List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part II

[Masked Avenger]

Look at the rats leaving the sinking ship now.

Anyone worth prying out of there for pick 2?

I can't recall an exodus of quality players like this.

Not finished either because they're wide open now.

The likes of Taranto and Hopper will be seething.

 

[Only Forwards]

Membrey is basically Zurhaar

You are not wrong

 

[Pres]

LEEK PLZ

Surely needs to be our #1 target?

 

[R00StaR]

Good to see somebody acknowledge that you can be the same height as someone but a totally different type of player. Not saying I necessarily want Membrey, but I see him more as a link player who gets on his bike and leads out to the wings. He doesn't stay at home inside the forward 50, he isn't a pack marker, but he is something that we haven't really got, height notwithstanding. He's also quite good at getting into defence and clogging things up when you're trying to protect a lead or running down the clock.

Zurhaar does all that. Most acknowledge Cam had a poor year even though he was starved of a lot of football. Despite the Saints having a significantly better year than us, Zurhaar's stats match up well in all categories v Membrey.

Zurhaar more disposals per game but slightly less marks and goals as you'd expect given his starvation and our often slow i50s. Cam is also higher for i50s, tackles and contested possessions.

Zurhaar V Membrey

 

[Hazey1977]

Agree, it seems very lopsided in favor of the player.

If their on a long contract they can play sh*t and still get full payment. Then even when contracted they'll request trades to clubs of their choice which reduces bargaining power of the club with the contract.

Maybe clubs need to start looking how these contracts are structured (if they aren't already), where the players can legally only ask for trade and goes to the club who makes the best deal. And/or money claw back for player not wanting to complete their contract to protect clubs when frontloading. Theres also the cost to the clubs in their planning, they've recruited believing that contracted players will be there.

I wonder how things would look if there was also a transfer fee involved from the purchasing club when players are still under contract?

Kind of like in The World Game, but I've not thought through the exact machinations. Selling club get a cash boost and maybe even allowed to add this value to their salary cap?

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[showusyacunningt]

Membrey's more a traditional quick on the lead, out of the square type of FF. Cam pushes up more and impacts the contest.
Still, some similarities including height. Both can offer something a little different.
I see Membrey replacing Pink as the non ruck support tall.

 

[New_Roo]

They're all playing medium forward. Sure he doesn't differently but it's the same role. If Membrey is added, two will have to play VFL.

Pink and Teakle will be well before any of those you mention!


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[The Nostradamus]

Look at the rats leaving the sinking ship now.

Anyone worth prying out of there for pick 2?

Honestly the biggest rat was dimma jumping ship early

 

[Better Loosen Up]

No idea if any truth but at least something to get funny season going

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This guys completely off his rocker

 

[Ashley B]

Some one just sent something re Stephenson . Find another club, or , comeback fit and serious you have 1 yr left on your contract

 

[Tiberius]

Zurhaar does all that. Most acknowledge Cam had a poor year even though he was starved of a lot of football. Despite the Saints having a significantly better year than us, Zurhaar's stats match up well in all categories v Membrey.

Zurhaar more disposals per game but slightly less marks and goals as you'd expect given his starvation and our often slow i50s. Cam is also higher for i50s, tackles and contested possessions.

Zurhaar V Membrey

I don't dispute the stats similarities, but I'm still not sure it's that simple. If it was we could just get AI to pick the team and do the recruiting.

 

[Shinboner1]

If leek was gettable. I'd be offering a future 1st

 

[Kanga1996]

Some one just sent something re Stephenson . Find another club, or , comeback fit and serious you have 1 yr left on your contract

Collingwood supports posted this on Twitter. Apparently it was from his exit interview “Look for another club or come back fit”


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[The Nostradamus]

Saints apparently in contact with dan Houston

5

Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

now

Hope we have made a call

If he’s willing to go saints he is willing to go any vic club

 

[Mute Point]

Look at the rats leaving the sinking ship now.

Anyone worth prying out of there for pick 2?

I'd split pick 2 and use one of the picks on Armstrong & offer the other on Noah Balta.
Sure he has some brain fades but would go OK as a permanent FB for the next 7 yrs.

 

[Ashley B]

Collingwood supports posted this on Twitter. Apparently it was from his exit interview “Look for another club or come back fit”


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Probably on the money nothing extraordinary there. Stephenson looking like one of those players with heaps of talent that didn’t make the most of his opportunities. He can change this but fast running out of time. He will regret it one day.

 

[Outtatym]

I'd take membrey solely for the fact he seems to kick goals against us. Other than that, he's shit.

 

[Skarrz]

Seriously worrying if multiple players are interested in the saints over us, got to wonder what snake oil they are selling cause they are on a path to nowhere with their current list

 

[showusyacunningt]

Seriously worrying if multiple players are interested in the saints over us, got to wonder what snake oil they are selling cause they are on a path to nowhere with their current list

We are an absolute rabble. No good players will preference us until we start winning consistently.

 

[Tas]

No idea if any truth but at least something to get funny season going

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I thought people on this forum are cooked, but this takes the cake!

 

[Tas]

Zurhaar does all that. Most acknowledge Cam had a poor year even though he was starved of a lot of football. Despite the Saints having a significantly better year than us, Zurhaar's stats match up well in all categories v Membrey.

Zurhaar more disposals per game but slightly less marks and goals as you'd expect given his starvation and our often slow i50s. Cam is also higher for i50s, tackles and contested possessions.

Zurhaar V Membrey

Curtis seemed to find the ball okay.

 

[archereleven]

Membrey is basically Zurhaar

Members is a better field kick and is light years better with positioning and body work imo.

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[Themanbun]

Members is a better field kick and is light years better with positioning and body work imo.

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It doesn't help him much though unfortunately. Bloke rarely takes a contested mark.

 

[Merlin007]

Geez Seb Ross not offered a contract by St.Kilda.

In the event we don't end up with a Parker type, I'd be keen. Ross is a more defensive mid and has an excellent character. You could play him purely as a tagger or in a similar defensive role to Shiels. His form at the start of the year was pretty solid, but tapered off in the back end of this year.

Thought the same

 

[Merlin007]

It doesn't help him much though unfortunately. Bloke rarely takes a contested mark.

People will always differ over the ‘eye test’. The stats have zurhaar ahead on every measure except goals per game, where membrey has an edge. Given the forward supply between the 2 teams, hardly surprising. But whatever those arguments, the fact is membrey doesn’t fill a structural need in the forward line