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Analysis 2024 National Draft
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Jimmae
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Rests forward regularly
Got spelled at wing and HF when his hamstrings were in good nick
Has played in defence for us briefly and is arguably a better shout there than Cerra if we can solve for defensive midfield issues
Originally tore it up early in the AFL on the wing, regularly has had stints coming off HF at the bounce prior to the last 2 years, and still only looks at his best on ball when he gets to free wheel in the corridor with the ball gifted to him.
The writing is on the wall there.
We absolutely need to be more dynamic in midfield, just not sure FOS is the guy to really crack it open, or that we should ignore his lack of production given he was having issues with his fingers, not his legs.
He has so much work to do to become a full-time mid, and even then he might wind up slowing down as he adds mass.
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As it relates to the thread, nor am I. The 'idea' of FOS is clearly the best fit of anyone in this draft. Smooth moving goal scoring midfielder who can take a grab and is elite by foot... But I haven't seen anywhere near enough to be convinced.
That said I don't have anywhere near the same data or inside knowledge as our recruiting team so who knows maybe he's just been extremely unlucky.
Draper>Lalor>Smith>FOS still my order of preference.
If we were getting the 'finished product' versions of each I'd probably have FOS>Lalor>Draper>Smith
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Full season highlights for Harvey Langford. These highlights demonstrate what a consistently powerful and prolific season Langford has had, in terms of sheer performance level perhaps only matched by Jagga Smith. Deservedly named joint Larke medalist, and demonstrated his leadership traits in propelling both his Vic Country and Dandenong Stingrays teams to excellent seasons even if they did ultimately fall short of the major trophies. If he can overcome some concerns around his athletic profile, he could end up starring at the next level.
4flagsin5yrs
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Cuners has done a medical with Sydney!!
100%
Also, this whole idea that teams rotate heaps of players through the midfield is a bit of a myth.
Our issue is more the mix of players we have playing midfield (makes suggestions of putting Walsh on a wing even more absurd), not that we don't have enough players going through there.
Pretty much every team has 4-5 players that get 95% of the cbas. The model is usually 3 main guys who get >60% supported by 2 guys who get 20-40%. Or 4 main guys who get >50% supported by others who attend the odd bounce.
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Yeah I don't really agree on any of this bar 'he has traits to transfer to the middle' so I'll just leave it at that.
Kemp's biggest issue for me whether its playing back forward or mid is still his strength. Still youngish but he's got to improve that significantly, just as TDK has over the years.
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Kemp does not show enough intensity, concentration, and nous in his current role which leads to him being dropped to the VFL. I can’t see those aspects of his game magically increasing when we throw him into the role in the team with the highest level of pressure and scrutiny. If he wants midfield time, he needs to show it by dominating his current role rather the match committee gambling 4 premiership points on helping him to find his best position at AFL level.
Kemps turning circle is horrific…wonder how many time he was part of our poor defensive stoppages
some aren't fans of him in here
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Cripps has been tried as a forward option and he isn't near good enough for the role. He scores more goals drifting forward from the midfield.
Cerra a gun half back or wing now?
Walsh can't play wing or is he not one of the best mids in the comp at his best now?
I’ll preface my comments by saying I don't really understand the nuances around why clubs rank players where they do and why they think they are a good fit or not. I have enjoyed watching Langford’s highlight packages more than any other potential draftee at our range (by a long way) and based on that I would be more than happy if he was a Carlton player on 20/11.
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There is something about this guy that I just keep coming back too and saying could be the best of the group.
l would not discount the Tigers gaining pick 2 to make it a easy decision they get both.
Also makes sense for North to get two top 10 picks also with the quality in the top 10.
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Cal also said the Tigers are not desperate or pushing hard for pick 2 so might not happen
Only thing holding it back is Tigers not wanting to offer 2x top 10
Possibly but if they want both seems a logical decision .
They have so many top 25 picks, it makes sense if they cannot spilt Lalor & Fos.
This is my assessment based of the top 5 guys against attributes needed for a gun mid (worthy of a top 3 pick) and what we as the Blues need:
Keen to get thoughts on whether you would rank attributes differently and also what their defensive running ability is like as I haven’t seen enough game time to judge
FOS - if we pick him gee I hope this year (low possessions) was a blip due to injuries - I like his skills and his ability to play forward
Lalor - if he is available then grab him - 3rd tall forward who can play as impact midfielder why not. These guys are rare - they win Grand Finals
Smith & Draper - elite small mids but I think with Walsh, Cerra, OHollands, Binns - we got plenty of those types around the contests - Smith & Draper may be better but we need a POD
Langford - I like his elite disposal, that’s his POD to our midfielders, especially moving the ball on quickly with his left foot, he might not have burst speed but he has evasiveness and he has more endurance then Cripps. And he can play forward. If Lalor is gone I would take him next - he could be our next Wayne Johnston (left footed midfield/half forward)
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- Langford
- Draper
Keen to get thoughts on whether you would rank attributes differently and also what their defensive running ability is like as I haven’t seen enough game time to judge
FOS - if we pick him gee I hope this year (low possessions) was a blip due to injuries - I like his skills and his ability to play forward
Lalor - if he is available then grab him - 3rd tall forward who can play as impact midfielder why not. These guys are rare - they win Grand Finals
Smith & Draper - elite small mids but I think with Walsh, Cerra, OHollands, Binns - we got plenty of those types around the contests - Smith & Draper may be better but we need a POD
Langford - I like his elite disposal, that’s his POD to our midfielders, especially moving the ball on quickly with his left foot, he might not have burst speed but he has evasiveness and he has more endurance then Cripps. And he can play forward. If Lalor is gone I would take him next - he could be our next Wayne Johnston (left footed midfield/half forward)
| FOS | SL | JS | HL | SD | |
| In the game - Possessions | 8 | 8 | 10 | 9 | 9 |
| Kicking to advantage | 9 | 8 | 8 | 9 | 8 |
| Handballs to advantage | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 |
| Marking | 8 | 9 | 7 | 8 | 7 |
| Goals | 8 | 8 | 7 | 8 | 7 |
| Separation from contests - speed & evasion | 8 | 8 | 9 | 8 | 9 |
| Tackling | 8 | 8 | 7 | 8 | 7 |
| Defensive work | |||||
| Play alt position | 9 | 9 | 7 | 9 | 7 |
| Endurance | 9 | 8 | 9 | 9 | 9 |
| Total | 75 | 74 | 72 | 76 | 71 |
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Winning power ball would be easier
I think you've got FOS and SL too high in possessions, both should be 7's. Draper should be a 10 in separation from contest or FOS and SL should be 7's, Langford should be lower again. Draper is the best tackler of the lot, should be a 9. Lalor's endurance should probably be a 7. Also what alternative position could Harvey Langford play?
My recommended adjustments.
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If and a big if Lalor drops to 3 Austin will be talked about fir years what a outcome that would be
Harvey Langford appeared to be playing forward at times - he was taking marks in the forward line - and at times on a lead
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Langford isn't quick over 20, but once in stride, most players don't get a hold of him and his evasiveness certainly helps in this area
Exceptional hands, vision, disposal, beast overhead and safe shot at goal
What's more impressive, he is already mature beyond his years, knowing his strengths / limitations and working well within his lane
Really is a Dawson clone, what's not to like about this kid
Exceptional hands, vision, disposal, beast overhead and safe shot at goal
What's more impressive, he is already mature beyond his years, knowing his strengths / limitations and working well within his lane
Really is a Dawson clone, what's not to like about this kid
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