List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

giantroo · Oct 4, 2024

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result

Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4 to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

The Nostradamus · 2024-10-15T11:17:49+1100

with baker gone reckon dockers pick 11 will now be traded for a future first to gain more warner collateral next year

they will use 10 and 18 for bolton

giantroo · 2024-10-15T11:17:58+1100

Flawed Genius · 2024-10-15T11:18:01+1100

Sphynx said:
Backing our system, staying the course and trying to build a core group of players around the clear ELITE prospects we have is not sitting on our ass

What about giving them elite players with big game experience and 150-200 games of nous and knowledge to learn off?

Roosurgence · 2024-10-15T11:18:04+1100

Heaps of fun said:
Ball is in Brady's court to come up with a worse trade than the Eagles'.

Brady……. Mission Accepted!

brodielindrea · 2024-10-15T11:18:15+1100

did i cook?

NMFC give: pick 2

MELB give: pick 5/pick 9

NMFC give: pick 44

SYD give: Luke Parker

NMFC give: future first, pick 25

GC give: pick 13, pick 23

NMFC give: pick 23, future third

WB give: Caleb Daniel, pick 48

NMFC give: pick 5, pick 13

PA give: Dan Houston

Flawed Genius · 2024-10-15T11:18:31+1100

giantroo said:

Diabolical. West Coast are ****ed.

Shermanator · 2024-10-15T11:19:26+1100

Sphynx said:
Do we get a trophy for that?

Or does it automatically mean there's a waterfall of players coming to the club?

No.

I hope to god, Carlton or Collingwood save some of us from the Houston recruitment.

It would be an utter waste of our only assets to make us a chance to contend for a flag.

Trading away one future pick is going to cost us a chance at a flag?...

Flawed Genius · 2024-10-15T11:20:15+1100

brodielindrea said:
did i cook?

NMFC give: pick 2

MELB give: pick 5/pick 9

NMFC give: pick 44

SYD give: Luke Parker

NMFC give: future first, pick 25

GC give: pick 13, pick 23

NMFC give: pick 23, future third

WB give: Caleb Daniel, pick 48

NMFC give: pick 5, pick 13

PA give: Dan Houston

We trade #2, our F1 and F3, #25, #44 for Houston, Parker, Daniel & #9?

Gross.

DesertRoo · 2024-10-15T11:20:30+1100

Sphynx said:
Backing our system, staying the course and trying to build a core group of players around the clear ELITE prospects we have is not sitting on our arse.

This has to be the number 1 priority.

You know what will ensure we stay shit? Spending significant draft capital and recruiting someone 8 years older than this core of players who is long retired when they peak. In a position we have invested significant draft capital ourselves the last 4 years.

I have no idea why some are so allergic to attempting to trying to develop the significant talent we have on our list. Even in these positions.

Goater and Hardeman have barely scratched the surface at the club, yet we have to bring in not 1, not 2, but 3 players (Fisher, Daniel, Houston) in this position (Not to mention our Captain players there!!!). As well as having the ability to play both Harry Sheezel and Colby McKercher there if required.

If they aren't good enough, they aren't good enough. We replace them then. We don't even know yet.

We have so many other priorities than a player of this age, in this position.

Here's another scenario - We recruit Houston and Daniel (ontop of Fisher last year).

Goater and Hardeman have complete breakout seasons, what then?

Sing it louder for the people in the back...

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We can't defend up and down the ground, a cbf isn't going to change our fortunes, why would we waste so much capital on this.
walk away Brady,
or keep them in the loop and pull out last minute so they can't deal with anyone else, f-port

BrownPaperBag · 2024-10-15T11:21:08+1100

Sphynx said:
Backing our system, staying the course and trying to build a core group of players around the clear ELITE prospects we have is not sitting on our ass,

You know what will ensure we stay shit? Spending significant draft capital and recruiting someone 8 years older than this core of players who is long retired when they peak. In a position we have invested significant draft capital ourselves the last 4 years.

I have no idea why some are so allergic to attempting to trying to develop the significant talent we have on our list.

Goater and Hardeman have barely scratched the surface at the club, yet we have to bring in not 1, not 2, but 3 players (Fisher, Daniel, Houston) in this position. As well as having the ability to play both Harry Sheezel and Colby McKercher there if required.

If they aren't good enough, they aren't good enough. We replace them then. We don't even know yet.

We have so many other priorities than a player of this age, in this position.

Here's another scenario - We recruit Houston and Daniel (ontop of Fisher last year).

Goater and Hardeman have complete breakout seasons, what then?

In that scenario fisher plays twos pretty simple.

We need to take the heavy lifting off the kids and allow them to develop to the fullest, at present we run the risk of pushing them to play reactive conservative football in survival mode. Augmenting them with mature talent isn’t as bad as you make iut

Sphynx · 2024-10-15T11:21:58+1100

Flawed Genius said:
What about giving them elite players with big game experience and 150-200 games of nous and knowledge to learn off?

Who are we talking about? Houston? He's not Luke Hodge is he? Who Brisbane acquired for a packet of chips btw.

You get these players for nothing, not for big value. See Luke Parker and Jack Darling.

Is Hardeman going to learn more off Houston than LDU, or Sheezel, or Larkey, or Xerri? Possibly, because of the position.

But at what cost?

We aren't devoid of elite prospects ourselves and Houston can't teach young players how to perform in big games, you have to experience it yourself.

BrownPaperBag · 2024-10-15T11:22:10+1100

brodielindrea said:
did i cook?

NMFC give: pick 2

MELB give: pick 5/pick 9

NMFC give: pick 44

SYD give: Luke Parker

NMFC give: future first, pick 25

GC give: pick 13, pick 23

NMFC give: pick 23, future third

WB give: Caleb Daniel, pick 48

NMFC give: pick 5, pick 13

PA give: Dan Houston

Do that but not daniel

TurnoverMerchant · 2024-10-15T11:22:51+1100

Sphynx said:
Here's another scenario - We recruit Houston and Daniel (ontop of Fisher last year).

Goater and Hardeman have complete breakout seasons, what then?

That would mean we have some good depth and a proper awesome half back line?

archereleven · 2024-10-15T11:22:53+1100

Shermanator said:
Trading away one future pick is going to cost us a chance at a flag?...

The campaigner is absolutely unhinged

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GoRoos2023 · 2024-10-15T11:23:51+1100

ChopChopDigDig said:
I think we can all agree, no matter what happens in the next couple days, at least we're not West Coast.

I actually didn't think it was that bad; they slid back 9 spots and got Baker and Owies. My understanding is that in this year's drafts, there isn't a significant difference between pick 2 and 10 anyway.

GS WARRIORS · 2024-10-15T11:23:55+1100

Devski said:
Brady right now after watching the WCE trade stealing the dumb trade trophy:

We missed out on the wooden spoon again, no way Brady's lets the Eagles get away with the wooden spoon of trade week.

The Warlord · 2024-10-15T11:24:21+1100

West Coast must be wishing they had Brady back.

Heaps of fun · 2024-10-15T11:24:46+1100

Sphynx said:
Goater and Hardeman have complete breakout seasons, what then?

I reckon we'd play Goater, Hardeman, Houston and Daniel. All are versatile, sounds good!

Shermanator · 2024-10-15T11:25:15+1100

GS WARRIORS said:
Who hear was happy about the Polec trade at the time?

I was shattered. I feel the same about getting Houston for a F1 (and maybe more).

Dan Houston isn't a lazy, one-sided, left footing mercenary like Polec.

He's a dual AA with some of the best foot skills in the land.

Comparing the two is like peak Elle McPherson vs Mrs Mangles from Neighbours..

GoRoos2023 · 2024-10-15T11:25:15+1100

Sphynx said:
Backing our system, staying the course and trying to build a core group of players around the clear ELITE prospects we have is not sitting on our arse.

This has to be the number 1 priority.

You know what will ensure we stay shit? Spending significant draft capital and recruiting someone 8 years older than this core of players who is long retired when they peak. In a position we have invested significant draft capital ourselves the last 4 years.

I have no idea why some are so allergic to attempting to trying to develop the significant talent we have on our list. Even in these positions.

Goater and Hardeman have barely scratched the surface at the club, yet we have to bring in not 1, not 2, but 3 players (Fisher, Daniel, Houston) in this position (Not to mention our Captain players there!!!). As well as having the ability to play both Harry Sheezel and Colby McKercher there if required.

If they aren't good enough, they aren't good enough. We replace them then. We don't even know yet....

We have so many other priorities than a player of this age, in this position.

If this was a young KPP, a young small forward or forward half player like Bolton, different story.

Here's another scenario - We recruit Houston and Daniel (ontop of Fisher last year).

Goater and Hardeman have complete breakout seasons, what then?

Mate you met Clarko and discussed this?

Tell us what do you think his motivation to do this is?

Themanbun · 2024-10-15T11:25:40+1100

ChopChopDigDig said:
I think we can all agree, no matter what happens in the next couple days, at least we're not West Coast.

My brother, please do not tempt fate.

GS WARRIORS · 2024-10-15T11:25:48+1100

The Warlord said:
West Coast must be wishing they had Brady back.

Let's wait and see what he does first.

JGreezy · 2024-10-15T11:26:43+1100

Sphynx said:
Backing our system, staying the course and trying to build a core group of players around the clear ELITE prospects we have is not sitting on our arse.

This has to be the number 1 priority.

You know what will ensure we stay shit? Spending significant draft capital and recruiting someone 8 years older than this core of players who is long retired when they peak. In a position we have invested significant draft capital ourselves the last 4 years.

I have no idea why some are so allergic to attempting to trying to develop the significant talent we have on our list. Even in these positions.

Goater and Hardeman have barely scratched the surface at the club, yet we have to bring in not 1, not 2, but 3 players (Fisher, Daniel, Houston) in this position (Not to mention our Captain players there!!!). As well as having the ability to play both Harry Sheezel and Colby McKercher there if required.

If they aren't good enough, they aren't good enough. We replace them then. We don't even know yet....

We have so many other priorities than a player of this age, in this position.

If this was a young KPP, a young small forward or forward half player like Bolton, different story.

Here's another scenario - We recruit Houston and Daniel (ontop of Fisher last year).

Goater and Hardeman have complete breakout seasons, what then?

What then? Well, we'd be in an awesome position, with depth of talent and if we are 100% fit then we can even push a Goater or Hardeman up into the wing to challenge those guys for a spot.

Maybe it's just me but I'm not too scared of a scenario where we have 3-4 awesome HBFs who can also play on the wing.

I'm much more worried about being shit for 2-3 more years and we lose the current optimistic vibes that seem to exist in the playing group and we start leaking players.

New_Roo · 2024-10-15T11:26:46+1100

GS WARRIORS said:
Who hear was happy about the Polec trade at the time?

I was shattered. I feel the same about getting Houston for a F1 (and maybe more).

Houston and Polec are worlds apart... only common ground is both victorians playing for port

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Psicosis · 2024-10-15T11:27:26+1100

Gabelich saying Pick 25 for Caleb Daniel is still a real chance.

F***ing hell.

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