Analysis 2024 National Draft

[Aphrodite]

Broadcast Guide - Live Draft ...

1st Round tonight (20th Nov) from 7.00PM
2nd Round tomorrow night (21st Nov) from 7.00PM

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[Jimmae]

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Haynes is a KPD? He's never played there in his time at GWS so not sure about that one.

At the peak of his powers, he was hauling in 6-8 intercepts a game, 4-6 spoils, and over a contested mark a game.

In that era, he would be the more mobile intercepting type when Davis and Corr were fit, but he was the 2nd KPD when Corr was out of the team. GWS prefer him in that medium interceptor role, and he's never really bothered to bulk up, but he holds his own.

EDIT: clarified GWS' preference

 

[Jimmae]

3rd pick will probably be close to worthless if there are any compo picks

That pick will absolutely shift up through bids more than FA picks will shift it down.

There's little to indicate anyone we've got in our academy will go sooner than mid-to-late 2nd round, and as you know once we're past pick 36, they just absorb the next pick when a bid comes in.

I'd imagine we'll just attempt to pick in the top 40, then cashout when the bids start coming in unless we see an opportunity for a prospect.

Could easily wind up with all our next-gen prospects being rookies at best.

Amamzing the contrast with GWS here. They are absolutely stacked with first round small forwards.

Who? Name one.

 

[Stamos]

That pick will absolutely shift up through bids more than FA picks will shift it down.

There's little to indicate anyone we've got in our academy will go sooner than mid-to-late 2nd round, and as you know once we're past pick 36, they just absorb the next pick when a bid comes in.

I'd imagine we'll just attempt to pick in the top 40, then cashout when the bids start coming in unless we see an opportunity for a prospect.

Could easily wind up with all our next-gen prospects being rookies at best.

This was in relation to 2026.
If there’s a bid for Cody in the top 5, a late 3rd probably won’t have come in enough to cover for being pushed out by compo picks.

Next year when we’re picking later in the draft, probably will come in a bit. But late 3rds aren’t worth much in points anymore.

 

[LemmingMaster]

In my opinion, this thinking actually favours trading up to pick 3 rather than staying with 12 & 14 unless you expect us to select who turns out to be the best player available at our picks. There is a good chance that there will be two players who were available at 12 & 14 who combined have a much better career than Smith. But would we have picked them? Its unlikely.

Just as there are top 3 busts there are top 15 busts too (which are of course far more likely). It is too much to expect the LM team to simply draft players who far exceed the expected return of their draft position.

Jagga Smith v Reid and Hannaford for me.

It still slightly hurts that two of my personal favourites could have been selected, but Jagga is likely to be a great player.

 

[Jimmae]

This was in relation to 2026.
If there’s a bid for Cody in the top 5, a late 3rd probably won’t have come in enough to cover for being pushed out by compo picks.

Next year when we’re picking later in the draft, probably will come in a bit. But late 3rds aren’t worth much in points anymore.

Ah yup, we're probably looking to grab value in the 18-35 range for Walker.

 

[MITSUHIRATO]

Mic'd Up | Inside draft night as Camporeales, recruiters react

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One thing this video taught me is that it’s nice that rival clubs call each other ahead of time to let them know they will be bidding on a prospect of theirs.

Probably allows them a bit of additional time to make any necessary arrangements.

 

[MITSUHIRATO]

We’ve been in contact with Nathaniel Sulzberger according to his mother.

Not sure if it’s about a train on position or a move to the VFL team.

 

[DangerousD]

Makes for interesting debate

The debate should be more in depth than just 12 and 14 vs pick 3, when we had 12 and 14 we still had Kennedy and Owies to try and better our hand.

 

[teddy-hopkins]

Must admit to being bewildered at some of the bullshit on here.

Our list profile badly needed a young gun. We have that now. Late teen picks? May become afl players. May just be solid. They are gambles. Jagga is not.

Add Cody in 2 years and the profile of guns looks a lot better.

It’s SO hard to get access to top tier talent. So so hard.

I expected to see unanimous support for what the club did here but as usual the contrarians are in here buzz killing away.

I don’t give a shit about mid level players. The club will easily trade and FA them in the years ahead.

It’s top level talent that will make or break us. And injuries of course.

Getting Jagga is out of this world good for us.

We don’t have a depth problem now and there is none on the horizon. Squad is easily 30 deep. If we have to go beyond that it would be due to injuries and that simply can’t happen in a flag tilt.

So screw recruiting for depth. I’m delighted they went for premium talent. Delighted.

Agreed. Mid level players are getting easier to trade for. Top tier harder.

It's like trading in Sam Walsh level player. What would you have to give up for Walsh in a trade?

And next years first rounder will be another Moir type "first rounder" given the FS and Academy picks are projected to dominate again next year.

So we gave up pick #12 and #30ish for #3. Incredible really.

 

[teddy-hopkins]

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At the peak of his powers, he was hauling in 6-8 intercepts a game, 4-6 spoils, and over a contested mark a game.

In that era, he would be the more mobile intercepting type when Davis and Corr were fit, but he was the 2nd KPD when Corr was out of the team. GWS prefer him in that medium interceptor role, and he's never really bothered to bulk up, but he holds his own.

EDIT: clarified GWS' preference

He's not a key defender now and never has been. Are you confusing him with someone else? 192cm back flank Nick Haynes. 2020 AA HBF.

 

[Soapy V]

We don’t have a depth problem now and there is none on the horizon. Squad is easily 30 deep. If we have to go beyond that it would be due to injuries and that simply can’t happen in a flag tilt.

So screw recruiting for depth. I’m delighted they went for premium talent. Delighted.

IMO getting good young talent in improves our depth

Improved fitness and another year into Lord Moir Binns Ollie Cowan Wilson O’Keefe will add to our depth significantly

I was 50/50 on trading out 12 & 14 but if Smith works out anything like expected I couldn’t be happier

 

[ferrisb]

So is anyone going to pick up Dom Brew.

I'd be keen to give him a rookie spot!

Has been invited to train with the Bulldogs as a potential SSP pick.

 

[Jimmae]

He's not a key defender now and never has been. Are you confusing him with someone else? 192cm back flank Nick Haynes. 2020 AA HBF.

Medium defender is his best position, I'm just saying he's in the same category as Kemp when it comes to the kind of opponents he can hold, that's who he is replacing in our defence.

I'd be playing him ahead of Young.

 

[ferrisb]

The debate should be more in depth than just 12 and 14 vs pick 3, when we had 12 and 14 we still had Kennedy and Owies to try and better our hand.

If you include Kennedy and Owies, then you have to add pick 38 to pick 3, I think.

Hard to value what we got for Owies and/or what he was worth. Personally I don't think we were getting anything better than a 3rd for him in a standalone trade.

 

[ferrisb]

He's not a key defender now and never has been. Are you confusing him with someone else? 192cm back flank Nick Haynes. 2020 AA HBF.

I'd be playing Haynes as a 3rd tall / roaming interceptor.

BUT for someone who plays that as his primary role, he is more than serviceable as a proper KPD (if that's what the club needs/decides).

Ignoring his age (for this argument), he's a better key defender than any of McGovern, Kemp or Young IMHO.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

 

[Blue and Silver]

We’ve been in contact with Nathaniel Sulzberger according to his mother.

Not sure if it’s about a train on position or a move to the VFL team.

Liked him. Thought he would have been picked up.

Lacks a point of difference I suppose

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[YeoShuey]

This may be a controversial opinion, but I am thinking Ben will end up our best player from this draft long term, and may very well end up a Top 5 pick overall when reevaluated in a few years time.

 

[Arr0w]

This may be a controversial opinion, but I am thinking Ben will end up our best player from this draft long term, and may very well end up a Top 5 pick overall when reevaluated in a few years time.

Big call, but always like a bold prediction!

 

[YeoShuey]

Big call, but always like a bold prediction!

It is a bit bold but I can totally see it happening. I’m thinking similar to the 2020 Draft where Gulden went at Pick 32. I’d say Gulden is currently the best player from that draft, and like Ben, Geelong placed a bid on him which was matched.

Guess we will see in a few years time.

 

[ianh]

It is a bit bold but I can totally see it happening. I’m thinking similar to the 2020 Draft where Gulden went at Pick 32. I’d say Gulden is currently the best player from that draft, and like Ben, Geelong placed a bid on him which was matched.

Guess we will see in a few years time.

When Geelong have interest at the back end of the draft you know that's a good sign.

 

[ctwenty1]

It is a bit bold but I can totally see it happening. I’m thinking similar to the 2020 Draft where Gulden went at Pick 32. I’d say Gulden is currently the best player from that draft, and like Ben, Geelong placed a bid on him which was matched.

Guess we will see in a few years time.

Gulden was an academy player wasn’t he

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

This may be a controversial opinion, but I am thinking Ben will end up our best player from this draft long term, and may very well end up a Top 5 pick overall when reevaluated in a few years time.

If he gets his kicking up to scratch and continues to add to his strength over the ball he very well could be. Will be interested to see how his running develops, more of a long distance plodder at this stage but gets to the right spots consistently. Keen to see if he or his brother can develop into that real straight line power runner through the middle of the ground where he can burn off an opponent going forward.

All comes back to his kicking though imo. If he's worked on that over the break he'll see some huge improvements to his game.

 

[ianh]

That pick will absolutely shift up through bids more than FA picks will shift it down.

There's little to indicate anyone we've got in our academy will go sooner than mid-to-late 2nd round, and as you know once we're past pick 36, they just absorb the next pick when a bid comes in.

I'd imagine we'll just attempt to pick in the top 40, then cashout when the bids start coming in unless we see an opportunity for a prospect.

Could easily wind up with all our next-gen prospects being rookies at best.


Who? Name one.

Gothard and Jones both first round, as well as Toby Greene though I suppose he's more a medium forward.

 

[GT619]

This may be a controversial opinion, but I am thinking Ben will end up our best player from this draft long term, and may very well end up a Top 5 pick overall when reevaluated in a few years time.

how many have you had today