List Mgmt. 2024 Trade Thread - No.2

[BarkerFan]

No clue. Waiting for the “Rhino” to share.

Melbourne offered F1,28 and 40

Equivalent would be F1,27 and 47

So why didn't we offer F1 27 and 43?
We will get the latter 2 picks back on draft night when someone wants to jump 1 or two apots

 

[Username Unknown]

F1st and F2nd for 13 just doesn't hit the same as F1st and F2nd for 9...

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[Gavinmitchell11]

Can’t understand why we didn’t offer our f1 and 27.

Looks like we’re all in on this draft so probably look to use 27.

 

[Leap of Faith]

Any deal that gets us pick 3 is a good deal. Pick 7 and 8 sounds good but like I’ve said a thousand times it’s not the Bont/Oliver range of the draft. It’s the “relying on other teams getting it super wrong” range. Get it done.

No guarantees. Billings was pick 3. Would rather have two top ten picks than one.

 

[StCicatriz]

We either arnt involved or Essendon are stupid.

I'm guessing we have a bigger deal in the works to go higher in the draft

 

[stavro#4]

So why didn't we offer F1 27 and 43?
We will get the latter 2 picks back on draft night when someone wants to jump 1 or two apots

Our hypothetical draft hand would be:

7,8,9
Future 2,3,4

Need to try get Macrae (and maybe a ruck)

Need points for Cole Peckett Hofmann

 

[StCicatriz]

Pretty extreme comments for someone as reserved as kane corners

 

[hayes]

No guarantees. Billings was pick 3. Would rather have two top ten picks than one.

Most years you get an absolute gun though barring the 2020 draft where there was no exposed form. I’m assuming we’d have another decent pick along with 3? It’s all a guessing game but like I keep saying we need a Bont/Oliver (the good version) because we’re just making up the numbers until we have at least one.

 

[Premium]

It could also be the Jack Billings and Paddy Dow range of the draft. Nothing is ever a guarantee.

We picked up Wilson with pick 18 , Phillipou with pick 10 and Nas with pick 11 - sometimes it better to stick with what you are given - however the guy who selected these kids is he still at the club.
If he is imagine what he can do with 7 and 8

 

[Remboy]

Can’t understand why we didn’t offer our f1 and 27.

Maybe we did but they think we're going to win the flag next year?

 

[thekizzler]

We have been completely out manoeuvred this trade period.

Hope the ‘culture building’ win against Carlton was worth it - it’s now cost us 5, 6 and 9 in a super draft.

Melbourne have successfully broken their drought, tanked again, scooped up our picks and will bounce making us and Essendon look like fools. All while Clayton Oliver is at the Pokies.

You are the no.1 dribbler in here and that's an outstanding achievement in a strong field.

 

[austinnn]

Still no alternative player/pick suggested, I’ll stop asking lol

You heard him, he said "many ways".

Because of our history, apparently keeping Zac Jones for another year in a team full of kids (for thats what it is without Battle, Ross, Campbell, and probably Crouch and Paton) is just putting us back in no man's land and we should aspire to be like the great clubs West Coast, Richmond, Essendon and North who are happy to lose in front of their fans to get a headstart on the future.

Can you imagine what would happen to the Saints fanbase if we started tanking?

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Currently in this years draft Gold Coast have picks -
6 (1751pts)
13 (1212pts)
23 (815pts)
29 (653pts)
41 (412pts)
50 (273pts)
78 (0pts)

If we bid on Lombard with Pick 7 (1644pts) then Gold Coast will need 1315pts to get him (that's with the 20% discount) .... so they could use pick 29, 41 & 50 (1338pts) to get him ..... which leaves them with pick 13, 23, 78 ...... but in next year's draft they also have Beau Addinsall & Zeke Uwland coming through (both could be top 10 picks) so they need pts for next year to match those bids

So trading out this years 13 for our F1 & F2 would give them close to 1500pts next year which would match a bid around pick 5 or 6 after the 20% discount ...would at least get them one of those players

Gold Coast want picks for next year .... as they can already cover a relatively high bid this year for Lombard

I guessing we are confident of hitting Free Agency next year and getting players we want so we don't care to much about next years draft especially if we can get 3 picks in the top 13 this year

If we do get 13 it would be stupid to couple it with 8 to jump up to 3 ..... it would mean we are giving up 8 + F1 + F2 for 3 .... we would want something extra back like WC pick 26

Or we just hit the draft with 7, 8 & 13

Or pick 8 & 13 (F1 & F2) for 3 & 26

So we go to the draft with 3, 7, 26, 27 ... but we give up F1 & F2

Or maybe I am on the wrong track

 

[Mat Mann]

But they are removing themselves from this year’s draft. For a future opportunity. With Tasmania coming in to the draft from 2026.

I just can’t my head around how stupid they are.

Essentially, they have this year’s list playing next year with only Kako as someone who can improve their list.

When lists operate in a time vacuum they go backwards very quickly.


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Dodoro, the list genius strikes again, can only laugh at how stupid they have been, it's not as if Kako has just bobbed up late and they were caught unawares.

I obviously am braindead

Give me a list management job at Melbourne, stat

start at GC's much lower standards there, Melbournmes trading and drafting has been top notch for years, its just once they are in the door that the trouble begins

With Melbourne likely to get #9, just to add more fuel to the fire - what if Melbourne then gazump us on the WCE deal? #5 & #9 for #3.

then Melbourne are being reckless, a top 10 pick to move 2 spots is beyond wild.

I didn’t think you could either. But I’m also not 100% sure on what’s the hard rule considering 2 years of future picks is live next trade period.

So is it an exemption we can seek?

Anyway… as reported

As we had 2 1st picks last year, and have another 2 this year, plus 2 2nds, I think the AFL could be satisfied we have met the criteria sufficiently.

The current rules are as below. I haven't heard about futures trading under the new rules yet. All needs to be determined before this time next year, along with Tasmania's concessions

- Clubs can trade one year in the future only.

- Clubs must make at least two first-round selections in each four-year period. If they don't, they will face restrictions from trading any further first-round draft picks.

- If a club trades a future first-round selection, it may not trade any other future selection from that same draft. But if a club keeps its future first-round selection, it can trade any of its future selections from other rounds.

 

[RWB4life]

Believe rules are still you cant trade a f1 unless you have a pick in each other round. Like technically you can't trade a f1 and a f4 unless you get a f4 back.

Port were trying to do it to last year and didn't from memory?

You can get an exemption and using them to get more 1st rounders this year is as good a reason.

 

[TheJackal]

Wonder who is our target at 3. Highly likely Lalor and FOS are gone especially if North trade pick 2. Maybe Langford is who the pimple is after? Tall marking goal kicking midfielder that offers a POD. We have enough speed in the team to offset his slowness.

I'd be in absolute shock if we got the pick and didn't spend it on FOS, Lalor, Draper or Smith.

 

[The_Steadier]

Why don’t we just play Keeler in the FWD line and he can relieve Marshall in the ruck?

Or max king.

Ratts had him rucking in the fwd line- and he held his own.

 

[SteeleSaints]

On a side note I hope Benny Paton gets another chance at GWS...

 

[saint66au]

Bottom line is, whoever we pick HAS to be a gun/s

We CANNOT afford another McCartin, Billings, Clark or Coffield. Its not an option

With Tassie coming this may our last crack at getting a GUN Top 10 pick for 5 years

 

[Sarcoidevo]

On a side note I hope Benny Paton gets another chance at GWS...

Can we eke out a 3 rounder or a F3rd for him?

 

[gringo2011]

Not having a go but one post we need to keep 7+8+27 for the draft but then say we need to deal fairly.
Bulldogs demanding pick 27 and won't budge.
So if this is the case 6.30 Wednesday night, do we fold and give 27 or keep 27 for the draft and 'risk' FA's in 12 month?

Personally if it came to that scenario, I would take 27 to the draft.

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I don't think we will give 27. Think a future pick will get it done. Both are just chest beating. 27 is too much.

 

[gringo2011]

There is roughly 1-5 academy kids that could go in the top 10 next year.

If there was 2 and we finished 8th. That would give us P13 in a draft that doesn’t seem to have the depth of talent this one does.

P9 or 11 in this draft is giving you a very nice blue chip talent, aswell as projecting to give us a player in a position of need.

Seemingly only taking 3 “Live” picks would mean that it would be in our benefit to upgrade P27, which as it stands won’t come in on draft night.

Not sure 9 this year is blue chip but does give you three rolls of the dice. Next year has less depth but will still have a decent front end. You'd rather less later picks next year.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

If we do get Pick 3 do we threaten Adelaide to take Draper and try to move back to pick 4 with Adelaide giving us something else?

Their next pick is 46 (not very useful) .... but maybe we could trade pick 3 for their pick 4 + F2 .... how desperate are they for Draper?

Or do you just take Draper?

 

[saint66au]

Can we eke out a 3 rounder or a F3rd for him?

Nope...GWS have said they'll only take him as a DFA ie after we delist him.

 

[Joffaboy]

I don't think we will give 27. Think a future pick will get it done. Both are just chest beating. 27 is too much.

I agree. I do like the fact that they are 'bemused' we haven't contacted them. They also just saw we walked away from Soldo.
Ralph reporting Bulldogs keen to get the 2.4 mill off their books.
Still if they want to play hard ball and bluff, we call it and walk.
We say final offer is 47, take it or leave it.


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