List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[NMFC TID]

Daniel’s job is to get it to McKercher who can get it to Larkey Parker Sheezel Zurhaar Curtis or Darling. He doesn’t break the lines himself but he gets it to someone who does.

This guy gets it

 

[Makeshift Park]

So we started with 2 too many players.

Delistings:
Hamish Free
Hugh Greenwood

1

Hugh Greenwood

Age

32

Ht

190cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.9

4star

K

8.8

3star

HB

8.1

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

6.8

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

17.4

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

8.9

5star

CL

5.6

5star

D

16.4

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

2.2

3star

T

7.6

5star

CL

4.4

5star

Bigoa Nyuon
Tyler Sellers
Liam Shiels

14

Liam Shiels

Age

33

Ht

184cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.2

5star

K

11.7

4star

HB

8.5

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.9

5star

CL

3.4

5star

D

17.4

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

1.9

4star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.8

5star

Curtis Taylor

5

Curtis Taylor

Age

24

Ht

188cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

No current season stats available

D

6.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

Tarryn Thomas

26

Tarryn Thomas

Age

24

Ht

190cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

5.7

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

3.3

5star

CL

0.9

3star

D

7.8

2star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

1.3

1star

T

3.2

4star

CL

0.2

2star

D

12.8

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

0.4

3star

Added:
Darling
Parker
Daniel
Konstanty

By my maths, that means we have one list spot free?

If we're taking three at the draft + Stevens, then Drury, Harvey and Laz are all gone, unless George is an LTI, yeah?

 

[DocSholl]

Draft Pick Junkies just had a coronary.

Agree, thankfully our track record of finding talent via other means is excellent

 

[Lomas]

So we started with 2 too many players.

Delistings:
Hamish Free
Hugh Greenwood
Bigoa Nyuon
Tyler Sellers
Liam Shiels
Curtis Taylor
Tarryn Thomas

Added:
Darling
Parker
Daniel
Konstanty

By my maths, that means we have one list spot free?

If we're taking three at the draft + Stevens, then Drury, Harvey and Laz are all gone, unless George is an LTI, yeah?

Is our list space being reduced by 2 though?

 

[Makeshift Park]

I'd cry tbh

I hope its over now.

Go Roos

 

[LuvtheKangas]

So we started with 2 too many players.

Delistings:
Hamish Free
Hugh Greenwood
Bigoa Nyuon
Tyler Sellers
Liam Shiels
Curtis Taylor
Tarryn Thomas

Added:
Darling
Parker
Daniel
Konstanty

By my maths, that means we have one list spot free?

If we're taking three at the draft + Stevens, then Drury, Harvey and Laz are all gone, unless George is an LTI, yeah?

I believe that we still have the 2 extra rookie spots under the AFL "assistance" package, which might enable one or two of them to be retained.

 

[The Nostradamus]

So we started with 2 too many players.

Delistings:
Hamish Free
Hugh Greenwood
Bigoa Nyuon
Tyler Sellers
Liam Shiels
Curtis Taylor
Tarryn Thomas

Added:
Darling
Parker
Daniel
Konstanty

By my maths, that means we have one list spot free?

If we're taking three at the draft + Stevens, then Drury, Harvey and Laz are all gone, unless George is an LTI, yeah?

thats right but pass on stevens keep cooper as a rookie

george we would do as a lti after the draft and bring in a few train ons over summer for an ssp spot

 

[Makeshift Park]

I believe that we still have the 2 extra rookie spots under the AFL "assistance" package, which might enable one or two of them to be retained.

Lomas
No that's factored in.

We were two over because we had two LTIs.

 

[koshari]

Just remember guys it’s not Daniel’s fault we gave pick 25 for

Steal of the century given we traded a similar pick for ccj.

 

[Samsquanch]

Fun fact, they a called ‘nibble pies’ in Warrnambool.

Fair enough - they have a lot of weirdos in that neck of the woods.

I don't recall that term (nibble pies) ever being used for party pies. Do you Horace? I know of Clark's pies. I know of Chittick's pies being the Warrnambool thing though. Clark's were from 'out of town'.

The Weekly Times says the term has been around for ages.

 

[Lomas]

Lomas
No that's factored in.

We were two over because we had two LTIs.

Cheers.

 

[Shagga is all Class]

Honestly, sell this recruitment to me for Pick 25?

Not sure about sell but the last 2 pick 25s, Harry Demattia and Lewis Hayes, have yet to play a game.

They year before Richmond had 5 picks in the top 30 and whilst it is still early, look to have blown their wad.

We just picked up some known quantities which might have turned that 54 point lead against Collingwood into an actual 54 point win and LDU might have signed the week after.

We do have a pick 26 on our list. His name is Brayden George.

 

[Lomas]

Fair enough - they have a lot of weirdos in that neck of the woods.

I don't recall that term (nibble pies) ever being used for party pies. Do you Horace? I know of Clark's pies. I know of Chittick's pies being the Warrnambool thing though. Clark's were from 'out of town'.

The Weekly Times says the term has been around for ages.

Brady is a bit different, I thought it might have significance for trade ‘nibbles’.

 

[Sphynx]

Not sure about sell but the last 2 pick 25s, Harry Demattia and Lewis Hayes, have yet to play a game.

They year before Richmond had 5 picks in the top 30 and whilst it is still early, look to have blown their wad.

We just picked up some known quantities which might have turned that 54 point lead against Collingwood into an actual 54 point win and LDU might have signed the week after.

We do have a pick 26 on our list. His name is Brayden George.

And 10 of the 22 of this years All Australians were picked at 25 or lower.

 

[Ichiro #51]

Honestly, the amount of people on here that are mouth pieces for the club is hilarious.

They must simply look at Wikipedia and see an All Australian Jacket and Best and Fairest from checks 5 years ago next season. Ben Brown was a Coleman medal contender only 1 season removed, that's how long ago that was.


Daniel averages 13 meters per disposal. 13.

Some people are making out like he's Darren Jarman. LMAC had a better kicking efficiency and effective kick ratio than he did last season and he moved the ball a hell of a lot further per disposal. I'll have to re-check some of the dumps during the year, but I believe he was listed throughout the year in CD's worst kicks vs expected kick rating on some week to week analysis'.

And people loved to hang shit on Colby on this board at periods of last season. Their reactions are going to be fairly comical when they discover Daniel moves the ball 40% less per possession than Colby, who some hung a heap of shit on for his give and goes and chip kicks.

He doesn't run with the ball, he is a spot up mark/kick type that is a complete defensive liability that opposition sides actively try to make the 3rd forward and medium forward mismatch against. It's why the Dogs replaced him with a few fringe VFL types who actually can break zone defences and defend in the air.

He actually used to be quite a good interceptor in his first 4-5 years in the league, that's disappeared in the second half of his career as he's just become an unaccountable small half back.

And he's joining one of the worst defences in the league, what could go wrong?

He's also 29 years old in the middle of next season and has got progressively worse year on year since his peak in 2020 as that AA/B&F winner.

The fact he was also on $1,500,000 over the next two seasons, is 29 years old next year, in the Dogs VFL team or a sub for much of the year and the evenness of this draft, makes this the absolute deal of the century for them. Twomey is absolutely spot on, daylight robbery and one every club would make in an instant for a 29 year old at this stage of their careers. A salary dump for a fringe player on a back ended deal, who has been on a year on year decline for 4 years and not at all required anymore and been replaced, is just...

We had every single bit of leverage in this deal. The only thing going for the Dogs was he was contracted, yet at $750,000 PA it was as plain as day they would blink and move him at the end for whatever they could get.


I was never apposed to his recruitment, if the price was right. IF the price was right, He's a fantastic trainer, was a good leader at underage level and has a good footy brain. He's developed a fair few bad habits sitting as a loose half back flanker since his Rising Star and following years however.

This should have been Pick 66 or a F4 type deal when factoring his toxic contract for their TPP.

I sincerely hope we play him off a wing or even half forward and not half back. The game has gone past his type of player at half back.

Your devotion to Champion Data BS
is at Glen Luff levels. That worked an absolute treat for us.

 

[Samsquanch]

Brady is a bit different, I thought it might have significance for trade ‘nibbles’.

I'll let Horace be the judge.

I can't believe SpiderBurton22 brought up a food reference in such a momentous thread as this in any case. What was he thinking?

 

[Devil Fish]

With Port absolutely getting a below par return for a contracted dual AA player all I can say is I feel like they've been hit by the karma bus for what they pulled with the JHF deal given he was contracted too. And rightly so as well

Wardlaw and Goad for JHF…..it does stink doesn’t it?

 

[Lomas]

I'll let Horace be the judge.

I can't believe SpiderBurton22 brought up a food reference in such a momentous thread as this in any case. What was he thinking?

Yes, he brought it up

 

[archereleven]

Our Danish/Estonian academy producing the goods though. Exciting times

Why hasn't Snoz amassed a heap of shit picks for Tauru? Shirley, he's in our Danish academy??

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[spurs]

And 10 of the 22 of this years All Australians were picked at 25 or lower.

It won’t be pick 25 after concessions to other clubs.

 

[Lomas]

And 10 of the 22 of this years All Australians were picked at 25 or lower.

But not 10 picked at 25….

 

[King Hansen]

Gonna sign off on this trade period with this;

Did we overpay on Daniel? Yes. Would I have preferred to take 25 to the draft? Yes.

But at the end of the day I’m sick of turning up and losing every week. Comes in and provides good ball movement from the back half. We move Colby up the ground where he can damage going inside 50 and kick long goals from 50 and be a far more dangerous threat for us.

We get Parker in to provide much needed leadership. I can’t wait to see Wardlaw after working with Parker for a while. He should be great for Sheez too, help mould him into the next skipper.

Konstanty is a free hit. He brings forward pressure which we’ve needed for years. He obviously has a lot of work to do, but he’s going to get an opportunity to show if he’s cut out for the level. Seeing a spot he can fill might spur him on to push harder.

Darling, wasn’t keen but he’s a roo now and just hope it works positively for us.

All in all, forget the price. They are roos, let’s win some f*cking football games. Bring on the draft and then hopefully a happier 2025 season.

Well said. Stop sooking about pick 25 to those that can't get over the Daniel trade. The guy is a gun. It'll be pick 30 and we'd probably pick the next Spicer, Lazy, Will Walker or an injury prone George anyway.

 

[hellas_johnny]

We have 3 senior spots 1 rookie spot left. Club will surely look to trade with Richmond?

 

[hilly]

If he can split 2 well, then it's a brilliant exchange period.

What are your expectations here, 6 and ? (assuming Richmond).

 

[Lomas]

What are your expectations here, 6 and ? (assuming Richmond).

I think they are most likely to do trades involving next year as well.