List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

giantroo · Oct 4, 2024

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Daniel Rioli	Richmond	Trade	Gold Coast	Gold Coast receive Richmond's Daniel Rioli 17 Daniel Rioli Age 27 Ht 179cm Wt 78kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 11.2 3 K 5.8 2 HB 5.4 4 M 2.7 3 T 3.2 5 MG 179.2 3 D 8.1 2 K 4.9 2 HB 3.3 2 M 2.0 2 T 2.6 4 MG 144.9 3 D 9.0 3 K 3.8 2 HB 5.2 4 M 0.8 1 T 3.8 5 MG 160.2 3 , R4 (51,61,70,76) Picks Richmond receive GC's R1(6), R2(23) Picks
Shai Bolton	Richmond	Trade	Fremantle	Fremantle receive Richmond's Shai Bolton 29 Shai Bolton Age 25 Ht 176cm Wt 77kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 12.3 3 K 6.9 3 HB 5.4 4 M 2.8 3 T 2.9 4 CL 1.4 4 D 12.7 3 K 9.2 4 HB 3.5 2 M 3.0 3 T 2.7 4 CL 1.8 4 D 9.2 3 K 4.6 2 HB 4.6 4 M 2.0 3 T 2.6 4 CL 0.0 1 , R1(14), 2025 R3 Pick. Richmond receive Fremantle's R1(10,11,18) Picks
Harry Sharp	Brisbane & Melbourne	Trade	Melbourne	Melbourne receives Brisbane's Harry Sharp, 2025 R3 pick (tied to Brisbane) Brisbane receives Melbourne's 2024 R3(49), 2025 R3 pick (tied to Essendon).
Dan Houston Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 Joe Richards Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 John Noble 9 John Noble Age 27 Ht 180cm Wt 72kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.3 4 K 9.2 4 HB 7.1 4 M 3.5 4 T 2.0 4 MG 186.1 3 D 14.2 3 K 7.7 3 HB 6.5 4 M 3.2 3 T 1.8 3 MG 149.7 3 D 18.8 5 K 11.0 4 HB 7.8 5 M 4.0 4 T 2.2 4 MG 229.8 4	Port Adelaide Gold Coast Collingwood Gold Coast Collingwood	Trade	Collingwood Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Gold Coast	Port Adelaide receives GC's R1(13),GC R2(29,36), GC R3(50) Picks, Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 , Joe Richards, Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 Gold Coast receives Collingwood's 2025 F1, PA's 2025 F1, PA R2(39) Collingwood receive Dan Houston 5 Dan Houston Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 18.2 5 K 11.8 4 HB 6.4 4 M 4.9 5 T 3.0 5 MG 289.2 4 D 17.6 4 K 11.6 4 HB 6.0 3 M 3.3 3 T 3.4 4 MG 319.9 5 D 16.6 4 K 12.4 5 HB 4.2 4 M 7.0 5 T 2.6 4 MG 279.8 5 , PA R4(58)
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4 to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Brisbane Lions trade Harry Sharp and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Brisbane) to Melbourne for its 2024 Round 3 pick (currently 49) and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Essendon).
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Collingwood get Houston and Pick 58 and give up: a future first round pick, Joe Richards to Port and John Noble to Gold Coast

Port get Jack Lukosius, Richards, Rory Atkins, picks 13, 29, 36 and 50 in this year’s draft while letting Houston go to Collingwood, their future first round pick, pick 39 in this year’s goes to Gold Coast and pick 58 goes to Collingwood.

Gold Coast get Noble, a future first round pick from each of Collingwood and Port Adelaide, and pick 39 (received from Port), while the Suns send Lukosius and Atkins, picks 13, 29 and 50 to Port Adelaide.
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St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Lomas · 2024-10-16T23:58:27+1100

hilly said:
What are your expectations here, 6 and ? (assuming Richmond).

I think they are most likely to do trades involving next year as well.

Mute Point · 2024-10-17T00:00:13+1100

Roos1991 said:
If we're any good, Fisher will play 70% VFL next year.

Let's see what shape he rocks up to day 1 of pre season this year.
It would want to be a lot better than how he presented day 1 last year.

Horace · 2024-10-17T00:03:07+1100

Samsquanch said:
Fair enough - they have a lot of weirdos in that neck of the woods.

I don't recall that term (nibble pies) ever being used for party pies. Do you Horace? I know of Clark's pies. I know of Chittick's pies being the Warrnambool thing though. Clark's were from 'out of town'.

The Weekly Times says the term has been around for ages.

Never heard that terminology Samsquanch Pretty sure Clarks are baked in Mortlake.

Roostorm · 2024-10-17T00:10:26+1100

God he’s a bitter and twisted pr&&## of a man….
Club should never ever let him back anywhere when we progress….
Moan bitch sook sulk
Ch*&$ almighty if we split pick two he’ll moan
If we don’t he’ll moan
God ld love to see in a presser someone call him out and tell him to pi&$$ off..
It’s become his obsession and he’s so friggen blinded by it everyone can see it…
Just a complete waste of space shell of a human….

Night all

The Talent Scout · 2024-10-17T00:46:20+1100

Jonnoo said:
Almost have to split pick 2 now

Well, after getting updates at work from my port supporter colleague, I'm happy we now have the experience and leadership to teach and help the kids but 25 for Caleb is a bit rich but thinking about it all the teams seemed to be acting a little crazy so it was pay it or walk away.

I guess we were always going to pay it, as for the "almost have to split pick 2 now", after that, there is no almost, we get a good deal and split it and trade in our future first but not for a crap pick, we've got our players on Will's whiteboard, where they are intended to go and what picks we will end up with is going to be so interesting, we might not know until the live draft gets underway.

The Talent Scout · 2024-10-17T00:47:52+1100

chubbspeterson said:
There goes our key forward in the draft.

Not if we get him in the first round.

scottywiper · 2024-10-17T00:50:44+1100

Wasn't that bloke on Twitter saying we were working on something huge? Good call! Lol

LuvtheKangas · 2024-10-17T00:55:17+1100

scottywiper said:
Wasn't that bloke on Twitter saying we were working on something huge? Good call! Lol

You don't rate the Konstanty acquisition as huge, Scotty?

Spud11 · 2024-10-17T01:12:50+1100

Roostorm said:
God he’s a bitter and twisted pr&&## of a man….
Club should never ever let him back anywhere when we progress….
Moan bitch sook sulk
Ch*&$ almighty if we split pick two he’ll moan
If we don’t he’ll moan
God ld love to see in a presser someone call him out and tell him to pi&$$ off..
It’s become his obsession and he’s so friggen blinded by it everyone can see it…
Just a complete waste of space shell of a human….

Night all

Bartel is cool

the big lebowski · 2024-10-17T01:13:02+1100

Sphynx said:
Well technically in 2024:

Fisher - Better kicking efficiency
Fisher - Took more kicks on average per disposal.
Fisher - On average kicked it twice as far per kick at a better disposal efficiency
Fisher - Averaged slightly more clangers/turnovers per disposal.
Fisher - Higher AFL rating

Realistically though Daniel didn’t play the role fisher played in 2024.

As we are bringing in Daniel to be the no 1 distributor off half back, taking over from fisher, can you compare say Daniel in 2022 vs Fisher in 2024

Caleb Daniel and Zac Fisher AFL Stats Comparison

Caleb Daniel and Zac Fisher AFL Stats Comparison.

www.footywire.com

That tells me he’s a solid upgrade on fisher. Especially surprising was the 1.1 running bounces vs 0.6. Overall metres gained was basically the same.

Agree pick 25 is more than we should have paid, but I’m certain we knew that and wanted him anyway.

They are after rapid improvement after all

Spud11 · 2024-10-17T01:28:02+1100

Cheers Brady. I think you’re doing a good job

Tas · 2024-10-17T01:35:18+1100

Roostorm said:
God he’s a bitter and twisted pr&&## of a man….
Club should never ever let him back anywhere when we progress….
Moan bitch sook sulk
Ch*&$ almighty if we split pick two he’ll moan
If we don’t he’ll moan
God ld love to see in a presser someone call him out and tell him to pi&$$ off..
It’s become his obsession and he’s so friggen blinded by it everyone can see it…
Just a complete waste of space shell of a human….

Night all

I think it is understandable that he has reservations, he did give the club a C for the trade period and could have been a B-, he liked Parker but wasn't sure the others would have a lot of impact.

I think the other two raised some good points.

We will see, I think if we can get a good split of 2 and especially if we bring in future 1st from next year either before or during the draft then I think it has potential to being a great trade/draft for us, but I feel we need a lot more than just one kid from this draft pool, even if it comes at the expense of next year.

Event Horizon · 2024-10-17T01:38:30+1100

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chubbspeterson · 2024-10-17T02:00:45+1100

The Talent Scout said:
Not if we get him in the first round.

True. Wait and see what we do. Either teams didn't want futures or all signs point to us trading the F1 and/or splitting 2.

Istanbul Roo · 2024-10-17T02:09:00+1100

Sphynx said:
And 10 of the 22 of this years All Australians were picked at 25 or lower.

And on the night, the pick will most likely be around 30 after academy picks etc. How many All Australians were picked between 25 and 30?

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