Also that year: Jarrad Waite to norf, no compensation
EDIT: Garlett and Robinson too!
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Also that year: Jarrad Waite to norf, no compensation
EDIT: Garlett and Robinson too!
Interesting point re DGB. Doesn't this make JSOS a far more appealing prospect as that second tall defender if he comes back ok from his knee?
Also worth noting that Nick Haynes who is not only 6 years older than JSOS but also 2cms shorter is likely an insurance policy at best.
I liked the rumour about JSOS to the backline.
Remind me how we traded 19 yet used it on BB
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So are we replacing 10 players on our list now after retirements and delistings??
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Oh it gets far worse...you appear to have ommited the part where we also gave up Waite and Garlett for nothing, who went to play a further 130+ games for 250+ goals combined.
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He only shone after it rained…
I wanted us to draft Vanilla Iced Vovo
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100%.
I know nothing about the upcoming draft but I can imagine myself yelling JJJJAAAGGGGGAAAA all season long.
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Kennedy and Carroll aren't best 22 and will go to waste languishing in the VFL unless we have injuries.
Both players will get pushed further and further away from out best 22 as pick 3 comes in, the Camporeale boys develop and Cody Walker comes in the following season.
End of next year Carroll and Kennedy are probably valueless. Carroll as it turns out was valueless this season.
The 33 year old will be best 22. He's a quality footballer who gives us 1-3 seasons to find a key defender to take his place while filling a much needed hole.
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I just want to say thanks to Bletch for all the good work in this thread.
I must admit, I don’t find it easy to stay across the details of list management these days. But Bletch has certainly helped my understanding.
I must admit, I don’t find it easy to stay across the details of list management these days. But Bletch has certainly helped my understanding.
Ollie will likely become a half back who spends a bit of time on the wing. Like Docherty can. In fact they both probably pair up well as players who rotate together.
I'm hoping we have a really good look at our rotations next seasons and adjust players minutes. I'd like to see some of the rotation players get more minutes in the midfield.
That and being given a license to stay at home and run one way. Unfortunately Cripps and Hewett also need the same license. This was part of our revival at the back end of 2023. He's a good stay at home mid, but we have too many of them.
Carroll gone, I think one more mid to go end of next season. Team balance, performance and salary will impact which one that is. If our youth really comes on it will be Hewett for the same reason this year it was Kennedy. We are very slowly modernising our onbal group.
Make no mistake, there will be a clean out of small forwards at the end of next year, we won't be able to have the clean out we will want to have because of too many being contracted. We will be complaining about these contracts in 10 or 11 months time and the ITK posters will be mentioning it, make no mistake. Players will be told to "explore options" but there won't be takers. We will be going hard at forwards and a more than likely, going hard at a key defender. I am hoping Haynes gives us a bit of time to find a key defender or someone we bring in this year steps up.
Our list requirements are hopefully shrinking.
I'm not going to hop down because that's exactly what they are. List management has been good but there are some howlers along the way. As I said, this will be a conversation towards the end of next season. We are stuck with a number of forwards for a number of years who will likely not be playing AFL football unless there are injuries. I believe it's restricting our list changes currently, especially when it comes to DFA's. There are some contracts that are genuinely 'dumb'.
Are you saying we need a "Dan Houston" type player ??
We have a long list of half backs. Hoping that some of our youth step up and become Houston like players. Or we go back to Docherty who has done it before being an AA half back. Houston would have been amazing but we have made the right decision going to the draft. We just could not get it done.
I don’t get the “Ollie to HB”.
I see a top flight HB having a damaging, penetrating kick & the body to float back & take a contested mark/impact the play thru strength/size - eg Houston/Stewart etc he also hasn’t got the burst of a running half back.
He definitely has positive attributes, but I think we are selling ourselves very short if he’s a contender at HB.
100% if I was an opposition coach, I would be working on isolating him and running the attack right through him
We've been crying out since day 1 for Voss to run more players through the middle, maybe Austin and co will have finally forced the issue
It's off the back of some strong late season games. He has good defensive skills and reads the game well from that position. Hoping he develops into a similar player to Kade Simpson who was a very good half back. I think he is still an underdeveloped player, you would think there is more development in him.
Definitely there’s improvement & development to be had but Kade was an absolute freak of nature & had a massive leg for his size, plus was damn near indestructible & fearless.
If he was an opposition player at HB, u would work to isolate & man up Kemp on him & he would dead-set destroy him.
Early days he did and he continually stops doing it. He's not a tactically sound coach. I think he has good head coach qualities but the strong tactics and match day management is not there. I think the issue is all the c graders around him. I was hoping we would see more changes in our coaching department but so far nothing. I'm all for a midfield coach, I don't like our tactics in there.
In terms of managing minutes. I think we could use burst/impact players in the middle more. Williams, Durdin, Motlop for 5 minutes a quarter in the middle. Let Cripps sit in the goal square more. Let Cerra go forward a little. Give McKay more time in the ruck and little more time forward for TDK instead of massive minutes for TDK with bursts from McKay.
It would have a positive impact on opposition tactics against us. On injuries. Performance and keeping players fresh for a strong finish in game and in season. Tactically we flog some players pretty hard.
I wouldn’t be so sure.
We just delisted or traded 3 half-forwards/small forwards. Fantasia has 1 year left.
Worst draft night ever.
Even after the bad trade which at the time I wasn't that critical of at the time, the obvious picks were La Verde, who was unlucky with injury and being played out of position but has been a solid contributor still on the * list and Miller who has been AA.
But good old Rogers take Blaine who was a possible rookie and a guy that couldn't run but had a nice kick.
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The really weird thing about the 2014 draft weas that there were 7 players picked by other teams that ended up playing at Carlton.
They were,
Jarrod Pickett (4)
Caleb Marchbank (6)
Hugh Goddard (21)
Mitch McGovern (43)
Marc Pittonet (50)
Oscar McDonald (53)
Josh DeLuca (68)
