List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part II

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Shinboner1 said:
100% we take luko.
Saves us spending 700k in duds like zurhaar to make the required 95% salary cap.
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Zurhaar's signing is more than just him as a player onfield.

As a player, he is a notch below stringer however, his signing signified a statement of intent of a player who at the start of the year was undecided had finally come around to embrace the club going in the right direction.

You just never know, next year he might go into the midfield and create some havoc.
 

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ChairmanZia said:
Zurhaar's signing is more than just him as a player onfield.

As a player, he is a notch below stringer however, his signing signified a statement of intent of a player who at the start of the year was undecided had finally come around to embrace the club going in the right direction.

You just never know, next year he might go into the midfield and create some havoc.
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Zurhaar needs to get much fitter, aerobically. Talent is not questioned
 
New_Roo said:
Matt Rosa? Two Ex eagles... he is the new Dodoro isn't he. We are having a go at Darling but Rosa be nearing 40


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Haha. It would be a fair effort to be *essendons recruiting manager and playing for us at the same time.

I think the correct name would be Malcolm Rosas.

BTW, surely no-one could emulate the misdeeds of the Dodo, could they?
 
Merlin007 said:
You can believe media bathwater about draft depth, generational talents, blah blah, but here's the actual statistical facts



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This stat is a tad misleading though and doesn't really tell the whole story. All this proves is that high draft picks are likely to be given more time and/or chances by clubs to develop. It's obviously not always the case but high draft picks are typically more likely to be mids that debut relatively early in weak teams, and barring injury or extremely poor form are usually found a spot in order to pump games in as fast as possible.

If it's not working with their current team for whatever reason they are also more likely to be given an extra chance by other clubs due to their perceived upside. A fair few former first round picks floating around that probably wouldn't still be in the system if not for which number pick they were in the draft.
 
DrZaius said:
This stat is a tad misleading though and doesn't really tell the whole story. All this proves is that high draft picks are likely to be given more time and/or chances by clubs to develop. It's obviously not always the case but high draft picks are typically more likely to be mids that debut relatively early in weak teams, and barring injury or extremely poor form are usually found a spot in order to pump games in as fast as possible.

If it's not working with their current team for whatever reason they are also more likely to be given an extra chance by other clubs due to their perceived upside. A fair few former first round picks floating around that probably wouldn't still be in the system if not for which number pick they were in the draft.
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Yeah, nah.

There's a pretty good correlation between where you were taken in the draft and how many Brownlow votes earned, and the likelihood of being an All-Australian.

High draft picks play more games because they are better players.

AFL Draft Pick Value Comparison - All Time - Draftguru

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Carey4life said:
But how many lost spots would that leave us with?

Don't we have to draft three players, plus we're sniffing around Rosa and Darling?

Does that math math?

Or could biggie and CCJ be no more despite having contracts?
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Currently we have 32 on the main list contracted and 5 rookies signed. So could be 5 spots or 7 spots.

If the AFL takes the two extra rookies spots off us, that's 5 total spots open.
Allows either 5 on main for 37-5 (3 ND, 2 trade) or 4 main, 1 rookie for 36-6. (Total 42 list max, 6 rookies max)

If the AFL let's us keep our two extra rookie spots, that's 7 total spots open.
Either 6 main & 1 rookie (38-6) or 5 main & 2 rookie (37-7) or 4 main & 3 rookie (36-8).

Delisting and paying out CCJ/Stevo/Biggie would just open up another spot on the main list to draft/trade.
 
big_e said:
Yeah, nah.

There's a pretty good correlation between where you were taken in the draft and how many Brownlow votes earned, and the likelihood of being an All-Australian.

High draft picks play more games because they are better players.

AFL Draft Pick Value Comparison - All Time - Draftguru

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It also shows that having multiple lower first rounders can make it more likely that you land an AA player than if you have pick 2 or 3.

Eg if Levi Ashcroft is bid on in the first two picks, we’re significantly more likely to get an AA player with picks 6 and 13 than we are with pick 3.
 
ChairmanZia said:
Zurhaar's signing is more than just him as a player onfield.

As a player, he is a notch below stringer however, his signing signified a statement of intent of a player who at the start of the year was undecided had finally come around to embrace the club going in the right direction.

You just never know, next year he might go into the midfield and create some havoc.
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This should be recognised as a decent call, as they are few and far btw. But absolutely needed bull to sign more for the stability of the group. Buckets last season then bull this would been reported as "everyone wants out", but bull signing on and all the other signings shows the intent of the players believing in what we are trying to build... crucial

Maybe I'll just point out that Zia did say numerous times he was gone as "who Re-signs this late in the season, he's gone!"


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DuckYeah said:
Aints believe Battle compo will be first round LOL Magoo lite, Hawthorn dont know what they’re in for
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I'd be surprised if this happened, the Hawks have no reason to modify their offer to suit the Saints as they don't have the option to match.
 

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AFL trade buzz: Eagles put pick three on table for Liam Baker, Harry Perryman latest​

Richmond could hold two of the top-three picks in this year’s draft, with West Coast putting its top selection on the table in the race for Liam Baker. JON RALPH wraps up the latest trade talk.

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September 5, 2024 - 11:48AM



West Coast would be open to trading its No. 3 pick to Richmond if it secures Liam Baker with all options open as both WA clubs await an official decision on the Tigers vice-captain.
The depth of the draft means the Eagles might be prepared to accept a pick back later in the top 10 if they secure their man.
Richmond’s new chief executive Shane Dunne this week warned rivals it will take something “extraordinary” to drag contracted players Shai Bolton and Daniel Rioli out of Punt Rd.
Baker is uncontracted, and while he is leaning towards the Eagles, his management has told the Dockers and West Coast he is yet to come to an official decision.

With quality WA-based talent later in the first round like Bo Allan, the Eagles could be prepared to hand the Tigers a second top-three selection, secure Baker and then still take an early pick.
The Eagles will also secure pick 12 from Hawthorn as part of the Tom Barrass trade, but will also want another selection in this year or next year’s draft.
Hawthorn has made clear to the Eagles it will not play hardball, but West Coast will want more than pick 12 for the contracted premiership defender.
Despite some industry speculation, the Eagles are not particularly interested in uncontracted Hawks’ former top-10 pick Denver Grainger Barras, so at this stage he will not be part of that deal.
As Gold Coast’s Wayne Campbell said this week, the Suns would be fair in their dealings with Rioli, but Dunne has drawn his own line in the sand.
He told the Talking Tigers podcast that because the pair are contracted – although Baker is out of contract – the Tigers could play hard ball.
“Clearly those guys have made their decisions and that is what they want to look at and there are a whole range of reasons for that and we are supportive of that, however they are contracted players and it will take an extraordinary deal to make those moves,” Dunne said.
“We get to work with (the) clubs in WA – and Gold Coast – to make those deals happen. There is still a long time to go, there will be a lot of talk, but we are in control of that.”

BOBBY OPEN TO PIES EXTENSION — WITH A CATCH ​

Bobby Hill is open to a contract extension after moving management stables, but the Pies will have to show him the money to get a deal done over summer.
Hill has moved to Anthony McConville’s Mac’s Sports Promotions management firm after some mid-season wrangling over a new home, and has just completed another successful season at the Pies. He has two more years left on his deal, but by AFL measures he is significantly underpaid on a deal of around $450,000-$500,000.
The Pies had indicated early this year they would be prepared to lock him away long-term.
The 24-year-old Norm Smith Medallist is open to that scenario and handing him a long-deal with a better financial component would be fair for both parties.
It keeps the player happy and means rival clubs do not circulate an undervalued player, with Hill loving Melbourne and keen to stay at the club long term.
On Thursday Hill was nominated for the AFL’s Mark of the Year award, showcasing his incredible range of talents.
The Pies just locked away Will Hoskin-Elliott, Steele Sidebottom, Oscar Steene, Scott Pendlebury and Jeremy Howe on new deals, while Justin Leppitsch has started in his new role as Pies list boss and is looking at new ways to rate and judge talent and current players as part of his new brief.

PORT’S MEGA OFFER FOR PERRYMAN ​

Port Adelaide’s six-year offer for Harry Perryman is much more lucrative than the Hawthorn offer, which will give rise to hopes that the Power can land the free agent in coming weeks.
The Power have offered six years and around $800,000 for Perryman, and while the Hawks were keen their interest came at a time when fellow free agents Blake Hardwick and Conor Nash were considering their futures.
So while the Hawks are still keen on Perryman the financial element of their deal is similar to GWS, which is offering closer to $600,000.
Hawthorn is unlikely to budge on its offer, while clubs desperate for Perryman are considering whether to offer seventh-year triggers as an added lure to get him to their teams.

MCKAY DETAILS TRADE RUMOUR ANGST ​

Carlton star Harry McKay says he was never going to leave the Blues despite his name being thrown into the aborted Christian Petracca trade.
And he has cautioned against “hypothetical” discussions about trades that can negatively impact players.
His name was raised in discussions over Petracca but he never wanted to leave and the Blues quickly told him they had never considered a trade.
As an industry, sometimes we need to have more awareness around throwing a name (up) hypothetically and not understanding the collateral damage that has,” he told his Ben and Harry podcast.
“I knew there was going to be an article at some stage but how it was reported was a bit more full-on than how I was thinking it was going to be. That next 24 hours you get a lot of calls, lots of messages, family members checking in seeing what’s going on. I’m not sure people fully understand – they might think it’s just part of the job and that’s what you put up with as a player – but it’s the people close to you. It’s funny the amount of calls and messages of family members checking in.”
 
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