about midfield archetypes which I thought was good which articulates this type of player as the "strike" mid
They are trying to punch through the stoppage/congestion and make metres.
Takes a rare athletic profile and you need defensive minded players to cover them because they are often leaving their man behind.
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Re watching SA V Vic Metro. Check out 4m mark of third quarter for a look at Draper(WOW) and West. Anyone doubting Ben C has no idea.
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He’s a big boy!!
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Woodville-West Torrens key forward Charlie West is a strong contested marker who attacks the ball with vigour.central.rookieme.com
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Jagga sure is the popular pick on here. Maybe, because many see him as the most likely of them all to end up in navy.
I do really like him and will not be disappointed at all if Austin calls out his name. However he does not have the toe of
Butters and seems to only have one position that he can play. Have been watching a lot of FOS highlights from his under-
age year. He looks like a totally different player, regularly racked up 25 to 30 possies and kicked goals in most games.
I can envisage him playing mostly across half-forward mostly next season and being a very lively and dangerous option for
us. Have to admit, the fact that he is a country boy and is Sams second cousin brings some nice synergy imo.
To me, he just has class, athleticism and is a hard worker. I really rate him highly, yet I too was underwhelmed with his 24
season. Draper is obviously an absolute jet as well. All three should go on to play 250 games plus. Cannot go wrong.
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I think we'll be making a big mistake if we select FOS. Will of course support the kid, but I think there is a clear 1 and 2 for us and he isn't it.
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The only question on him is his kicking. He'd play the role of a defensive mid/inside ball winner very well at this stage and he's strong as an ox over the ball. While we have Cripps and Hewett there his role is somewhat taken care of however.
For him to impact early on he'd need to become considerably more damaging on the outside, otherwise imo he'll do his apprenticeship in the VFL until he's good enough to overtake Cripps and Hewett/they slow down.
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What's your thinking here? I really can't figure myself out on this. FOS feels so decisive to me, he plays taller than he is which is nice, and has a really nice side step, but there is a lot that worries me, including his second efforts which I just hope isn't reflective of attitude. I can't tell if I'm watching his footage looking for positive traits, trusting that everyone is seeing something I'm not.
I think he has a high ceiling and a low floor. I think Jagga has a higher floor and atleast an equal ceiling, albeit they play quite different.
Draper similarly quite a different style. High ceiling, lowish floor.
But this time we have GW in the background observing
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I think he is one of the smartest kids I have seen. While he will never be quick, he should improve his running, similar to what Cripps has done
Possibly interviewing draper too
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I can see that you are very keen on Draper - can you please do a quick analysis on Draper vs Smith?
100 percent.
This was Judd to a tee, attacking burst player with not a lot of defensive side, also a very good field kick but very average set shot.
You back in his offensive qualities at the expense of defense.
There’s not much between Jagga and FOS in terms of toe, and even less with Butters based their 20m sprint times.
FOS posted 2.989s, Jagga 3.038s and Butters 3.015s, insignificant differences.
Probably more to do with perception SS and the way they play - Jagga extracting, distributing with short passes, running for overlap (hence greater possessions/game). FOS maybe runs more, longer kicks to gain metres and penetration, less give’n’go (fewer possessions/game)?
There is no urgency for any draftee to front up round 1. Not even pick 3.
If Ben and Lucas do a season in the twos before getting opportunity, so be it. Just hopefully we have a more competitive reserves team. Removing Mirkov and Akuei as well as a stop, start Marchy will improve things. Having warm bodies rather than half a dozen on extended rehab time also makes a difference. Playing returning seniors on limited minutes is a constant drain on the reserves unit.
We will have the Irish boys with L and (hopefully) P plates and more hopefully a couple of rangy young talls to integrate. Today’s discussion piece West would be good as he has a strong body as opposed to a bean pole. Lemmey and O’Keeffe should be much closer to maturity and provide some real physical presence. Will Hayes will add plenty if he plays the majority of the season in the seconds.
I have a similar feeling. A bit of “guilt” as there is no need to knock the kid, I just feel Draper or Smith are more suited to our list. I don’t see FOS as a genuine coalface mid, more the utility type bobbing up in front or behind the ball.
O’Sullivan’s peers love him, which leads me to question my assessment, but I have real doubts around work rate commitment.
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I agree in that I wouldn't be upset if we picked him, I think all things being equal he might be my favourite player in the draft. Just a shame it happens to be when we're looking for running profile otherwise I'd be all over him for out pick.
That was my thought as well C4, hopefully it turns out a positive situation if we do draft FOS, a bit of a Joel Selwood situation…..would be massive!!
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