3rd Ashes Test England v Australia July 6-10 1930hrs @ Headingley

Who will win?


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The question was:
"when's the last time a #6 scored two innings like Marsh's 118 in the first dig, in one Test?".

A number 6, two centuries in a session, like Marsh did in the first dig ie by an Aussie #6 in an Ashes series.
I'm willing to guess, never.

(until today?? :winkv1:)
I know your question. I just put up a list of players who did
 

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So tubby you are picking Warner because of his fielding ?

Greenie must be a lock then next test

Annoys the hell out of me the easy run the cricketing fraternity have given Warner. It’s like they think we haven’t seen how badly out of form he was. He was embarrassingly bad in India until he got injured (would have been dropped if he wasn’t injured). Got a few runs in one test and suddenly he’s a lock for full 5.

Was good to see him get a few runs but ****ing hell the dismissals this test he looks like a guy who is utterly cooked.
 
Maaaate.
The list you put up contains all players from all countries.
Not Australian, only.
Not in an Ashes Test, only.
Not batting at #6, only.
As I said, I just picked up the list of players and posted it.
 

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Annoys the hell out of me the easy run the cricketing fraternity have given Warner. It’s like they think we haven’t seen how badly out of form he was. He was embarrassingly bad in India until he got injured (would have been dropped if he wasn’t injured). Got a few runs in one test and suddenly he’s a lock for full 5.

Was good to see him get a few runs but ******* hell the dismissals this test he looks like a guy who is utterly cooked.
Yeah but he fields first slip so according to Tubbs he must get a game :rolleyes:

100% agree with you Belnakor
 
Annoys the hell out of me the easy run the cricketing fraternity have given Warner. It’s like they think we haven’t seen how badly out of form he was. He was embarrassingly bad in India until he got injured (would have been dropped if he wasn’t injured). Got a few runs in one test and suddenly he’s a lock for full 5.

Was good to see him get a few runs but ******* hell the dismissals this test he looks like a guy who is utterly cooked.
I was actually amazed that Ian Healy and Callum Ferguson were getting stuck into Warner last night during the tea break. Pretty much saying his time was up and would be lucky to play the next test.
 
Your point was ridiculous, it didn’t deserve a better response.

Why is the metric for a replacement a “test standard” bat averaging 45+?

Because Warner sure as s**t isn’t anywhere near that.

Hell, I’d cop bringing him back for Aus conditions where he probably still is our best option.

It’d be like England not replacing Anderson after the last match.
I'm not endorsing Warner, you've just jumped to that conclusion
 
Right now, I have England slightly in front BUT it is all about the weather!

Not saying this will happen (so don't hang me if I'm wrong) but let's just go with the following weather scenario based on the Leeds forecast:

IF:

Saturday - rained out no play

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THEN:

Sunday - rain with aggregate playing time equivalent to 2 sessions.

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Monday - rain with aggregate playing time equivalent to 1 session.

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Sunday: The key here is simply for Australia to bat out the 1st session (equivalent). Run rate is NOT a factor, time and not losing wickets is the factor. This will essentially decide the test.
Being conservative to the conditions, IF Australia can make 60+ for loss of no more than 2 wickets we are then 6-200 with 2 sessions (equivalent) to go in the test.
Crucial time for England to bat (without pressure) is soaked up and we can still add to our lead.
Then Australia bat for as much as they can in the 2nd session (equivalent) and make say 30 odd before being bowled out. If they are still in by the time the rain sets in they can sleep on it and declare in the morning.

Sunday/Monday: Poms now likely have 1 and a half sessions (equivalent) to make 230+ in gloomy conditions!
Being conservative we can increase that to 2 sessions (equivalent) if day 5 isn't as wet as currently forecast but it will still be tough. 230+ in 2 sessions in gloomy conditions.

England face an almighty dilemma!

Do they bat to save the game and relinquish a chance to win the series or do they bat to win the test and risk being bowled out?
Australia is up 2 - 0 with no risk taking required, they can simply have a crack and try and bowl them out.
If they don't bowl England out it is still likely a draw and Australia can't lose the series.

Poms will have to make a big decision and in front of the Headingly crowd will be under pressure to have a go.

Delicious scenario.

General thoughts: even if it is mostly dry, there will still be annoying intermittent rain patches which means covers on, cover off. This soaks up a lot of time.
Depending on how much rain, the outfield will need to drain if it gets heavy. Even if there are stretched periods of no rain it will be gloomy and hard to bat and Australia will be the one with runs on the board.

The less playing time there is, the more it favours Australia.
I hope we don't get too carried away with scoring runs and get out cheaply as a result.
Block, soak up time, play the shots that are there - that's it.
Pressure slowly builds on England as time passes knowing rain will continue to come and go over the last two days.
 
What amount of tests do you play to get to that sweet spot where selectors, ex players in the media etc etc all talk like the idea of you being dropped is impossible .

Warner now , Tubby , M Waugh back in the day etc
 

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