List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part II

[Groucho]

You youngens, it’s Eric Pearce with the late news

“Goodnight to you, and you” - apparently the extra “and you” was to his wife, used to wonder why he did that.

 

[Psi-Roos]

If the choice is between pick 58 and John Coleman's corpse, I know who I'm picking

Old Johnny is probably still good for 2 a game.

 

[shinboner spiggs]

Apparently we’ve offered our future first round pick for Dan Houston…

Personally I’m happy with this, or the thinking behind it. We have had more than our fair share of top 5-10 picks, busted a fair few of them too. Work with the glut of talent that is already there and start bringing guys in who will get results.

 

[shinboner magic]

Can see it now - get darling to mentor our young KPF’s and then go to the draft , we selected best talent at our picks , just weren’t any KPF’s around our picks

 

[The Nostradamus]

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make it happen brady

 

[Heaps of fun]

Haha must’ve been living under a rock. Thought I was bringing the group the latest & most exclusive scoop

I think you can be excused posting a barely 24 hours old rumour that has been burried by 750 posts about Jack Darling.

 

[perplexed]

Can see it now - get darling to mentor our young KPF’s and then go to the draft , we selected best talent at our picks , just weren’t any KPF’s around our picks

It could mean we are taking Armstrong at 2. Otherwise, yes, very weird to get a mentor when you aren't guarranteed a protege.

 

[Makeshift Park]

It could mean we are taking Armstrong at 2. Otherwise, yes, very weird to get a mentor when you aren't guarranteed a protege.

Darling the Mentor, Moose the Apprentice

 

[Tas]

Brady: I hear Houston wants to head back to Victoria, is that true?
Port: Yes, are you interested?
Brady: Sure, he is a good player.
Port: We are looking for 2 first round picks, or an early first round pick. Will you offer pick 2?
Brady: No, but we think we will improve a bit next year so perhaps our future first could be involved.

News: North offers future 1st round pick for Houston

How would you be making a formal offer for someone you haven't even spoken to? It sounds like another case of club x/manager y using our interest in anyone with a pulse to enhance their bargaining position... which doesn't involve or benefit us at all.

 

[Only Forwards]

Proof we are getting close to a interesting point in Clarko's time here.

He's feeling the pressure to improve imo, he knows another bottom 4 finish will have the vultures out for him.

If we target anyone like this, they have to be free agents. We can't commit draft capital like this for players of that age bracket. It's absolute insanity. Melbourne, Geelong? Yes. They have a completely different age demographic and profile. Somone like Petracca? Maybe, but even then it's lineball. Houston sure as shit isn't Christian Petracca.


Absolutely no way in the world we should be trading that pick on it's own for a 28 year old unless it's bonafide absolute superstar of the game, I don't care if he's a 2 x AA half back and the best ball user in the comp.

We are turning into what Freo was to us in the 90's.

They will have our pants down here long term and we will likely hand them one of Sid Draper or Dyson Sharp on a platter (which will be their long term game, like they did with us with Rozee/Polec)

I have zero desire to trade with port regardless of what is on offer.

put a moratorium on trading with them until after we have had a top 4 finish.

They have either f*ed us or tried to f* us on every deal we have done with them for a decade.

 

[BlueandWhiteinmyBlood]

Sincerely, hope not. We don’t go giving away a top 5 pick, for a bloke that’s going to be 28 next year, unless they’re a superstar. Which he most certainly is not.

It probably reads cutting a bit deeper than what would actually transpire.
I think everyone knows, even port Adelaide that Houston isn’t worth a top 6 pick but if he came with a sweetener back and some swaps (however it would be fleshed out) I’m sure it would be a positive step forward for our club. He is the best long and short kick in the league, top 3 for both individually I think the bloke from champion data said on sen a few weeks back and he has two AA gurnseys to his name too.

 

[backtothedraft]

I'm not sure why the potential Darling deal is causing so much division and angst. He isn't a needle mover either way for mine. We won't be giving up anything by way of trade capital, and can comfortably fit him in the cap. He might not make us better, but i can't see him making us worse. Shiels was "washed" and retired when he came to North, and ended up playing a lot of footy. If Darling plays 20 games across two years, and is able to provide some experience and direction on track during the week, it feels like a low risk move.

 

[Shinboner1]

People flipping their shit over the houston deal. Mate he's 1 year older than larkey and Zurhaar.
We need to push for some good older players otherwise the guys we do have, won't be playing when we start making finals.
You're kidding yourself if you don't think Houston would walk into our 22 and drastically change the backline for the better.

 

[GoRoos2023]

People flipping their shit over the houston deal. Mate he's 1 year older than larkey and Zurhaar.
We need to push for some good older players otherwise the guys we do have, won't be playing when we start making finals.
You're kidding yourself if you don't think Houston would walk into our 22 and drastically change the backline for the better.

He has no interest in coming to us anyway! This board's ability to overestimate our bargaining position as a club when it comes to drafting and obsession with draft pick value is astounding.

 

[Waynesworld]

Imagine not spending a third of your work day hammering f5 on the trade thread. Scoff!

And in breaking news we are offering a 50 year old Jack Darling a 5 year contract term

 

[New_Roo]

Apparently we’ve offered our future first round pick for Dan Houston

5

Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

…

Wasn't that yesterday news?


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[New_Roo]

Can see it now - get darling to mentor our young KPF’s and then go to the draft , we selected best talent at our picks , just weren’t any KPF’s around our picks

Will be if talking Armstrong now top 5....


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[Hearts to hearts]

In a spooky coincidence, Melbourne paid pick 6 for Stephen May (don’t count that the other Kolojazni was thrown in). And 10 and a future first for Jake Lever

8

Jake Lever

Age

28

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

242.0

4star

D

9.6

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

3.1

2star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.3

2star

MG

145.4

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

189.8

4star

. At some point if you want to get quality in with plenty of miles still ahead, and you can get them interested, you have to pay for it.

I honestly don’t feel as though North is yet at a point where we can attract high calibre or be ready to maximise the value of it when it arrives, but that’s a different discussion than whether a well performed player in their prime is worth high draft picks. They are.

 

[backtothedraft]

In a spooky coincidence, Melbourne paid pick 6 for Stephen May (don’t count that the other Kolojazni was thrown in). And 10 and a future first for Jake Lever. At some point if you want to get quality in with plenty of miles still ahead, and you can get them interested, you have to pay for it.

I honestly don’t feel as though North is yet at a point where we can attract high calibre or be ready to maximise the value of it when it arrives, but that’s a different discussion than whether a well performed player in their prime is worth high draft picks. They are.

Zak Butters is the one for me. I hope we're laying the ground work now. If he is playing under a new coach next year and indications are he would consider a move back to Victoria, we need to put ourselves in a position to make a massive play. If we can show some improvement across the course of the next season (6-8 wins) we could at least put ourselves in te conversation with the size of the contract we'd be able to offer. But making a move of that type this year would definitely be premature, particularly as future trading has yet be unlocked.

 

[Shinboner1]

He has no interest in coming to us anyway! This board's ability to overestimate our bargaining position as a club when it comes to drafting and obsession with draft pick value is astounding.

Doesn't matter. At least we put our hat in the ring

 

[The acurate one]

Brady: I hear Houston wants to head back to Victoria, is that true?
Port: Yes, are you interested?
Brady: Sure, he is a good player.
Port: We are looking for 2 first round picks, or an early first round pick. Will you offer pick 2?
Brady: No, but we think we will improve a bit next year so perhaps our future first could be involved.

News: North offers future 1st round pick for Houston

How would you be making a formal offer for someone you haven't even spoken to? It sounds like another case of club x/manager y using our interest in anyone with a pulse to enhance their bargaining position... which doesn't involve or benefit us at all.

I did enquire today and told that we didn't offer our first next year, so dunno but I do know he's not worthy of a top 4 pick, or the type you should get with a top 4 pick.

 

[Makeshift Park]

And in breaking news we are offering a 50 year old Jack Darling a 5 year contract term

I wouldn't have minded when he was 48 years old, but the only possible explanation is that Brady must be getting desperate.

 

[Hojuman]

Zak Butters is the one for me. I hope we're laying the ground work now. If he is playing under a new coach next year and indications are he would consider a move back to Victoria, we need to put ourselves in a position to make a massive play. If we can show some improvement across the course of the next season (6-8 wins) we could at least put ourselves in te conversation with the size of the contract we'd be able to offer. But making a move of that type this year would definitely be premature, particularly as future trading has yet be unlocked.

Zak is a Bullflogs man. If they put out the feelers and the right offer, that's where he'll end up

 

[backtothedraft]

Zak is a Bullflogs man. If they put out the feelers and the right offer, that's where he'll end up

They have Darcy, Bont and Richards to sign up next year, Jamarra the year after that. Naughton already signed big dollars for 9 years. They might not be able to compete with our offer albeit I concede our chances would be very slim.

 

[Samsquanch]

They have Darcy, Bont and Richards to sign up next year, Jamarra the year after that. Naughton already signed big dollars for 9 years. They might not be able to compete with our offer albeit I concede our chances would be very slim.

I'm sure they would find a way.