Was that the one straight after he kicked it? Can I ask just how the **** the umpire that was standing right there didn't pay a free kick?
Autopsy 2024 Rd 17 Blues take a giant step backwards
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Lots of things went wrong tonight.
Despite our dominance in the first, we were unable to get any pressure around the footy inside 50. We were scoring on the back of centre clearance dominance.
Once the Giants got on top in that area, we got absolutely spanked with our inability to put any pressure and maintain any territory when we did get it inside 50. Giants had the outnumber and were able to get it clear with ease. Essential to our game and we couldn't get it at all.
2 inside 50 tackles to 11 said it all at half time. Another poster mentioned it didn't look like a Carlton game, and that, alongside clearance win, is the cornerstone of our game. We turned it around in the last but too little, too late.
As poor as Curnow was for 3 quarters, he did manage to get it to ground most times, but the opposition just waltzed it away with ease. On Curnow, he has zero closing speed out there. Not sure if injured but looks so slow in a straight line.
Disappointed with the decision to play Cottrell and Fantasia in the same side. Clear that the MC didn't want to drop Fantasia on the back of 4 goals. The hard/correct call would have been to either bring Cottrell back through the teams, or drop Fantasia due to team balance.
Briggs got well on top in the run by not allowing TDK to get out the front of contest. Did it very questionably at times, not bothering to contest the footy at all. I'd be giving AFL House a ring and enquiring about a few.
Kemp just couldn't go with Hogan. Some very poor efforts, but at the same time he's undersized against a very smart footballer. Would have liked us to try a different matchup, he was demoralised by the end of it.
All that said, not too worried with the result. Just goes to show how quickly we fall away if we don't bring a high level of contest and pressure. Voss reaffirms the message, and we get the chance to go again, still sitting fairly comfortably in second spot. We know our identity, and it's clear what happens when we stray from that.
Despite our dominance in the first, we were unable to get any pressure around the footy inside 50. We were scoring on the back of centre clearance dominance.
Once the Giants got on top in that area, we got absolutely spanked with our inability to put any pressure and maintain any territory when we did get it inside 50. Giants had the outnumber and were able to get it clear with ease. Essential to our game and we couldn't get it at all.
2 inside 50 tackles to 11 said it all at half time. Another poster mentioned it didn't look like a Carlton game, and that, alongside clearance win, is the cornerstone of our game. We turned it around in the last but too little, too late.
As poor as Curnow was for 3 quarters, he did manage to get it to ground most times, but the opposition just waltzed it away with ease. On Curnow, he has zero closing speed out there. Not sure if injured but looks so slow in a straight line.
Disappointed with the decision to play Cottrell and Fantasia in the same side. Clear that the MC didn't want to drop Fantasia on the back of 4 goals. The hard/correct call would have been to either bring Cottrell back through the teams, or drop Fantasia due to team balance.
Briggs got well on top in the run by not allowing TDK to get out the front of contest. Did it very questionably at times, not bothering to contest the footy at all. I'd be giving AFL House a ring and enquiring about a few.
Kemp just couldn't go with Hogan. Some very poor efforts, but at the same time he's undersized against a very smart footballer. Would have liked us to try a different matchup, he was demoralised by the end of it.
All that said, not too worried with the result. Just goes to show how quickly we fall away if we don't bring a high level of contest and pressure. Voss reaffirms the message, and we get the chance to go again, still sitting fairly comfortably in second spot. We know our identity, and it's clear what happens when we stray from that.
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Charlie has nauseating aerobic capacity, I agree with you completely
Let him roam, McKay is too big and strong and is just as capable of taking marks as Charlie. Sure, McKay isn’t anywhere near as mercurial or clean when the ball hits the deck but he is very effective nonetheless
Gotta have the ability to do something different with Charles, way too good to be beaten like he was today
Kennedy and Newman did well tonight.
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If i’m going to look on the bright side, with Brisbane more than likely beating Adelaide at home tomorrow, our loss knocks Collingwood out of the 8.
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Has there been a game where Weitering hasn't hobbled?
Despite the knocks he gets, I feel we don't look after him very well.
Despite the knocks he gets, I feel we don't look after him very well.
Kemp was completely out gunned and thought changing the match up was on the cards but didn’t happen.
Cottrell is a favourite but should have played in the 2’s.
Fantasia should have been sub bit Owies.
Pitto should have played with TDK resting forward at times, rucking Cripps and Kennedy and McKay is being too cute.
Charlie should have moved up the ground and Williams should have played from the goal square.
So essentially there were lots of mistakes and tactical errors which when combined with a lack of intensity resulted in getting completely out played for half the game.
I find our lack of grit interstate to be weird.
It’s always talked up as being hard to win interstate, coaches, players are always saying it but if we can’t get in the right frame of mind then we will always struggle.
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Cottrell is a favourite but should have played in the 2’s.
Fantasia should have been sub bit Owies.
Pitto should have played with TDK resting forward at times, rucking Cripps and Kennedy and McKay is being too cute.
Charlie should have moved up the ground and Williams should have played from the goal square.
So essentially there were lots of mistakes and tactical errors which when combined with a lack of intensity resulted in getting completely out played for half the game.
I find our lack of grit interstate to be weird.
It’s always talked up as being hard to win interstate, coaches, players are always saying it but if we can’t get in the right frame of mind then we will always struggle.
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Curnow get on your bloody bike... watch Cameron play... I'm over his rubbish efforts
Newman was good Cowan and Acres ok also.
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It was exactly the same with Adelaide earlier this year.
The writing was on the wall. Giants were always winning this.
Better hope the media don't blow too much wind up the dogs' back during the week.
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Cuners to replace Ollie on the wing next week must be seriously considered. Not ideal, but best option we have.
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Unless we're planning a draw dons % means ****ing nothing
The criticism of Ollie Hollands is warranted. At the moment, his game lacks tricks other than endurance. He lacks strength in the contest, poor disposal and gets caught with the ball
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Walsh and Cerra were poor. Not good enough leaving it to Cripps. Teams know they can sit on Walsh now. He needs to work through that better.
Still 2nd and our destiny is in our own hands. Must bounce back next week. Confident we will.
Still 2nd and our destiny is in our own hands. Must bounce back next week. Confident we will.
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We lost Weitering to a bad cork against these guys in Round 6 as well... and we were behind on the scoreboard when that happened too. How did we keep Jesse Hogan quiet while we rolled over the top of them? Well... it was Lewis Young.
Nights like tonight I wonder if he should be the sub on a regular basis. We don't seem to go for impact players in that role anyway, and being able to introduce him into the game would enable us to shuffle the magnets more effectively should we lose one of Weitering, De Koning, Curnow or McKay to injury.
I wish it wasn't so hard to pick Young with Weitering there. But it feels like we need to do something - Kemp was overmatched tonight, without pressure upfield. McGovern can't do it. I don't think Marchbank fixes this.
Nights like tonight I wonder if he should be the sub on a regular basis. We don't seem to go for impact players in that role anyway, and being able to introduce him into the game would enable us to shuffle the magnets more effectively should we lose one of Weitering, De Koning, Curnow or McKay to injury.
I wish it wasn't so hard to pick Young with Weitering there. But it feels like we need to do something - Kemp was overmatched tonight, without pressure upfield. McGovern can't do it. I don't think Marchbank fixes this.
Yes but too many ran through his tackles it ended up really hurting the team
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Have you noticed alll teams do it at the end of the game ??
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we played poorly, lost by 2 goals, away from home, against a team most had as premiership favourites not long ago…
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TDK went from dominant to dormant after qtr time. Briggs changed his approach and we then started to lose clearances. The giants then used their leg speed on the outside to chop us up.
Way too many passengers tonight. I could name them but wont. But our pressure around the ball was not good enough and we let too many easy inside 50s or paniced and turned it over. Credit to the Giants, they rode their luck with fast movement and some unbelievably favourable umpriring calls.
Hogan too good for Kemp, who made some critical errors. Overall our defence let too many goals in. Surprised we didnt move Charlie back when they had their run on and Weitering was missing.
We still scored enough, mainly through Crippa's brilliance (+100) but this time we lose. Thought owies was good when he came on.
Way too many passengers tonight. I could name them but wont. But our pressure around the ball was not good enough and we let too many easy inside 50s or paniced and turned it over. Credit to the Giants, they rode their luck with fast movement and some unbelievably favourable umpriring calls.
Hogan too good for Kemp, who made some critical errors. Overall our defence let too many goals in. Surprised we didnt move Charlie back when they had their run on and Weitering was missing.
We still scored enough, mainly through Crippa's brilliance (+100) but this time we lose. Thought owies was good when he came on.
His attitude has always been excellent. But he is not ready. He fumbles the ball and loses a lot of contests, especially ground ball gets. He probably still needs another 2 years.
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It does show we fight until the end..
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