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List Mgmt. 2024 Young Talent Time (Drafting)
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I really think Erasmus fills this needs.
If he comes into the team then who's next? I think they'll transition him in as soon as next year - If they don't he's probably requesting a trade too.
If an inside mid is drafted and they have a bit of versatility to play one or two other roles, I almost think that's a very good player to add to the list tbh (Small forward or winger would also be pretty good). A one position inside mid maybe not so much.
We have Robinson in 2026. With Johnson and Erasmus should be all in on small and medium forwards and a good winger
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Hoping hes another Hayden Young but unfortunately i see another Darcy Tucker.
Drizz has some potential too
Got to be honest when I first heard this I was very underwhelmed.2024 averages
Disposals: 7.23
Marks: 3.15
Goals: 0.31
Tackles: 1.08
Can see why we were interested...
I thought I would go and do a deeper dive on the matter.
He played sub quite a bit in his 13 games. In fact two of the finals games (vs Hawks and Sydney) were games he wasn’t sub. Played ok vs Hawks but was bog average against Sydney. He was sub in that disastrous loss vs Geelong.
What makes it palatable as a rookie selection is his form in the second tier comps.
For Geelong VFL he had good stats a run of 24 plus possessions and some goals. He then played with Essendon VFL and had some very good games that got him selected by Port. His form after moving at short notice mid season across to Port’s SANFL team was very impressive. He then managed 3 late season games with Port AFL. His form in around 5 SANFL games this season has been very good as well. Looking at Port’s SANFL team they have been pretty average. He played midfield from the highlights. Often extracting the ball from centre bounce. A couple of the games there are some highlights and he played very well and kicked goals from around 45-50metres out.
My conclusion is that he stands out as very classy and a level above at VFL/SANFL. Hasn’t managed to step up to AFL level consistently as yet.
Freo chose Wagner as a standout from VFL which is a lesser comp to SANFL.
If he has averaged in SANFL around 21 possessions and a goal then he is a far better option than Emmett.
Whilst I remain underwhelmed I’m convinced there is element of his form at VFL/SANFL warranting a back-up role. Also perhaps Freo have a different position in mind like Wing for example. Also some thinking that they can get the best from him back home in WA playing with his mate Shai. I don’t know but as a SSP rookie selection it is neither here nor there and happy to roll with it.
Emmett was good in that final game of 2023. He showed glimpses in a couple of early games but went missing too often and just never improved his composure. That fluffed bounced streaming forward resulting in a turnover. So many terrible kicks i50 and missed goals. That culminated in very average WAFL finals, where lack of composure stood out.
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I agree, but pick the best talent available and develop them appropriately, a few games to show their talent at AFL level and the tall player will be worth more in trade.
I don't think we have the ability to draft a player like Erasmus to sit in the WAFL for years when they almost surely aren't going to be from WA.
There is a chance we only take the one pick at 14. (I'm still hoping for Berry, our greatest need is a small forward).
GC seem to want a pick in the 30's they may trade a F2 for our 30 pick as a live trade. Will give us more points for next year. For more fun we could even do 30 & our F2 for a GC F1(Ports F1) and continue the death ride.
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I think we draft for small forwards, I'm not Einstein but captain obvious.
Then a pearce replacement.
A youngy clone would be great, can't imagine getting a youngy so late in the first round, but hey.
We drafted fyfe and lachie neale in the second round.
Don't see the need for an insider.
We have serong, ab, Johnson. Ras and Will Brodie in the wings.
Yes cubts. Will mother frickin Brodie.
Then a pearce replacement.
A youngy clone would be great, can't imagine getting a youngy so late in the first round, but hey.
We drafted fyfe and lachie neale in the second round.
Don't see the need for an insider.
We have serong, ab, Johnson. Ras and Will Brodie in the wings.
Yes cubts. Will mother frickin Brodie.
Im trying to wrap my head around what our strategy should be and in the end I feel it all comes down to what has been said or not said in conversations between the club and Chad and Kozzy.
If we know, for example that Chad wants to come to us and is prepared to nominate us, then he comes straight in for Fyfe.
Bolton comes in for Sonny.
So who is our next weakest link in the best 23?
Is it Sturt, Freddy, NOD, Wagner, Sharp?
Who does Berry actually come in for or does he sit on the sidelines until Switta retires?
If we get Kozzy, that question becomes even harder. Can we play Berry, Kozzy, Fred, Switta, Bolton all in the same team??
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You cant plan for some thing happening if its not 100% and even then you shouldnt go all in until it has happend.
if we pick up Berry now but still want to go after Kozzy at least we will have Berry if Kozzy doesnt work out.
And a potential good trade or back up.
act on the now and plan for any eventuality in the future but dont let that make you miss out on what is best for the now.
Regarding your question on who is the weakest link, we fell apart end of last season when Pearce, Darcy and Treacy weren't available. With those 3 we are a bucket full of threepenny bangers, without them we're squibs.
Pearce: McDonald is short term cover and we do have some tall defenders coming through, although none of them cover Pearce's skillset. Whitlock seems a good option if available at our 2nd.
Darcy: few of us on here have faith in him making it through a full season, and it is a problem. Because it impacts Jackson it also messes with our forward line. Knobel really must be re-signed, and Reidy must come in if Pearce is injured. Drafting Gerreyn or Whitlock with our 2nd as multi-positional players maybe?
Treacy: Voss is the obvious cover for this but he needs to improve. I also hope we do some work on a forward structure that doesn't depend on 3 KPF there. A bit of chaos ball. Drafting Gerreyn or Davis could help cover Treacy, and the club seems to have interest in Shanahan.
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Re: Hotton
I've always held concerns for drafting players who have suffered an LTI in their draft year. Kemp, King, Hollands for example have not really come on as I anticipated. I still think these players have good careers eventually, but I think these players can take a couple more years to develop.
I like Hotton and I think he could play HFF effectively, but I worry his ability to evade pressure in the clinches might be restricted by his knee injury.
I've always held concerns for drafting players who have suffered an LTI in their draft year. Kemp, King, Hollands for example have not really come on as I anticipated. I still think these players have good careers eventually, but I think these players can take a couple more years to develop.
I like Hotton and I think he could play HFF effectively, but I worry his ability to evade pressure in the clinches might be restricted by his knee injury.
Can see us using that f3 to trade up from 30 for hannaford.
Lindsay or berry look the goods for 14 (or trade back a couple if poss for a F3?)
though if recruiting for 3-4 years, replacement for our captain particularly important - so trainor may actually be greatest need?
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And pick 67 still to come…
Lindsay or berry look the goods for 14 (or trade back a couple if poss for a F3?)
though if recruiting for 3-4 years, replacement for our captain particularly important - so trainor may actually be greatest need?
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And pick 67 still to come…
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I honestly think Hannaford sounds more what we need than Berry. The latter is getting Dylan Moore comparisons, which is great, but what we really need is the close to goal pressure and crumbing forward (i.e. Pickett).
Caveat is that I've watched basically nothing of any draftees, but I think Hannaford is closer to what we need from what I've read. Possibly even Dattoli as well.
Caveat is that I've watched basically nothing of any draftees, but I think Hannaford is closer to what we need from what I've read. Possibly even Dattoli as well.
would you sacrifice a future 2nd to get both?
I wonder if 30, plus an F2 could get to 22 to 25
Maybe an f3 back?
Everyone knows we hate keeping our F2
I don't think we need both. I think some combination of Freddy, Switta, Sturt is fine for the other roles.would you sacrifice a future 2nd to get both?
I wonder if 30, plus an F2 could get to 22 to 25
Maybe an f3 back?
Everyone knows we hate keeping our F2
I think a better balance is one small forward and one winger/kicking mid/line breaking (either kick or speed) half back. Whatever the best talent is.
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I reckon you’ve hit on what we need. But for me, it’s the other way round.
Dattoli is certainly more half forward. And I think Hannaford develops the same. Berry is the one I’d be most confident with inside the 50.
Because I think we need more currency for next year however it's probably a wait and see who falls to the pick.
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