Injury 2024 Season Geelong Cats Injury Thread

[dazbroncos]

I don’t think so (but didn’t ask specifics)…it is same thing he had last year and they are very confident that a screw will prevent it coming back (they held off doing it first time hoping it wouldn’t re occur). He was in moon boot at VFL and I had a chat

(By the way it was great to see a good group of our young ones supporting the VFL - Toby, Dempsey, Holmes, Miers, O Henry, Lawson, Mitch Edward’s - also looks to be at risk of not playing rest of the year! - and young at heart Blitz! They looked very tight - we are in good hands)

WTF happened now? He's been good though.

GO Catters

 

[Geminicatz01]

Foot surgery on the cards for Geelong ruckman Toby Conway which would put a line through his season and leave the run home to Sam De Koning + Rhys Stanley

1

Rhys Stanley

Age

33

Ht

200cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

6.4

4star

CL

3.4

5star

HO

27.6

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.5

3star

CL

5.0

5star

HO

21.5

5star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

6.4

4star

CL

3.0

5star

HO

33.0

5star

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The Cats hope Cam Guthrie is over the worst of Achilles injury. Now need to see how he responds to increased training loads

 

[CHAWKTS]

WTF happened now? He's been good though.

GO Catters

Back issues. Still working through the scans so not 100% sure how long recovery


Seems common for those big fellas

 

[CHAWKTS]

The issue was a hot spot in the navicular - that's as per Toby before the Hawthorn game

Unless the visits to the additional specialists identified a different issue

No i think it was same issue but resulted in different treatment - lets hope this one works!

 

[fpm84]

Latest injury list:

Conway done for season
Bruhn a test for this week
Cam Guthrie three weeks
Hawkins 3-5

 

[Jimmy Yamazaki]

Hopefully they put Guth through the VFL this time before bringing him back in the AFL.

3 weeks rehab, 2 weeks VFL, bring him back for the last game of the year vs WCE at KP before finals.

 

[cats_09]

This may be a stupid question, but what's the difference between a 'hot spot' and a 'stress fracture'?

As per Krock:

Toby Conway’s season is over after being booked in for surgery on a foot injury that has sidelined the young Geelong ruck for the past month.

Scans have revealed a stress fracture in his navicular bone, with the Cats expecting the 21-year-old to be ready for the start of the 2025 pre-season.

 

[cats_09]

Geelong Cats GMHBA Health Update – Round 19 ​

Player	Injury	Expected Return
Tanner Bruhn	Scaphoid	Test
Oli Wiltshire	Pelvis	2 weeks
Cameron Guthrie	Achilles	3 weeks
Tom Hawkins	Foot	3-5 weeks
Mitch Edwards	Back	TBC
Toby Conway	Foot	Season (2025)

GMHBA Health Update | Round 19

Toby Conway will undergo surgery to heal a stress fracture in his navicular bone sidelining him for the remainder of the season.

www.geelongcats.com.au

 

[dazbroncos]

This may be a stupid question, but what's the difference between a 'hot spot' and a 'stress fracture'?

As per Krock:

Toby Conway’s season is over after being booked in for surgery on a foot injury that has sidelined the young Geelong ruck for the past month.

Scans have revealed a stress fracture in his navicular bone, with the Cats expecting the 21-year-old to be ready for the start of the 2025 pre-season.

Vdubs

Can you shed light on the difference?

I think the hot spot is inflammation and pain prior to stress fracture and stress fracture is once the cracking in bone has commenced but im not 100% sure - there are different grades of "damage" to the area / hot spot.

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[Hinkley29]

Loch Ness going back into hibernation.

I am shocked to be sitting here

 

[_Game_]

Vdubs

Can you shed light on the difference?

I think the hot spot is inflammation and pain prior to stress fracture and stress fracture is once the cracking in bone has commenced but im not 100% sure - there are different grades of "damage" to the area / hot spot.

GO Catters

My understanding of it (Physio) is it's based on a continuum. A "hot spot" is a stress reaction, like you said it's the beginnings of irritation with inflammation, swelling and pain. If you continue to stress the bone without adequate recovery it develops into a fracture.

I can get more in-depth if people want but that is the simple explanation as I understand.

 

[CHAWKTS]

Hopefully they put Guth through the VFL this time before bringing him back in the AFL.

3 weeks rehab, 2 weeks VFL, bring him back for the last game of the year vs WCE at KP before finals.

Going to be interesting.

If Bruhn comes in and finds really good form. We have danger, Stewart, Bruhn Atkins and Bowes (who is better play mid imo) supported by Blitz and Holmes. That is a rotation of 7 players through 3 possessions. 5 if you say Holmes is predominantly back and blitz wing/ruck…. And I have left out Clark

Guthrie would want to be 2022 version for us to disrupt what we currently have (unless our form drops off over next 5 weeks)

 

[Kitcat]

Going to be interesting.

If Bruhn comes in and finds really good form. We have danger, Stewart, Bruhn Atkins and Bowes (who is better play mid imo) supported by Blitz and Holmes. That is a rotation of 7 players through 3 possessions. 5 if you say Holmes is predominantly back and blitz wing/ruck…. And I have left out Clark

Guthrie would want to be 2022 version for us to disrupt what we currently have (unless our form drops off over next 5 weeks)

If the team is playing well, and Guthrie finds form, he would make a good sub for the finals. He can play halfback, mid and forward. If he is really playing well, Scott will start him. His fitness for a full game is questionable after a long foot injury.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Hopefully they put Guth through the VFL this time before bringing him back in the AFL.

3 weeks rehab, 2 weeks VFL, bring him back for the last game of the year vs WCE at KP before finals.

Love Guth, but he'd want to play a blinder in that last game to convince us and more importantly the MC.

Simply can't afford to carry him into a finals series underdone, or at the level he's shown this year.

If you could promise me he's 2022 Guthrie then I'd put a tenner on us for the flag right now...but we don't know if that player exists anymore.

Clark is likely going out for Bruhn, and after that we don't have many (if any) spots left.

If he's just at the level he's shown this year, then it's probably only Tuohy who he could replace for output & flexibility.

 

[Pollywaffle]

Hopefully they put Guth through the VFL this time before bringing him back in the AFL.

3 weeks rehab, 2 weeks VFL, bring him back for the last game of the year vs WCE at KP before finals.

We probably don’t need him anymore. Our mids are working ok and Bruhn s still to come. Can’t really see him making much of an impact hanging around the pack for cheapies as he often does. Sadly maybe his best is also behind him…

 

[Johanpetro]

We probably don’t need him anymore. Our mids are working ok and Bruhn s still to come. Can’t really see him making much of an impact hanging around the pack for cheapies as he often does. Sadly maybe his best is also behind him…

IF he’s healthy and back to his best (big if) then he offers something that no other mid in our team does. Offense with very good skills. All of our mids are basically clones. Defensive with poor skills.

 

[Gunf]

We probably don’t need him anymore. Our mids are working ok and Bruhn s still to come. Can’t really see him making much of an impact hanging around the pack for cheapies as he often does. Sadly maybe his best is also behind him…

Guthrie coming back in could well be better playing in a defensive position allowing Holmes to be released into the mids/wing more.

It is all a moot point until we see him playing and see how close he can get to his 2022 form because on that form he would be our best mid.

 

[catempire]

Bruhn a test 4 weeks after the prediction of a 4-6 week injury.

Medical miracles again

 

[Mr Meow]

IF he’s healthy and back to his best (big if) then he offers something that no other mid in our team does. Offense with very good skills. All of our mids are basically clones. Defensive with poor skills.

Bowes, Bruhn, Holmes and Dangerfield aren't defensive at all.

Stewart has good skills.

 

[Gunf]

Hmm even if Bruhn is given the all clear this week i would be tempted to give him one more week off to make sure he is cherry ripe

 

[Vdubs]

Vdubs

Can you shed light on the difference?

I think the hot spot is inflammation and pain prior to stress fracture and stress fracture is once the cracking in bone has commenced but im not 100% sure - there are different grades of "damage" to the area / hot spot.

GO Catters

My understanding of it (Physio) is it's based on a continuum. A "hot spot" is a stress reaction, like you said it's the beginnings of irritation with inflammation, swelling and pain. If you continue to stress the bone without adequate recovery it develops into a fracture.

I can get more in-depth if people want but that is the simple explanation as I understand.

That's about it daz.
Hot spot is reaction, can be non-specific and usually seen on MRI or Bone scan.
If a CT scan is done and shows it to be a crack(fracture) the hot spot was in fact a stress fracture.
But it can also be that continuum- hot spot, stress reaction, stress fracture, and the worst is complete fracture.
A fracture from a stress fracture is pretty devastating.(worse than a new complete fracture from trauma)

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Not the worst news regarding Conway if he gets a full pre season in. Mission accomplished with him this season giving him a handful of games.

Needs to get into the gym and bulk up over pre season as he was often pushed aside by some of the more mature rucks.

Come back stronger and fitter in 25

 

[Johanpetro]

Bowes, Bruhn, Holmes and Dangerfield aren't defensive at all.

Stewart has good skills.

What, Dangerfield isn’t defensive?

Also I’m talking about having both. None of those players you mentioned are great kicks bar bowes but he’s not as good as Guth

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Not the worst news regarding Conway if he gets a full pre season in. Mission accomplished with him this season giving him a handful of games.

Needs to get into the gym and bulk up over pre season as he was often pushed aside by some of the more mature rucks.

Come back stronger and fitter in 25

I'll believe it when I see him lathered in sunscreen contesting hit outs in January

 

[Mr Meow]

What, Dangerfield isn’t defensive?

Also I’m talking about having both. None of those players you mentioned are great kicks bar bowes but he’s not as good as Guth

Dangerfield is our best attacking weapon.

If you're talking about 2022 Guthrie, then sure. But Tuohy was also a composed, deadly ball user 2 years ago. We need to actually know Cam still has it.