Analysis 2024 National Draft

[Aphrodite]

Broadcast Guide - Live Draft ...

1st Round tonight (20th Nov) from 7.00PM
2nd Round tomorrow night (21st Nov) from 7.00PM

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[Jimmae]

Gothard and Jones both first round, as well as Toby Greene though I suppose he's more a medium forward.

Gothard is probably the one. Jones was a mid as a junior and projected to play HF/wing to start, while Greene was originally drafted and played as a mid.

GWS are actually notorious for trying to convert mids into forwards, though it seems to have more been a feature of high draft picks and SOS' recruitment style than anything else.

 

[Arr0w]

GWS overpaid for Gothard

 

[LemmingMaster]

Gothard is probably the one. Jones was a mid as a junior and projected to play HF/wing to start, while Greene was originally drafted and played as a mid.

GWS are actually notorious for trying to convert mids into forwards, though it seems to have more been a feature of high draft picks and SOS' recruitment style than anything else.

Jones was a small forward at local level that did roam into the midfield.

GWS are drafting speed on speed with many of their players.

 

[circusdevil]

GWS overpaid for Gothard

Did they?
I thought they wanted both Leake and Gothard and ended up getting both of them. Does it really matter which order it was in? Clearly they were working off intel to take them where they did.

 

[bradfisher14]

Did they?
I thought they wanted both Leake and Gothard and ended up getting both of them. Does it really matter which order it was in? Clearly they were working off intel to take them where they did.

Gothard was considered a massive reach for pick 12 at the time and hasn't shown anything to suggest that evaluation was inaccurate.

 

[Arr0w]

Did they?
I thought they wanted both Leake and Gothard and ended up getting both of them. Does it really matter which order it was in? Clearly they were working off intel to take them where they did.

IMHO I thought he was only worth a 3rd round

 

[circusdevil]

IMHO I thought he was only worth a 3rd round

That's fair if that's where you saw him.
I recall them saying at the time that Gothard wasn't going to make it to their next pick and they were thrilled that Leake was still there as he was their 'other' choice at 12.

 

[Stamos]

Inside the draft: Deals that Tigers rejected, the 'it' player who six clubs chased

Callum Twomey takes a closer look at the wheeling and dealing behind the scenes at the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft

www.afl.com.au

The Blues ranked Jagga Smith the best player in the draft and breathed a sigh of relief several days out from proceedings when it became clear there would be no swap between North Melbourne and Adelaide, a move which would have given the Crows a call on Smith (and others) at pick No.2.

Carlton had been linked publicly to moving up the board for O'Sullivan and were happy to let that narrative play out knowing ball-winner Smith was their man. Harvey Langford was next in their line of the available players, along with Draper.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

I got a headache reading that article


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[Jimmae]

Inside the draft: Deals that Tigers rejected, the 'it' player who six clubs chased

Callum Twomey takes a closer look at the wheeling and dealing behind the scenes at the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft

www.afl.com.au

So my plan for a trade with the Tigers for them to land O'Sullivan and Lalor at 1 & 3 wasn't that far-fetched... thought so.

Whether they would have handed over 7 & 10 for the opportunity, different story. They really should have tried to get value out of their want to take Faull before the run of talls.

GWS had a very rigid draft in the end, and I wonder if they'll look back in disappointment in years to come. Dogs not far behind either, but Hynes was great value at 20.

 

[Bletch]

So my plan for a trade with the Tigers for them to land O'Sullivan and Lalor at 1 & 3 wasn't that far-fetched... thought so.

Whether they would have handed over 7 & 10 for the opportunity, different story. They really should have tried to get value out of their want to take Faull before the run of talls.

GWS had a very rigid draft in the end, and I wonder if they'll look back in disappointment in years to come. Dogs not far behind either, but Hynes was great value at 20.

huh?

...grab the Roos' No.2 pick, but it didn't tempt North.

The pick was also thrown up to Richmond in the lead-up to the draft, but the Tigers weren't interested in bundling any first-rounders together to land it.

If the Tigs weren't entertaining trading with North for pick 2, they were never going to trade with us for pick 3.

Also pretty clear from that article that we weren't looking to trade 3 down for two picks.

 

[bradfisher14]

So my plan for a trade with the Tigers for them to land O'Sullivan and Lalor at 1 & 3 wasn't that far-fetched... thought so.

Whether they would have handed over 7 & 10 for the opportunity, different story. They really should have tried to get value out of their want to take Faull before the run of talls.

GWS had a very rigid draft in the end, and I wonder if they'll look back in disappointment in years to come. Dogs not far behind either, but Hynes was great value at 20.

let it go bro

 

[circusdevil]

So my plan for a trade with the Tigers for them to land O'Sullivan and Lalor at 1 & 3 wasn't that far-fetched... thought so.

Whether they would have handed over 7 & 10 for the opportunity, different story. They really should have tried to get value out of their want to take Faull before the run of talls.

GWS had a very rigid draft in the end, and I wonder if they'll look back in disappointment in years to come. Dogs not far behind either, but Hynes was great value at 20.

Not at all far fetched .... other than the Tigers were in no way entertaining making the trade and neither were Carlton.

 

[GT619]

Inside the draft: Deals that Tigers rejected, the 'it' player who six clubs chased

Callum Twomey takes a closer look at the wheeling and dealing behind the scenes at the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft

www.afl.com.au

so fos was never in the picture inside the 4 walls and Langford was next in line after jag

 

[Stamos]

so fos was never in the picture inside the 4 walls and Langford was next in line after jag

I read that more as Langford ahead of Draper ("next in their line of available players"), rather than our number 2 ahead of Lalor and FOS.

 

[HyphensBack]

Very few players at NAB league start as genuine small forwards, they would have been midfielders at local level and have been taught forward craft and pressure, there is no reason we can’t do the same with some of our kids.

Smith

I will keep beating this drum
We think he will be too good for VFL but we have concerned can he be a full time mid in the seniors in his first year

Play as a small forward (40%) swapping into the mid field (40%)

 

[Blue__Balls]

let it go bro

It's important when you spitball an idea that doesn't come to pass that, weeks later, you find some tenuous reason to remind everyone that even if it didn't happen it could have maybe happened and therefore you're still right...

 

[katmanblue]

let it go bro

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[ItsAllAboutMe]

Smith

I will keep beating this drum
We think he will be too good for VFL but we have concerned can he be a full time mid in the seniors in his first year

Play as a small forward (40%) swapping into the mid field (40%)

The days of midfielders rotating with fwd. line players is well over, the work rate required to play as a small forward make it unfeasible. I would rather Smith learn his craft picking up the easy ball across half back like Daicos & Sheezel have before him.

 

[HyphensBack]

The days of midfielders rotating with fwd. line players is well over, the work rate required to play as a small forward make it unfeasible. I would rather Smith learn his craft picking up the easy ball across half back like Daicos & Sheezel have before him.

Smith just looks like one of those players that would get a few kicks in the forward half - crafty, high footy IQ

It would perhaps provide an option in an area we are very under equipped (none of our small forwards currently are elite or above average)

Plus also not have Smith thrown into every CBA early with an undersized body

Recognise it’s not a rest for him - still think he would only play 70-75% game time

We have plenty of half back options especially with Ollie Holland rumoured to be preparing for down back

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Smith just looks like one of those players that would get a few kicks in the forward half - crafty, high footy IQ

It would perhaps provide an option in an area we are very under equipped (none of our small forwards currently are elite or above average)

Plus also not have Smith thrown into every CBA early with an undersized body

Recognise it’s not a rest for him - still think he would only play 70-75% game time

We have plenty of half back options especially with Ollie Holland rumoured to be preparing for down back

IMO too risky to play an elite natural ball winner as a small forward where he could go long periods without touching the ball, could ruin his confidence.. As well as forward craft we need an elite level of pressure and an ability to lock the ball inside 50, something we were horrific at last year.. Cotters is the one i would look at, is crafty, elite work rate and pressure and finds goals.

 

[HyphensBack]

IMO too risky to play an elite natural ball winner as a small forward where he could go long periods without touching the ball, could ruin his confidence.. As well as forward craft we need an elite level of pressure and an ability to lock the ball inside 50, something we were horrific at last year.. Cotters is the one i would look at, is crafty, elite work rate and pressure and finds goals.

I know what you mean and I agree some mids like Dow struggle when they don’t get the pill but I reckon Smith (massive accumulator mid) might not have that issue

Cotters to me is your defensive half forward, he can run all day and stop the opposition attacking half back and think that role is either Fogarty or cottrell

but the role for Smith could be the high half forward who gets up to any contest around the ground as an extra mid and plays as a connector to our forwards - his 30-40m kicks (to leading forwards) or 15-20m kicks to released wings would be better than our current 40-50 blind hacks

 

[ianh]

I know what you mean and I agree some mids like Dow struggle when they don’t get the pill but I reckon Smith (massive accumulator mid) might not have that issue

Cotters to me is your defensive half forward, he can run all day and stop the opposition attacking half back and think that role is either Fogarty or cottrell

but the role for Smith could be the high half forward who gets up to any contest around the ground as an extra mid and plays as a connector to our forwards - his 30-40m kicks (to leading forwards) or 15-20m kicks to released wings would be better than our current 40-50 blind hacks

Is that 40-50m blind hacks or 40-50 per gam blind hacks? Either way tend to agree.

 

[HyphensBack]

Is that 40-50m blind hacks or 40-50 per gam blind hacks? Either way tend to agree.

Both

 

[TerryWallet]

Smith just looks like one of those players that would get a few kicks in the forward half - crafty, high footy IQ

It would perhaps provide an option in an area we are very under equipped (none of our small forwards currently are elite or above average)

Plus also not have Smith thrown into every CBA early with an undersized body

Recognise it’s not a rest for him - still think he would only play 70-75% game time

We have plenty of half back options especially with Ollie Holland rumoured to be preparing for down back

I agree. I see Jagga and Walsh forming a 1-2 punch as mid/high forwards. Walsh looked great in that mid/high forward role when we were at our peak i think around mid-late 23 against GWS, Sydney etc? Then he started having back issues and started getting turned into a slog mid(somewhat thru necessity with injuries to others and lack of other running mids).

One of the big positives i see with Jagga is the weight he will take off Walshy as another genuine gun running mid. I think they will genuinely chop each other out beautifully. I see them doing a fair bit of rotating thru mid and high half forward pushing up to the contest.

One of the interesting things to look out for, how we use Walshy smarter. Jagga picked himself on ability, but his "fit" to our team is, i think, how his assets help unlock using Walshy smarter and better.

Plenty to look for over the intra clubs and early games.