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Autopsy AFL Round 19 - Another Loss
- Thread starter Maggie5
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- May 27, 2010
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It’s another season of no delivery. He needs to go. He doesn’t have the magic touch to win a premiership.
As expected 2019 another failure.
sr36
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Relax guys. The way we're playing at the moment is all part of the plan.
We're giving the competition a false sense of security.
Come finals, we turn the pressure up on the ball carrier, start hunting in numbers, and begin playing direct footy again.
We're giving the competition a false sense of security.
Come finals, we turn the pressure up on the ball carrier, start hunting in numbers, and begin playing direct footy again.
We have enough of our 'stars' playing where we should be competitive, including our 2 real matchwinners in DeGoey and Grundy.
Team is just physically and mentally soft and they are not given a decent structure to succeed.
Our B graders like Langdon are suddenly being elevated to Rance like importance, now they're not there. But we were also going to start dominating clearances once Sier came in then Adams.
In short, we are premiers in storytelling but mediocre in actually putting up results.
- Apr 18, 2015
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It's time to goooooooooo.. pause.. Nathan Buckley..
You are the weakest link.
You are the weakest link.
- Apr 18, 2015
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I did say he's got until 2020 to win us a premiership.. if they did sack him before then.. wouldn't bat an eyelid. Much prefer him gone.
He couldn't coach when we had a decent number of good quality players in the side. Nightmares of 2012.
He couldn't coach when we had a decent number of good quality players in the side. Nightmares of 2012.
By the time our season regains even the slightest glimmer of composure, if it even does, we're heading the way of an interstate elimination final. I'm not backing us to replicate the Bulldogs' 2016 season but... wait, yes I am.
TKiL
Cancelled
On current form we might beat the Suns - will struggle to win the other games
But you won the free kick count.
Anywho great first half by us, game fizzled out after that. Thought Howe and De Goey played well, unfortunately with De Goey when he plays midfield you lose his impact as a game changing forward. Something about robbing peter and paying paul..
Yeah, unfortunately we can't have 22 DeGoeys running around. I'm sure the Tigers wouldn't mind another Dusty running around as well.
Think the weather was always going to suit the Tigers more than us whilst it was still raining and wet. Even though we were comprehensively beaten, if we played you again in 4 weeks I'd still go into the game having no idea who wins.
TKiL
Cancelled
Neither can he apparently
Looking at the current top 4: Geelong, Brisbane, West Coast, Richmond.
We should've beaten Geelong. Beat Brisbane away. Have gone 1-1 against the WCE and Richmond.
Don't forget how good we can be when up and firing. Just hopefully our fortune turns.
We should've beaten Geelong. Beat Brisbane away. Have gone 1-1 against the WCE and Richmond.
Don't forget how good we can be when up and firing. Just hopefully our fortune turns.
Scodog10
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On a night like that I tend to look at who showed resilience in the face of adversity. By that I mean who stood up and played beyond their normal standard? I’ve got JDG, perhaps Treloar and Mayne on sheer weight of numbers and maybe Scharenberg for the job he did on Reiwoldt in the face of an avalanche of opportunity for Jack.
Let’s now provide that some context. Last night was season defining on the back of a very poor showing v GWS a win would put us a win and % ahead of Richmond with our next two matches against the bottom 2. Despite the opportunity presented to us we had, IMO, only one guy stand up. There’s a lot going on ATM that I’m not liking, but this team made me proud as a supporter because of their resilience through 2018 and they’re a shadow of that currently.
I have no idea how to fix things, but one thing I’m sure of the likes of T Brown, Lynch and Broomhead surely can’t be worse than Crocker, Cox and JT who’ve all received enough of a crack at it. The greatest frustration is that I think one of the biggest factors in our downturn has been the turnover of the best 22 which makes it very difficult to get a look at the guys I just mentioned without conceding the season. Amazingly we’ve had almost as many changes in our past 5 matches (17) as the rest of the year combined (19)!
Let’s now provide that some context. Last night was season defining on the back of a very poor showing v GWS a win would put us a win and % ahead of Richmond with our next two matches against the bottom 2. Despite the opportunity presented to us we had, IMO, only one guy stand up. There’s a lot going on ATM that I’m not liking, but this team made me proud as a supporter because of their resilience through 2018 and they’re a shadow of that currently.
I have no idea how to fix things, but one thing I’m sure of the likes of T Brown, Lynch and Broomhead surely can’t be worse than Crocker, Cox and JT who’ve all received enough of a crack at it. The greatest frustration is that I think one of the biggest factors in our downturn has been the turnover of the best 22 which makes it very difficult to get a look at the guys I just mentioned without conceding the season. Amazingly we’ve had almost as many changes in our past 5 matches (17) as the rest of the year combined (19)!
Scodog10
Brownlow Medallist
Come on Gimpy you’re better than engaging in this type of thread?! I’m by no means a devotee to the Buckley regime, but this thread is cringeworthy.
Without going and checking the stats, I actually thought that was one of the better games Josh Thomas has played this year. Just seemed a bit cleaner, made a few sane decisions and actually hit the scoreboard.
Some criticised him for trying to claim a mark on a ball that "obviously didn't go 15m" but if you watch it again you'd find none of our midfielders had actually spread and ran past for the handball receive, meaning he was forced to try and hold it in and force another stoppage.
At the end of the day, we kicked the first goal. Richmond kicked the next 9 goals in a row. We post by just over 5 goals.
Injuries or no injuries, we need to work this out. It has cost us 2 games in a row against good sides.
It's more than the personnel missing. Yes, injuries sucks, but even when we had a full list we were playing mostly uninspired football.
There's something fundamentally rotten within the club right now.
You can see it in the way 90% of our list has regressed, the way we lose the 1-on-1 contests, the way the opposition outnumbers us at the fall of every ball, the way we choose not to run hard forward in support, the way we refuse to run hard backwards in defence, the way we're too scared and risk-averse to take the game on, the way we're beaten to the hard ball time and time again, the way we win the hitouts every week yet still cop a smacking in the centre clearances, the way we throw up weak, easily-broken, one-armed tackles, the way we play reactive footy and let the opposition dictate terms, the way our gameplan and structure breaks down catastrophically week in, week out.
Even teams with bad lists can fight, scrap, and lose with spirit - see the Blues, the Bulldogs, the Saints to name a few. Right now, we're losing with a whimper. It wouldn't matter if we had a fully healthy list - any Collingwood 22 with its current mindset isn't going to do much damage.
There's something broken deep within the walls of the Collingwood FC. I'm not sure whether it's the players being content with just making a Grand Final, Bucks losing the confidence playing group like he has in the past, or just an indefinable malaise which has gripped the club as a whole.
But it's real. It exists. We're rotten right now. And unless we throw in a circuit breaker (and short of sacking the coach, which we definitely won't, there really isn't much else we can do), then it's the sort of rot that historically can't be turned around until the season ends.
Which is a real shame. It's a very weak competition in 2019 (as evidenced by our mediocre performances locking in 2nd spot on the ladder for most of the year). If we'd held it together with any semblance of form, we'd be in it up to our eyeballs. But we're just... rotten.
There's something fundamentally rotten within the club right now.
You can see it in the way 90% of our list has regressed, the way we lose the 1-on-1 contests, the way the opposition outnumbers us at the fall of every ball, the way we choose not to run hard forward in support, the way we refuse to run hard backwards in defence, the way we're too scared and risk-averse to take the game on, the way we're beaten to the hard ball time and time again, the way we win the hitouts every week yet still cop a smacking in the centre clearances, the way we throw up weak, easily-broken, one-armed tackles, the way we play reactive footy and let the opposition dictate terms, the way our gameplan and structure breaks down catastrophically week in, week out.
Even teams with bad lists can fight, scrap, and lose with spirit - see the Blues, the Bulldogs, the Saints to name a few. Right now, we're losing with a whimper. It wouldn't matter if we had a fully healthy list - any Collingwood 22 with its current mindset isn't going to do much damage.
There's something broken deep within the walls of the Collingwood FC. I'm not sure whether it's the players being content with just making a Grand Final, Bucks losing the confidence playing group like he has in the past, or just an indefinable malaise which has gripped the club as a whole.
But it's real. It exists. We're rotten right now. And unless we throw in a circuit breaker (and short of sacking the coach, which we definitely won't, there really isn't much else we can do), then it's the sort of rot that historically can't be turned around until the season ends.
Which is a real shame. It's a very weak competition in 2019 (as evidenced by our mediocre performances locking in 2nd spot on the ladder for most of the year). If we'd held it together with any semblance of form, we'd be in it up to our eyeballs. But we're just... rotten.
Scodog10
Brownlow Medallist
It’s a fair point. I wouldn’t be as positive towards his game as you, however I think Varcoe was the better option as an out. When the game was still up for grabs and they got that 9 goal run he was invisible just like last week.
lenny20 perhaps some of the less resilient mentally haven’t overcome last years GF result. Across the board all of the guys that have regressed played in that game. Food for thought. I’m probably not keen to use the term rotten because that seems harsh (NQR feels a better fit given we were 10-3 five weeks ago). I’m afraid like you I don’t think you can reset this late in the year...
