List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part II

[Kangaroos4eva]

Maybe now he can afford a human haircut.

 

[Topparoo]

Exactly. Take our lord and savior LDU for example.

Extremely talented kid. Came to us and was rubbish.

LDU attributes his improvement to someone outside of the club giving him some direction. You know why it took someone outside of the club? Because no one in the club had the experience to straighten the kid out. No one was confident enough in their own ability or leadership to pull his head in.

Rubbish is a tad harsh. I do recall that No 10, I think Cunnington was his name has played a not too insignificant role in LDU's development.

 

[pupstar]

Exactly. Take our lord and savior LDU for example.

Extremely talented kid. Came to us and was rubbish.

LDU attributes his improvement to someone outside of the club giving him some direction. You know why it took someone outside of the club? Because no one in the club had the experience to straighten the kid out. No one was confident enough in their own ability or leadership to pull his head in.

Who was the person outside the club. Doesn't he rave about Ben C everytime he talks.

 

[Samsquanch]

Who was the person outside the club. Doesn't he rave about Ben C everytime he talks.

G. Healey?

 

[pupstar]

G. Healey?

So do you think Ben has had a influence on his career.

 

[Makeshift Park]

So which A grader is realistically coming to us. Do you believe Dan will be playing with us next year

I don't know. But that's not the point.

If there's a proven a-grader available in a position of need, you grab them over the lottery of the draft, unless there's an obvious generational prospect within your grasp.

If he chooses not to come to us what do we do pick c graders or pick highly rated kids.

We take the highly rated draftees if the only alternatives are c-graders. Of course. No one is arguing otherwise.

Don't understand how this is relevant in a convo about Houston tho.

 

[shinboner magic]

One good year = a million dollar a year deal

 

[JGreezy]

I dunno about that move.. I dont think Waterman is going to be a consistent performer. Ballsy. But I guess contracts mean **** all these days.

My thoughts exactly. He had a great 6-7 game stretch. It's his first year being any good and he's a 192cm forward.

It might work out but it's a risky commitment.

 

[Danni_Benson]

One good year = a million dollar a year deal

World has gone mad!

 

[pupstar]

I don't know. But that's not the point.

If there's a proven a-grader available in a position of need, you grab them over the lottery of the draft, unless there's an obvious generational prospect within your grasp.

We take the highly rated draftees if the only alternatives are c-graders. Of course. No one is arguing otherwise.

Don't understand how this is relevant in a convo about Houston tho.

I don't know. But that's not the point.

If there's a proven a-grader available in a position of need, you grab them over the lottery of the draft, unless there's an obvious generational prospect within your grasp.

We take the highly rated draftees if the only alternatives are c-graders. Of course. No one is arguing otherwise.

Don't understand how this is relevant in a convo about Houston tho.

Thats what we are trying to do isn't it We apparently offered our 1st for Dan Its not like we are not trying to get in A grade talent and just looking at the draft.

 

[pupstar]

Thats what we are trying to do isn't it We apparently offered our 1st for Dan Its not like we are not trying to get in A grade talent and just looking at the draft.

Our future 1st i mean.

 

[Possession]

Contracts are out of control these days, I wouldn't be surprised if they had to pull out all the stops to simply lock him down before the Saints tried to sign him on a $50M deal 'til 2040.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Our future 1st i mean.

Yeah. Maybe I was working under the mistaken apprehension you were arguing against trading for a-graders. Because there's been a few espousing that view here. Apologies if you weren't.

 

[Farthers]

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Tigers after Tsatas?

 

[RossHenshaw]

Yeah. I'm a big fan of Luke, but he was pushed out of Sydney's mids this year because he doesn't have enough running power to keep up anymore. If we bring him in, it shouldn't be to spend much time in the midfield, that is behind him. I think he could still be useful, but playing in a minor role.

I thought people were saying we were trying to get Parker to play a role as a big bodied midfielder to help Sheezel , Jy , Ldu & & wardlaw ?
If it’s just to play a role like he’s playing now for the swans as a deep half forward then forget about it…
I mean , How many more mid slow half forwards do we need ?

 

[perplexed]

FK me. Feel like banging my head against a wall. Kids can’t lead kids. Kids can’t develop kids.

Jy has won 26% of his career games.
LMac 34%

We are a team of losers. We don’t have the knowledge or behaviours required to win footy.

Houston, parker, Daniel all from footy programs that are playing September footy.

An 18 year old kid in the draft isn’t going to fill the biggest ****ing gap we have. The experience of what it takes to win games of footy.

Keep banging. We went into this season without a game plan. Yes, 'Northball', I know. But we can't shoot Clarko just yet. But we should acknowledge that it could have been a bigger issue than a lack of senior players to teach our kids how to play 'Northball'.

How about we try to do what everyone else does:

• develop a game plan around the strengths of our best players
• recruit players to fill in the holes
• shed the dead wood
• balance the list

And then see how we go.

 

[pupstar]

Yeah. Maybe I was working under the mistaken apprehension you were arguing against trading for a-graders. Because there's been a few espousing that view here. Apologies if you weren't.

All good mate obviously not against getting A graders but there still has to be a good balance between trading in players and going to the draft to keep bring in the kids.

 

[perplexed]

I thought people were saying we were trying to get Parker to play a role as a big bodied midfielder to help Sheezel , Jy , Ldu & & wardlaw ?
If it’s just to play a role like he’s playing now for the swans as a deep half forward then forget about it…
I mean , How many more mid slow half forwards do we need ?

That is clearly an issue. I'm not a big fan of getting him but he does have a healthy dose of mongrel. I imagine he would play as a centre bounce mid then go forward, probably in a nullifying role on most dangerous defender. He obviously wouldn't be used in transition.

 

[RossHenshaw]

That is clearly an issue. I'm not a big fan of getting him but he does have a healthy dose of mongrel. I imagine he would play as a centre bounce mid then go forward, probably in a nullifying role on most dangerous defender. He obviously wouldn't be used in transition.

Ye nah

 

[shinboner magic]

World has gone mad!

Polec like deal

 

[The Y Factor]

FK me. Feel like banging my head against a wall. Kids can’t lead kids. Kids can’t develop kids.

Jy has won 26% of his career games.
LMac 34%

We are a team of losers. We don’t have the knowledge or behaviours required to win footy.

Houston, parker, Daniel all from footy programs that are playing September footy.

An 18 year old kid in the draft isn’t going to fill the biggest ****ing gap we have. The experience of what it takes to win games of footy.

Please repost every 6-12 hours until the end of trade period.

It’s mind numbing to think getting more kids is going to help.

 

[chubbspeterson]

I thought people were saying we were trying to get Parker to play a role as a big bodied midfielder to help Sheezel , Jy , Ldu & & wardlaw ?
If it’s just to play a role like he’s playing now for the swans as a deep half forward then forget about it…
I mean , How many more mid slow half forwards do we need ?

It's more than that. Training standards and leadership. Parker isn't gonna mince words and will push them to reach higher standards. Gameday he'll help organise structure in the middle or up forward as the players obviously don't know what to do when the heat is on.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Please repost every 6-12 hours until the end of trade period.

It’s mind numbing to think getting more kids is going to help.

I don't think most people are saying just get kids. It's don't get C graders like Fisher and Stephens.
Experienced players from successful programs who have won a flag would help the group, it just depends what the trade capital cost is. If you can bring a few in without stalling the development opportunities of the young guys we have and address the long term needs through the draft at the same time, then that's a good balance imo.

 

[Devski]

So do you think Ben has had an influence on his career.

Is Ben still out there? lol.

One of the few good players we’ve had over the last 5 years and he’s not even there anymore.

It was Healy that LDU has publicly mentioned as getting him to pull his finger out.

 

[King Hansen]

Why wouldn't i pluck out those 4 players.

Because the draft is a lottery at the end of the day and we could draft a spud.

You're being selective to justify you're argument but you should be looking at all the top end picks.