List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

giantroo · Oct 4, 2024

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Daniel Rioli	Richmond	Trade	Gold Coast	Gold Coast receive Richmond's Daniel Rioli 17 Daniel Rioli Age 27 Ht 179cm Wt 78kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 11.2 3 K 5.8 2 HB 5.4 4 M 2.7 3 T 3.2 5 MG 179.2 3 D 8.1 2 K 4.9 2 HB 3.3 2 M 2.0 2 T 2.6 4 MG 144.9 3 D 9.0 3 K 3.8 2 HB 5.2 4 M 0.8 1 T 3.8 5 MG 160.2 3 , R4 (51,61,70,76) Picks Richmond receive GC's R1(6), R2(23) Picks
Shai Bolton	Richmond	Trade	Fremantle	Fremantle receive Richmond's Shai Bolton 29 Shai Bolton Age 25 Ht 176cm Wt 77kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 12.3 3 K 6.9 3 HB 5.4 4 M 2.8 3 T 2.9 4 CL 1.4 4 D 12.7 3 K 9.2 4 HB 3.5 2 M 3.0 3 T 2.7 4 CL 1.8 4 D 9.2 3 K 4.6 2 HB 4.6 4 M 2.0 3 T 2.6 4 CL 0.0 1 , R1(14), 2025 R3 Pick. Richmond receive Fremantle's R1(10,11,18) Picks
Harry Sharp	Brisbane & Melbourne	Trade	Melbourne	Melbourne receives Brisbane's Harry Sharp, 2025 R3 pick (tied to Brisbane) Brisbane receives Melbourne's 2024 R3(49), 2025 R3 pick (tied to Essendon).
Dan Houston Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 Joe Richards Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 John Noble 9 John Noble Age 27 Ht 180cm Wt 72kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.3 4 K 9.2 4 HB 7.1 4 M 3.5 4 T 2.0 4 MG 186.1 3 D 14.2 3 K 7.7 3 HB 6.5 4 M 3.2 3 T 1.8 3 MG 149.7 3 D 18.8 5 K 11.0 4 HB 7.8 5 M 4.0 4 T 2.2 4 MG 229.8 4	Port Adelaide Gold Coast Collingwood Gold Coast Collingwood	Trade	Collingwood Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Gold Coast	Port Adelaide receives GC's R1(13),GC R2(29,36), GC R3(50) Picks, Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 , Joe Richards, Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 Gold Coast receives Collingwood's 2025 F1, PA's 2025 F1, PA R2(39) Collingwood receive Dan Houston 5 Dan Houston Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 18.2 5 K 11.8 4 HB 6.4 4 M 4.9 5 T 3.0 5 MG 289.2 4 D 17.6 4 K 11.6 4 HB 6.0 3 M 3.3 3 T 3.4 4 MG 319.9 5 D 16.6 4 K 12.4 5 HB 4.2 4 M 7.0 5 T 2.6 4 MG 279.8 5 , PA R4(58)
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4 to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Brisbane Lions trade Harry Sharp and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Brisbane) to Melbourne for its 2024 Round 3 pick (currently 49) and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Essendon).
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Collingwood get Houston and Pick 58 and give up: a future first round pick, Joe Richards to Port and John Noble to Gold Coast

Port get Jack Lukosius, Richards, Rory Atkins, picks 13, 29, 36 and 50 in this year’s draft while letting Houston go to Collingwood, their future first round pick, pick 39 in this year’s goes to Gold Coast and pick 58 goes to Collingwood.

Gold Coast get Noble, a future first round pick from each of Collingwood and Port Adelaide, and pick 39 (received from Port), while the Suns send Lukosius and Atkins, picks 13, 29 and 50 to Port Adelaide.
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St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Moti · 2024-10-16T22:58:10+1100

Be interesting how the Tigers want to play this.

Could be a larger deal like this:

NM: 2, F1
Tigers: 6, 11, 18, 20

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NMFC TID · 2024-10-16T22:58:39+1100

berniemccarthy said:
Daniel’s job is to get it to McKercher who can get it to Larkey Parker Sheezel Zurhaar Curtis or Darling. He doesn’t break the lines himself but he gets it to someone who does.

This guy gets it

Makeshift Park · 2024-10-16T22:59:12+1100

So we started with 2 too many players.

Delistings:
Hamish Free
Hugh Greenwood
Bigoa Nyuon
Tyler Sellers
Liam Shiels
Curtis Taylor
Tarryn Thomas

Added:
Darling
Parker
Daniel
Konstanty

By my maths, that means we have one list spot free?

If we're taking three at the draft + Stevens, then Drury, Harvey and Laz are all gone, unless George is an LTI, yeah?

DocSholl · 2024-10-16T23:01:58+1100

Shermanator said:
Draft Pick Junkies just had a coronary.

Agree, thankfully our track record of finding talent via other means is excellent

Lomas · 2024-10-16T23:03:13+1100

Makeshift Park said:
So we started with 2 too many players.

Delistings:
Hamish Free
Hugh Greenwood
Bigoa Nyuon
Tyler Sellers
Liam Shiels
Curtis Taylor
Tarryn Thomas

Added:
Darling
Parker
Daniel
Konstanty

By my maths, that means we have one list spot free?

If we're taking three at the draft + Stevens, then Drury, Harvey and Laz are all gone, unless George is an LTI, yeah?

Is our list space being reduced by 2 though?

Makeshift Park · 2024-10-16T23:03:21+1100

DocSholl said:
I'd cry tbh

I hope its over now.

Go Roos

LuvtheKangas · 2024-10-16T23:04:03+1100

Makeshift Park said:
So we started with 2 too many players.

Delistings:
Hamish Free
Hugh Greenwood
Bigoa Nyuon
Tyler Sellers
Liam Shiels
Curtis Taylor
Tarryn Thomas

Added:
Darling
Parker
Daniel
Konstanty

By my maths, that means we have one list spot free?

If we're taking three at the draft + Stevens, then Drury, Harvey and Laz are all gone, unless George is an LTI, yeah?

I believe that we still have the 2 extra rookie spots under the AFL "assistance" package, which might enable one or two of them to be retained.

The Nostradamus · 2024-10-16T23:04:29+1100

Makeshift Park said:
So we started with 2 too many players.

Delistings:
Hamish Free
Hugh Greenwood
Bigoa Nyuon
Tyler Sellers
Liam Shiels
Curtis Taylor
Tarryn Thomas

Added:
Darling
Parker
Daniel
Konstanty

By my maths, that means we have one list spot free?

If we're taking three at the draft + Stevens, then Drury, Harvey and Laz are all gone, unless George is an LTI, yeah?

thats right but pass on stevens keep cooper as a rookie

george we would do as a lti after the draft and bring in a few train ons over summer for an ssp spot

Makeshift Park · 2024-10-16T23:05:15+1100

LuvtheKangas said:
I believe that we still have the 2 extra rookie spots under the AFL "assistance" package, which might enable one or two of them to be retained.

Lomas
No that's factored in.

We were two over because we had two LTIs.

koshari · 2024-10-16T23:05:40+1100

chickenonachain said:
Just remember guys it’s not Daniel’s fault we gave pick 25 for

Steal of the century given we traded a similar pick for ccj.

Samsquanch · 2024-10-16T23:09:02+1100

Lomas said:
Fun fact, they a called ‘nibble pies’ in Warrnambool.

Fair enough - they have a lot of weirdos in that neck of the woods.

I don't recall that term (nibble pies) ever being used for party pies. Do you Horace? I know of Clark's pies. I know of Chittick's pies being the Warrnambool thing though. Clark's were from 'out of town'.

The Weekly Times says the term has been around for ages.

Lomas · 2024-10-16T23:09:24+1100

Makeshift Park said:
Lomas
No that's factored in.

We were two over because we had two LTIs.

Cheers.

Shagga is all Class · 2024-10-16T23:09:41+1100

Sphynx said:
Honestly, sell this recruitment to me for Pick 25?

Not sure about sell but the last 2 pick 25s, Harry Demattia and Lewis Hayes, have yet to play a game.

They year before Richmond had 5 picks in the top 30 and whilst it is still early, look to have blown their wad.

We just picked up some known quantities which might have turned that 54 point lead against Collingwood into an actual 54 point win and LDU might have signed the week after.

We do have a pick 26 on our list. His name is Brayden George.

Lomas · 2024-10-16T23:11:42+1100

Samsquanch said:
Fair enough - they have a lot of weirdos in that neck of the woods.

I don't recall that term (nibble pies) ever being used for party pies. Do you Horace? I know of Clark's pies. I know of Chittick's pies being the Warrnambool thing though. Clark's were from 'out of town'.

The Weekly Times says the term has been around for ages.

Brady is a bit different, I thought it might have significance for trade ‘nibbles’.

Sphynx · 2024-10-16T23:14:22+1100

Shagga is all Class said:
Not sure about sell but the last 2 pick 25s, Harry Demattia and Lewis Hayes, have yet to play a game.

They year before Richmond had 5 picks in the top 30 and whilst it is still early, look to have blown their wad.

We just picked up some known quantities which might have turned that 54 point lead against Collingwood into an actual 54 point win and LDU might have signed the week after.

We do have a pick 26 on our list. His name is Brayden George.

And 10 of the 22 of this years All Australians were picked at 25 or lower.

Ichiro #51 · 2024-10-16T23:14:51+1100

Sphynx said:
Honestly, the amount of people on here that are mouth pieces for the club is hilarious.

They must simply look at Wikipedia and see an All Australian Jacket and Best and Fairest from checks 5 years ago next season. Ben Brown was a Coleman medal contender only 1 season removed, that's how long ago that was.

Daniel averages 13 meters per disposal. 13.

Some people are making out like he's Darren Jarman. LMAC had a better kicking efficiency and effective kick ratio than he did last season and he moved the ball a hell of a lot further per disposal. I'll have to re-check some of the dumps during the year, but I believe he was listed throughout the year in CD's worst kicks vs expected kick rating on some week to week analysis'.

And people loved to hang shit on Colby on this board at periods of last season. Their reactions are going to be fairly comical when they discover Daniel moves the ball 40% less per possession than Colby, who some hung a heap of shit on for his give and goes and chip kicks.

He doesn't run with the ball, he is a spot up mark/kick type that is a complete defensive liability that opposition sides actively try to make the 3rd forward and medium forward mismatch against. It's why the Dogs replaced him with a few fringe VFL types who actually can break zone defences and defend in the air.

He actually used to be quite a good interceptor in his first 4-5 years in the league, that's disappeared in the second half of his career as he's just become an unaccountable small half back.

And he's joining one of the worst defences in the league, what could go wrong?

He's also 29 years old in the middle of next season and has got progressively worse year on year since his peak in 2020 as that AA/B&F winner.

The fact he was also on $1,500,000 over the next two seasons, is 29 years old next year, in the Dogs VFL team or a sub for much of the year and the evenness of this draft, makes this the absolute deal of the century for them. Twomey is absolutely spot on, daylight robbery and one every club would make in an instant for a 29 year old at this stage of their careers. A salary dump for a fringe player on a back ended deal, who has been on a year on year decline for 4 years and not at all required anymore and been replaced, is just...

We had every single bit of leverage in this deal. The only thing going for the Dogs was he was contracted, yet at $750,000 PA it was as plain as day they would blink and move him at the end for whatever they could get.

I was never apposed to his recruitment, if the price was right. IF the price was right, He's a fantastic trainer, was a good leader at underage level and has a good footy brain. He's developed a fair few bad habits sitting as a loose half back flanker since his Rising Star and following years however.

This should have been Pick 66 or a F4 type deal when factoring his toxic contract for their TPP.

I sincerely hope we play him off a wing or even half forward and not half back. The game has gone past his type of player at half back.

Your devotion to Champion Data BS
is at Glen Luff levels. That worked an absolute treat for us.

Samsquanch · 2024-10-16T23:15:06+1100

Lomas said:
Brady is a bit different, I thought it might have significance for trade ‘nibbles’.

I'll let Horace be the judge.

I can't believe SpiderBurton22 brought up a food reference in such a momentous thread as this in any case. What was he thinking?

Devil Fish · 2024-10-16T23:16:08+1100

The Lone Latic said:
With Port absolutely getting a below par return for a contracted dual AA player all I can say is I feel like they've been hit by the karma bus for what they pulled with the JHF deal given he was contracted too. And rightly so as well

Wardlaw and Goad for JHF…..it does stink doesn’t it?

Lomas · 2024-10-16T23:19:58+1100

Samsquanch said:
I'll let Horace be the judge.

I can't believe SpiderBurton22 brought up a food reference in such a momentous thread as this in any case. What was he thinking?

Yes, he brought it up

archereleven · 2024-10-16T23:28:15+1100

Flawed Genius said:
Our Danish/Estonian academy producing the goods though. Exciting times

Why hasn't Snoz amassed a heap of shit picks for Tauru? Shirley, he's in our Danish academy??

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spurs · 2024-10-16T23:33:09+1100

Sphynx said:
And 10 of the 22 of this years All Australians were picked at 25 or lower.

It won’t be pick 25 after concessions to other clubs.

Lomas · 2024-10-16T23:36:12+1100

Sphynx said:
And 10 of the 22 of this years All Australians were picked at 25 or lower.

But not 10 picked at 25….

King Hansen · 2024-10-16T23:39:36+1100

trooroo4life said:
Gonna sign off on this trade period with this;

Did we overpay on Daniel? Yes. Would I have preferred to take 25 to the draft? Yes.

But at the end of the day I’m sick of turning up and losing every week. Comes in and provides good ball movement from the back half. We move Colby up the ground where he can damage going inside 50 and kick long goals from 50 and be a far more dangerous threat for us.

We get Parker in to provide much needed leadership. I can’t wait to see Wardlaw after working with Parker for a while. He should be great for Sheez too, help mould him into the next skipper.

Konstanty is a free hit. He brings forward pressure which we’ve needed for years. He obviously has a lot of work to do, but he’s going to get an opportunity to show if he’s cut out for the level. Seeing a spot he can fill might spur him on to push harder.

Darling, wasn’t keen but he’s a roo now and just hope it works positively for us.

All in all, forget the price. They are roos, let’s win some f*cking football games. Bring on the draft and then hopefully a happier 2025 season.

Well said. Stop sooking about pick 25 to those that can't get over the Daniel trade. The guy is a gun. It'll be pick 30 and we'd probably pick the next Spicer, Lazy, Will Walker or an injury prone George anyway.

hellas_johnny · 2024-10-16T23:54:05+1100

We have 3 senior spots 1 rookie spot left. Club will surely look to trade with Richmond?

hilly · 2024-10-16T23:54:54+1100

The Warlord said:
If he can split 2 well, then it's a brilliant exchange period.

What are your expectations here, 6 and ? (assuming Richmond).

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