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That's why we're the Bukowski of all the AFL teamsWe know where this story goes before we've even read the script.
A bit like Max eh?I'm a Jones knocker. Happy for him that he's back in the team, but I just think he has some of the worst body language I have ever seen. Anytime someone doesn't give him the ball when he thinks he should get it, he throws a mini tantrum.
Might be a slightly above average player but his attitude and leadership for the younger guys is the reason we should just cut him if we can't find a trade.
I may be wrong here, but didn't Shiel's management come to us, asking us to take him on?It blows my mind how ill informed and illogical some of the journalists/media types are. They struggle to understand basic facts or use common sense when it comes to contract situations or potential trades.
Case in point the discussion in the media last year about st kilda chasing Shiel and how the deal would look. I.e The Saints giving our Gresham compo to Ess for Shiel.
And then in the aftermath to report it as St Kilda missing out on Shiel
They are all out of contract this year.What are the contract statuses of Sharman, Keeler and Heath?
Sharman gets a new deal.They are all out of contract this year.
Yes they did.I may be wrong here, but didn't Shiel's management come to us, asking us to take him on?
The media would never admit to that sort of event though. It goes against the St.Kilda is desperate narrative. Shiel plays for Essendon and as we know they're all SuPeRsTaRs. It doesn't matter how old or broken they are.
Add Draper to the list. I don’t think I’d heard of him when offered him a big deal.If you consider players we have been linked with in the last 4 years, we are knocking it out of the park in terms of identifying the potential in players.
Xerri asked for a trade to the Saints and has had a breakout year. TDK has been a revelation. Caldwell has arrived. Miles Bergman has established himself in Ports best 22. Kai Lohman is kicking bags.
JDG, Weitering, LDU, McCluggage all quality who we’ve been linked with.
Not so great in terms of actually getting them across the line (Cordy and Dow the only two trades we’ve pulled across the line recently).
We do alright in the delisted free agent sector, with Bonner and Stocker recently and big Tommy Campbell is impacting at the club, despite not playing seniors.
Personally, I prefer to overpay for talent that’s yet to fully breakout, rather than older established operators like Shiel, Lobb and Tomlinson.
Not having Gresham's salary and turnovers going into 50 already made getting rid of him a win, regardless of how Collard ends up
In practical terms, Henry has replaced Gresh in the side. Thats a win right there.It has to probably be seen over a long period. The biggest benefit could come at the draft. We probably stay a bit more competitive this year if he had stayed. If we get a high pick and nail it, we have to consider that as part of the value of the deal too.
If Collard comes on that's probably the most basic win but equally Gresham might take a year to settle in and then become a good player like Acres did after he left. Then it could end up a loss.
At the end of the day it seems to have been a good move so far and Billings hasn't hurt either with us getting more out of Bonner even on less money and no trade.
Also have to consider that having Gresham means we have one less kid in the side every week. I'd still be trying to find another small forward still in case Collard doesn't come on. When Butler was out ion the side we really struggled to score. We probably won't win many matches from 90% of our score coming from marks inside 50.
Is it really that far ahead?Yes they did.
Last season.
No clue if that’s the case now. Or it’s mutual - which it probably is at this point.
If you consider players we have been linked with in the last 4 years, we are knocking it out of the park in terms of identifying the potential in players.
Xerri asked for a trade to the Saints and has had a breakout year. TDK has been a revelation. Caldwell has arrived. Miles Bergman has established himself in Ports best 22. Kai Lohman is kicking bags.
JDG, Weitering, LDU, McCluggage all quality who we’ve been linked with.
Not so great in terms of actually getting them across the line (Cordy and Dow the only two trades we’ve pulled across the line recently).
We do alright in the delisted free agent sector, with Bonner and Stocker recently and big Tommy Campbell is impacting at the club, despite not playing seniors.
Personally, I prefer to overpay for talent that’s yet to fully breakout, rather than older established operators like Shiel, Lobb and Tomlinson.
If anyone needed convincing we should look elsewhere after witnessing Sheil's spineless display yesterday, I reckon they don't need it now.I may be wrong here, but didn't Shiel's management come to us, asking us to take him on?
The media would never admit to that sort of event though. It goes against the St.Kilda is desperate narrative. Shiel plays for Essendon and as we know they're all SuPeRsTaRs. It doesn't matter how old or broken they are.
In practical terms, Henry has replaced Gresh in the side. Thats a win right there.
Luckily we ended up paying nothing for him also and Collard became a bonus.
Sharman gets a new deal.
Keeler too. But he and Heath would be in the “show me something” boat
James Peatling:
28 disposals (4th)
18 contested possessions (game-high)
6 intercept possessions (6th)
11 tackles (game-high)
8 clearances (2nd)
5 inside 50s
3 score involvements
Our midfield is doing ok now, but surely we are still considering this guy for cheap?
100% There's talent all throughout Australia playing in state leagues, or not getting their opportunities in senior AFL teams.If anyone needed convincing we should look elsewhere after witnessing Sheil's spineless display yesterday, I reckon they don't need it now.
Our whipping boy Jones looked AA in comparison.
There must be other mature aged mids about if we need coverage.
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I watch a bit of GWS...he would suit us.He's getting senior games this year. Not sure that they'll let him go cheap but definitely worth sniffing around.
problem is the way he is going he will no longer be cheap,but if battle stays surely we rejig our thinking for 2025 and beyond and give up this shiel crap & start looking at a guy like this,someone who could potentially be there for the next tilt,or if yesterday was not just a mirage and regardless of the battle decision,we sign someone or 2 like peatling and back them in to join in a party like yesterdaysJames Peatling:
28 disposals (4th)
18 contested possessions (game-high)
6 intercept possessions (6th)
11 tackles (game-high)
8 clearances (2nd)
5 inside 50s
3 score involvements
Our midfield is doing ok now, but surely we are still considering this guy for cheap?
We are talking about next season aren’t we?I'm surprised by that, would have thought Keeler has shown more than enough as a second year player.
You'd think it gets reviewed for sure but my feel is if you take out the impact injuries then we're tracking alright, perhaps pre-season might have been a bit intenseWe did pay for him but at a what looks like bargain price and got a second back by being in the right place at the right time in live trading. Hopefully he gets his body right because he's shown heaps.
A few questions have to be asked about how our fitness staff operate after this season. I remember a Melbourne poster suggesting that Misson was a disaster and that he'd cripple the list.
Mission isn’t running our fitness department.We did pay for him but at a what looks like bargain price and got a second back by being in the right place at the right time in live trading. Hopefully he gets his body right because he's shown heaps.
A few questions have to be asked about how our fitness staff operate after this season. I remember a Melbourne poster suggesting that Misson was a disaster and that he'd cripple the list.
Cordy was an unrestricted free agent, we also brought in Henry last year.If you consider players we have been linked with in the last 4 years, we are knocking it out of the park in terms of identifying the potential in players.
Xerri asked for a trade to the Saints and has had a breakout year. TDK has been a revelation. Caldwell has arrived. Miles Bergman has established himself in Ports best 22. Kai Lohman is kicking bags.
JDG, Weitering, LDU, McCluggage all quality who we’ve been linked with.
Not so great in terms of actually getting them across the line (Cordy and Dow the only two trades we’ve pulled across the line recently).
We do alright in the delisted free agent sector, with Bonner and Stocker recently and big Tommy Campbell is impacting at the club, despite not playing seniors.
Personally, I prefer to overpay for talent that’s yet to fully breakout, rather than older established operators like Shiel, Lobb and Tomlinson.