List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part II

[Skarrz]

F1 for Houston and Port’s F1. Get around the death ride

 

[krakouers]

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Is Fireman running the midweek tackle?

 

[The Nostradamus]

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I’m neither here nor there on Houston, we can walk away from that if it gets too much but will keep us busy and something to discuss over trade period after we get our main targets done early

You’d think we’d get Parker and hopefully konstanty done straight away and if it’s just that and darling that’s solid enough to sit back and chill til the draft

 

[ferball]

Our age profile for 2025 if we include for discussion purposes (Darling, Houston and Parker):

33 - Jack Darling
32 - Luke Parker
30 - Aiden Corr
30 - Luke McDonald

28 - Dan Houston
28 - Darcy Tucker

27 - Jy Simpkin
27 - Griffin Logue

26 - Nick Larkey
26 - Zac Fisher
26 - Kallan Dawson
26 - Toby Pink
26 - Jayden Stevenson
26 - Tristan Xerri

25 - LDU
25 - Teakle
25 - CCJ

24 - Bailey Scott
24 - Dylan Stephens

23 - Charlie Comben
23 - Tom Powell
23 - Will Phillips
23 - Eddie Ford

22 - Miller Bergman
22 - Paul Curtis

21 - Josh Goater
21 - Finbar Maley
21 - Jackson Archer
21 - Brayden George
21 - Robert Hansen Jr

20 - George Wardlaw
20 - Harry Sheezel
20 - Blake Drury
20 - Riley Hardeman

19 - Colby McKercher
19 - Taylor Goad
19 - Zane Duursma
19 - Geordie Payne
19 - Will Dawson

I would argue the majority of our premiership-worthy talent is 23 and below next year, with the obvious Larkey, Xerri, Logue and LDU being our leaders when that time comes.

I think the two elder inclusions give us experience and strengthen age profiles where we are seriously lacking, it'll be kids running the place otherwise, and will hopefully straighten us up week-to-week while the real talent matures.

We will be very lucky for Houston to be there and firing when we can contend for top 4.

We will be doing well if the 26/27 group are still fit enough to make that push.

If i was making the calls, i'd be strengthening the side for the supporters that turn up every week, the sponsors, all that, while recruiting as much talent into the under 25 category as possible, and prioritising their development above all else.

You forgot Zurhaar. Big holes in that 24/25 age group too. Thanks TT.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Sorry, but that is bullsh$t. Prior to Houston being on the market, and the associated rumours of him possibly being a target, how many on here have posted something along the lines of 'Geez, that Houston is a gun, exactly what we need, we should be selling the farm for him'.

July 2023


October 2022



October 2022


July 2022



And dozens more beforehand.

Try a bit harder champ.

If for some reason ($$$) he wants to come and play for us, and we have to spend a whole lot of draft capital, then I can't wait for the posters who advocated for the trade to start to piss & moan about how we have no developing KFPs to kick to, and no small forwards who can apply a bit of defensive pressure.

Its not an either/or.

We should split 2 for 6 and 13.

Draft Armstrong, Berry and one of Faull or Gerreyn.

I will join you in the barricades if we don't nab at least one good KPF and one good small forward this offseason.

Fortunately I don't think I'll have to.

 

[King Hansen]

Bigfooty: We need to trade for better players and not spuds like Fisher, Stephens, Tucker and Darling.

We get linked to a 2xAA 27 year old star with 4 or 5 elite years left and in a position we need.

Also Bigfooty: **** that, he's overrated and won't help us improve and rather draft an unknown 18 year old kid that needs 5 years of development.

 

[BlueRoos]

If LDU is taking that line, it certainly explains some of the trade chat. I just hope we don't sell the farm to encourage him to sign on.

 

[Makeshift Park]

I’m on the fence with him but he is a gun and we should expect a very good 5-6 years of him with his durability, if he was 26 I’d reckon more people would be on board. There’s a lot of lingering grief about dealing with Port though.

Our F1 is a super controversial bargaining chip too.

If we split 2 for 6/13 and used one of those picks, I don't think people would lose their shit so much.

 

[JGreezy]

Bigfooty: We need to trade for better players and not spuds like Fisher, Stephens, Tucker and Darling.

We get linked to a 2xAA 27 year old star with 4 or 5 elite years left and in a position we need.

Also Bigfooty: **** that, he's overrated and won't help us improve and rather draft an unknown 18 year old kid that needs 5 years of development.

We could get linked to a time machine that can land us GAJ and Wayne Carey in their primes and there'd be comments on here saying that they'd only give up a 2nd round pick and nothing more

 

[BlueandWhiteinmyBlood]

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What was the full trade they proposed, I shut the surface pro and went down to Canggu beach to watch the sunset instead. Wrong of me I know. Where do the 10/17 come from?

 

[Merlin007]

If LDU is taking that line, it certainly explains some of the trade chat. I just hope we don't sell the farm to encourage him to sign on.

Sorry, but what line? A couple of nuff nuff journos launch a gossip column because they've got nothing else to talk about, and we all melt because the recently crowned BnF winner is walking out.

Jesus F Christ

 

[New_Roo]

Houston is 27, 28 half way into next year pretty much. He is in the exact age bracket our club needs right now. The club can’t win can it, we are drafting top end talented teenagers - we are to young. We bring in some old experienced heads - they are too old. We look to bring in someone somewhere in the Middle age wise and even that’s not good enough.

Tell me, with what’s available, what is it exactly you’d like the club to do?

He is a miserable git who just sees the negative in everything and will whinge at anything...



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[ferball]

Good signs the main media have picked it up.

15 or 17 would be better than 10.

Poorta have nothing in the top two rounds so they're probably more desperate to get any pick than we are to give one up.

 

[ferball]

Sorry, but what line? A couple of nuff nuff journos launch a gossip column because they've got nothing else to talk about, and we all melt because the recently crowned BnF winner is walking out.

Jesus F Christ

What is this you are talking about?

 

[lockheed]

We are all to be hunted, captured and kept in a large oubliette and then slowly tortured to death and finally our corpses devoured by History's Greatest Monster - Brady Rawlings

F*** - Brad the Impaler

 

[New_Roo]

We've got 10 candidates for HB, id much rather spend it in the draft. Be that a Lalor a versatile mid with burst, a key forward like Armstrong or a small fwd like Berry.

We may have 10 candidates but none of them are elite currently and pretty unlikely any of them will get to Houston's elite AA status. And if they do plenty of room for two

And Houston doesn't mean we can't get Armstrong and Berry... currently talking F1, get those two splitting 2, plus a mid 20s pick too


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[krakouers]

F*** - Brad the Impaler

I mean…. Hot or not = Not
but yeah ok, my standards are different to yours so you do you

 

[Passmore]

If LDU is taking that line, it certainly explains some of the trade chat. I just hope we don't sell the farm to encourage him to sign on.

What's LDU doing?

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[BlueRoos]

Sorry, but what line? A couple of nuff nuff journos launch a gossip column because they've got nothing else to talk about, and we all melt because the recently crowned BnF winner is walking out.

Jesus F Christ

Cool your jets Eddy, the only one having a melt is you. lol Not sure where I said LDU was walking out. The simple fact is LDU has not signed on yet, and it would be perfectly reasonable for him to wait and see.

IF the club feels under the heat to keep him, it could force their hand in trade negotiations. Would not be the first or last sporting club to feel pressured and get desperate, we hardly have a recent reputation at being savvy at the bargaining table. Not sure where the melt is in that hypothesis?

 

[archereleven]

I think the strategy is to elevate the club above the 2-4 wins it gets per year over the last 5 years.

The worst football produced in afl history.

It's like some posters haven't seen the last 5 years, lol

Watch memberships tank if we start 0-8 by 'hitting the draft' alone.

We have been so piss poor that I want the club to do everything in its power to improve and learn how to win again.

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[the big lebowski]

It's like some posters haven't seen the last 5 years, lol

Watch memberships tank if we start 0-8 by 'hitting the draft' alone.

We have been so piss poor that I want the club to do everything in its power to improve and learn how to win again.

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It just had to improve.

This is survival type stuff

 

[giantroo]

MIDFIELDER Cooper Stephens and ruck Clay Tucker have been delisted by Hawthorn, with neither having played a senior game for the Hawks.

 

[New_Roo]

Its a matter of him keeping them out and we dont get to see what they can develop into.
Either one might be just as good and we already have them. Then we have Hardeman, Fisher, Tucker and the possibility of playing Duursma or even Powell there. I dont see any attributes Houston has that Powell couldn't develop.

What the? Tucker? He is a solid honest clubman no more... he will be around at this stage but should be pushed out in next year or so. Hardeman way too early, and while inches hope for Powell he will never have the elite attributes that Houston has. May aswell talk fisher too but he isn't a hb as a liability defensive wise, and has a decent kick when he is in the perfect position on his left... Houston doesn't miss


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[New_Roo]

Adelaides pick#4 would be what l would go after + pick swaps for our F1st
Split #2 for Richmonds 6, 10 and then offer Poort pick#10 as part of a deal for Houston
We then end up with #4 and #6...

Don't ade need 4 for Draper?


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[Hearts to hearts]

What is this you are talking about?

You won’t believe how little it is based on.