List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part II

[Junk yard]

Player Watch - #29: Will Phillips [Part II] - Extends to End of 2025

He will no doubt leave NO stone unturned in the preseason He has the fire if we put faith in him

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He clearly left some stones unturned last two preseasons. I'll be stoked if he comes back in shape and can contribute something to the team, he needs elite cardio with his limitations. Words are cheap, we'll know early preseason how this turns out.

 

[King Corey]

By my math this leaves uncontracted:

• Drury
• Lazzaro
• Harvey
• Taylor
• Maley
• Sellers
• Free

Retired/delisted

• Shiels
• Greenwood
• Thomas

I am certain Maley will be offered a new contract, not sure on the rest of them which would mean we are seeing 9 players departing.

Think you've nailed it.

Agree that delisting Maley would be odd unless there's a fundamental issue in his game we're unaware of.

I feel for Charlie and wouldn't be upset to see him get another year.

Sellers is a damn pity. Not sure we set him up for success.

 

[Junk yard]

Player Watch - #29: Will Phillips [Part II] - Extends to End of 2025

He will no doubt leave NO stone unturned in the preseason He has the fire if we put faith in him

www.bigfooty.com

That is not bursting out of a stoppage

 

[shinboner magic]

Is Drury really a better option than Laz

 

[The Nostradamus]

Is Drury really a better option than Laz

Nope
Drury and free should be the first delisted

 

[Event Horizon]

Wonder what are the odds of blokes who were on 1 year deals to earn long term contracts following that? Wouldn't be all that much I don't think. But wishing the three boys as well as Eddie Ford and Kal Dawson all the best to get longer deals next year

 

[Makeshift Park]

46 currently on the list , 2 inactive (Goater and CCJ)
37 primary, 9 rookies

Standard list size is 42 but we have the two extra spots taking us to 44.

1​		Hugh Greenwood	6-Mar-92​	32yr	190cm	90kg	2024​
5​		Curtis Taylor	6-Apr-00​	24yr	187cm	78kg	2024​
26​		Tarryn Thomas	25-Mar-00​	24yr	188cm	82kg	2024​
35​		Charlie Lazzaro	25-Mar-02​	22yr	179cm	73kg	2024​
37​		Cooper Harvey	12-Jul-04​	19yr	180cm	80kg	2024​
41​	r	Blake Drury	1-Nov-04​	19yr	176cm	73kg	2024​
45​	r	Hamish Free	23-Jul-98​	25yr	202cm	103kg	2024​
14​	r	Liam Shiels	29-Apr-91​	32yr	183cm	84kg	2024​
36​	r	Tyler Sellers	9-Aug-02​	21yr	193cm	90kg	2024​
39​	r	Finnbar Maley	18-Jul-03​	20yr	197cm	91kg	2024​
46​	r	Robert Hansen	13-Mar-04​	20yr	180cm	70kg	2025​
2​		Jaidyn Stephenson	15-Jan-99​	25yr	189cm	75kg	2025​
4​		Aidan Corr	17-May-94​	29yr	194cm	85kg	2025​
9​		Luke Davies-Uniacke	8-Jun-99​	24yr	187cm	85kg	2025​
13​		Darcy Tucker	23-Jan-97​	27yr	184cm	78kg	2025​
21​		Callum Coleman-Jones	13-Jun-99​	24yr	201cm	99kg	2025​
27​		Miller Bergman	25-Jan-03​	21yr	188cm	65kg	2025​
28​		Bigoa Nyuon	18-May-01​	22yr	195cm	87kg	2025​
29​		Will Phillips	22-May-02​	21yr	180cm	80kg	2025​
31​		Josh Goater	2-Jun-03​	20yr	190cm	80kg	2025​
32​		Toby Pink	11-Aug-98​	25yr	193cm	84kg	2025​
40​		Eddie Ford	21-Jun-02​	21yr	189cm	83kg	2025​
42​	r	Kallan Dawson	22-Jul-98​	25yr	196cm	89kg	2025​
43​	r	Brynn Teakle	16-Oct-99​	24yr	204cm	96kg	2025​
23​	r	Geordie Payne	6-Nov-05​	18yr	184cm		2025​
6​		George Wardlaw	11-Jun-04​	19yr	182cm	79kg	2026​
7​		Zane Duursma	28-Aug-05​	18yr	190cm	80kg	2026​
8​		Bailey Scott	9-Jul-00​	23yr	186cm	73kg	2026​
10​		Colby McKercher	12-Apr-05​	19yr	182cm	76kg	2026​
11​		Luke McDonald	9-Feb-95​	29yr	190cm	85kg	2026​
17​		Riley Hardeman	27-Feb-05​	19yr	184cm	75kg	2026​
18​		Wil Dawson	20-Dec-05​	18yr	201cm	86kg	2026​
22​		Taylor Goad	28-Apr-05​	18yr	207cm	97kg	2026​
24​		Tom Powell	2-Mar-02​	22yr	183cm	74kg	2026​
33​		Brayden George	13-Jan-04​	20yr	187cm	85kg	2026​
34​		Jackson Archer	1-Sep-03​	20yr	183cm	70kg	2026​
15​		Dylan Stephens	8-Jan-01​	23yr	183cm	74kg	2027​
16​		Zac Fisher	15-Jun-98​	25yr	175cm	68kg	2027​
19​		Griffin Logue	13-Apr-98​	26yr	193cm	95kg	2027​
30​		Charlie Comben	20-Jul-01​	22yr	199cm	82kg	2027​
25​		Paul Curtis	4-Mar-03​	21yr	183cm	78kg	2028​
12​		Jy Simpkin	5-Mar-98​	26yr	182cm	75kg	2029​
20​		Nick Larkey	6-Jun-98​	25yr	197cm	82kg	2029​
38​		Tristan Xerri	15-Mar-99​	25yr	201cm	93kg	2029​
44​		Cameron Zurhaar	22-May-98​	25yr	188cm	79kg	2029​
3​		Harry Sheezel	13-Oct-04​	19yr	185cm	80kg	2030​

So if we start with 2 players too many on the main list...

Then omit Greenwood, Taylor, Lazzaro, TT and Harvey from it..

That leaves 3 free spots.

Then, on the rookie list, we retire Shiels, and delist Free and Sellers, there are three vacant spots for... say... demoting Biggie and Sleevo, and rookie drafting Stevens.

That means 6 vacant spots for draftees and trade targets, I think?

1 and 2: Split 2 for 2 first rounders (Armstrong and Berry?)
3. Pick 22 (Gerreyn?)
4. Pick 40 (Parker?)

5. Rookie Stevens

Then we have one spot left for Konstanty / Owies / Rosas / Alex Davies / Membrey (free agent) / Day (free agent)

Unless we delist Drury too, in which case, we could get two.

Something like that seems around the mark?

 

[New_Roo]

So if we start with 2 players too many on the main list...

Then omit Greenwood, Taylor, Lazzaro, TT and Harvey from it..

That leaves 3 free spots.

Then, on the rookie list, we retire Shiels, and delist Free and Sellers, there are three vacant spots for... say... demoting Biggie and Sleevo, and rookie drafting Stevens.

That means 6 vacant spots for draftees and trade targets, I think?

1 and 2: Split 2 for 2 first rounders (Armstrong and Berry?)
3. Pick 22 (Gerreyn?)
4. Pick 40 (Parker?)

5. Rookie Stevens

Then we have one spot left for Konstanty / Owies / Rosas / Alex Davies / Membrey (free agent) / Day (free agent)

Unless we delist Drury too, in which case, we could get two.

Something like that seems around the mark?

One spot for those above doesn't seem right, reckon we will be targeting 3-4 min


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[Makeshift Park]

One spot for those above doesn't seem right, reckon we will be targeting 3-4 min


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It might not look right, but assuming we're planning on drafting 3 + Stevens, I don't know how we create more spots, unless we pay out players.

We also only have fourth rounders and future picks to work with after pick 40.

 

[hilly]

Drury seems too entrenched in the Clarko/Wardlaw/Sheez love affair to be dumped IMO, will get another year. And then I agree with the fine My Left Foote above that Maley is the most likely to get a contract.

Not a good time to be OOC. Maybe we re-rookie him.

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[New_Roo]

It might not look right, but assuming we're planning on drafting 3 + Stevens, I don't know how we create more spots, unless we pay out players.

We also only have fourth rounders and future picks to work with after pick 40.

Yes not sure, will need 7-8 spots I think, 3-4 trade and similar draft... bit of a guessing game at the moment as don't know how many rookie spots we will lose hopefully none


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[buttox]

I doubt we lose the extra rookie list spots
We are still shit.
At least another year I reckon.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Yes not sure, will need 7-8 spots I think, bit of a guessing game at the moment as don't know how many rookie spots we will lose hopefully none


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I've calculated the above assuming we don't lose any rookie spots.

Bottom line is, if we want more than 2 of Konstanty / Owies / Rosas / Alex Davies / Membrey / Day, I think we might have to look at payouts.

 

[The Nostradamus]

I doubt we lose the extra rookie list spots
We are still shit.
At least another year I reckon.

Agree

Crazy that people think we might lose them

We are statistically the worst side ever yet never received a start of first pp

more likely to get another 2 spots than lose the 2

 

[buttox]

Agree

Crazy that people think we might lose them

We are statistically the worst side ever yet never received a start of first pp

more likely to get another 2 spots than lose the 2

Yep I think our out of contract guys will all be delisted. Maley seems unlucky but that's professional sport for you.
Biggie and sleevo likely to be paid out also.
I doubt ccj is. Would be a bit rough after injury.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Yep I think our out of contract guys will all be delisted. Maley seems unlucky but that's professional sport for you.
Biggie and sleevo likely to be paid out also.
I doubt ccj is. Would be a bit rough after injury.

Finnbar stays easily imo

I don’t see us/wouldn’t be bringing in more than 3 picks plus Parker and darling

 

[Makeshift Park]

Maley seems unlucky but that's professional sport for you.

Yeah that's possible too. Would've thought it unlikely given his progress, the fact he was recruited as a project player, and how we've got bugger all other KPFs.

But I guess if we're looking to trade pick 2, it makes sense that we're doing it to draft one or two top shelf KPFs. And if get Membrey and/or Day, or trade Darling in for a fourth rounder, that might cover us for the next couple years as well, and then maybe we give up on the project.

 

[Passmore]

Wonder what are the odds of blokes who were on 1 year deals to earn long term contracts following that? Wouldn't be all that much I don't think. But wishing the three boys as well as Eddie Ford and Kal Dawson all the best to get longer deals next year

Write your own ticket.

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[buttox]

Yeah that's possible too. Would've thought it unlikely given his progress, the fact he was recruited as a project player, and how we've got bugger all other KPFs.

But I guess if we're looking to trade pick 2, it makes sense that we're doing it to draft one or two top shelf KPFs. And if get Membrey and/or Day, or trade Darling in for a fourth rounder, that might cover us for the next couple years as well, and then maybe we give up on the project.

I've liked his VFL form.
But he's been recruited as a mature ager who's not ready to play.
His VFL form needs to be compared to other guys his age. Not 18 year Olds.
I'd be happy to keep him but it would not surprise me if he's gone

 

[kool kangas]

Finnbar stays easily imo

I don’t see us/wouldn’t be bringing in more than 3 picks plus Parker and darling

l'm thinking we we go all out and get as many as we can if the price is right..Time to put pressure on those who have had it to easy for the last few years...Parker and Darling is a start and keep Finnbar also..

 

[Event Horizon]

I've calculated the above assuming we don't lose any rookie spots.

Bottom line is, if we want more than 2 of Konstanty / Owies / Rosas / Alex Davies / Membrey / Day, I think we might have to look at payouts.

Who other than CCJ would you pay out?

 

[buttox]

Who other than CCJ would you pay out?

Biggie and sleevo.
Conflicting information on whether biggie has a contract.
Sleevo rumoured to be retiring.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Who other than CCJ would you pay out?

It kinda depends on who we're bringing in. But I think CCJ, Stephenson and Biggie are the only real options.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Who other than CCJ would you pay out?

Biggie for sure

 

[perplexed]

It might not look right, but assuming we're planning on drafting 3 + Stevens, I don't know how we create more spots, unless we pay out players.

We also only have fourth rounders and future picks to work with after pick 40.

You are too nice. None of Drury, Biggie or CCJ are going to make it. If we keep them, we will only be cutting them next year. With the draft so deep this year, there will be potentially good players getting through to the fourth round. That might not be the case next year.