Anthony Albanese - How long? -2-

[The Cryptkeeper]

Like everything in an inadequately-regulated capitalist society, the rich get richer while the poor and vulnerable suck it up.

I support capitalism and having a market economy, but I support much better regulation of markets. The housing crisis and examples like the above are why.

Yep. 100%.

These parasites are literally paying themselves massive bonuses off the back of selling grannies home.

If you ain't filthy, stinking rich in retirement or extremely lucky healthwise then you are looking at a very undignified final stage of life. What astounds me is that there isn't more noise around this given those who are lucky enough to not die young are going to be staring into the ramifications of old age at some point.

 

[Todman]

A few more bad polls and he could be gone before the next budget.

Tanya for PM?

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

A few more bad polls and he could be gone before the next budget.

Tanya for PM?

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

you know if the coalition was in power they'd put together some sort of cash relief package that would help their mates more than the poors

but it would help the poors

because that is what they do, they use opportunities like this for political purposes, look at the start of the pandemic

ALP would support it to look good and we'd get something

but in opposition they will oppose anything presented because that is how they work

Of course Labor could still pass policy if they would work with the Greens

but they'd rather let policies fail and blame the Greens for it than the coalition because they are trying to keep the voters they are bleeding to the greens

note this isn't suggesting we'd be better if the coalition was in power, this is pointing out the problems they cause and how the ALP refuse to let the greens help them get around those problems

Reading your assessment, it just seems the ALP are spineless....stand up for what your values are.

 

[Millky95]

Isn't he still ahead in the polls?

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

2PP may show the coalition on par with labor currently but Dutton still is not popular.

Thats actually pretty grave for Albo. Only a handful of points in front of Dutton.....thats pretty poor...

 

[Gralin]

Reading your assessment, it just seems the ALP are spineless....stand up for what your values are.

What values is Dutton standing up for?

Other than the value of getting power?

Isn't he still ahead in the polls?

Personally he still has a large lead on Dutton as preferred leader, its the the 2 party preferred vote that they are now even in

 

[Gralin]

Thats actually pretty grave for Albo. Only a handful of points in front of Dutton.....thats pretty poor...

11 is a handful now?

Wow you math like Google doing their tax return

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

11 is a handful now?

Wow you math like Google doing their tax return

I didnt mean a numerical handful....

But either way....surely even a dullard with dead personality could slay dutton in the popularity polls....Albo is struggling.

 

[Millky95]

Personally he still has a large lead on Dutton as preferred leader, its the the 2 party preferred vote that they are now even in

But still a head, yeah? And at the same margin as the election ended up at?

Lot of doomers out there

 

[Gralin]

But still a head, yeah? And at the same margin as the election ended up at?

Lot of doomers out there

2PP is now 50 each in the lastest poll

primary vote for labor is going down, primary vote for coalition is going up

not equally, more more people dropping labor from first preference are moving to minor parties or independents than to the coalition

I didnt mean a numerical handful....

But either way....surely even a dullard with dead personality could slay dutton in the popularity polls....Albo is struggling.

sure you did

thats why you wrote it "Only a handful of points in front of Dutton"

you clearly meant it numerically

put them in a room with 100 people and 46 will vote for Albo as leader, 35 for Dutton and 19 wouldn't vote for either

Albo is clearly more popular personally than Dutton and that does matter more at an actual election, especially these days when everyone pretends its like a US presidential campaign

 

[Nuggets73]

I still have this to keep my perspective

.... so very true

 

[Rob R]

A few more bad polls and he could be gone before the next budget.

Tanya for PM?

Albo will still be PM after the next election. If he left, it would Marles or Chalmers as Plibersek is unelectable.

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[Todman]

What values is Dutton standing up for?

Other than the value of getting power?


Personally he still has a large lead on Dutton as preferred leader, its the the 2 party preferred vote that they are now even in

IIRC Dutton's budget reply

 

[Gralin]

IIRC Dutton's budget reply

Thanks Todd but I wasn't talking to you and this doesn't answer my question

but it does explain some of your views thanks

 

[peetoo]

Dutton is not the useless current government... It is that simple.

The same reason Albanese won the election, because he wasn't Scott Morrison. The primary vote at the last election showed that Albanese is the prime Minister no-one wanted.... Now that is coming home to roost in 2PP!

Don't get me started on his referendum he spent 6 months telling the public how we should vote while seemingly ignoring cost of living, only for the referendum to be called a loss in approximately 1 hour!

How can he be so bad?

Unlike Morrison he didn’t suspend parliament except for his pet project. I don’t see the comparisons

 

[peetoo]

The "Teals" are greens with more money.

"Wet" Liberals shouldn't vote for them again.

Speaking for kooyong, the green and labor tactical voters probably would have booted fryzo anyway, rgardless of wet liberals.

But apparently now kooyong voters are flush and out of touch with ‘battlers’ so who knows

 

[peetoo]

Handsome boy's prime ministership will end if Dutton announces a pro nuclear power policy or a massive cut in migration.

Do you believe he would deliver? Cos the track record is not. Just diversion tactics

 

[Todman]

Speaking for kooyong, the green and labor tactical voters probably would have booted fryzo anyway, rgardless of wet liberals.

But apparently now kooyong voters are flush and out of touch with ‘battlers’ so who knows

The Teals are one trick ponies, and they have played their trick.

 

[peetoo]

A few more bad polls and he could be gone before the next budget.

Tanya for PM?

When the libs flipped trice and the polls proved to be way off

 

[Not Important]

Speaking for kooyong, the green and labor tactical voters probably would have booted fryzo anyway, rgardless of wet liberals.

But apparently now kooyong voters are flush and out of touch with ‘battlers’ so who knows

the guy just mouths conservative talking points.

 

[peetoo]

The Teals are one trick ponies, and they have played their trick.

And what was your prediction before the election?

 

[Todman]

And what was your prediction before the last election?

I thought they were a ploy to split the vote away from the Coalition. You notice they only ran against the Coalition. ​

A bad copy and paste from Wiki.​

2022 federal election[edit source]​

Further information: 2022 Australian federal election
Incumbents listed in italics did not re-contest their seats.

† denotes an incumbent MP


House of Representatives

Candidate	State	Division	Incumbent MP	Incumbent party	% 1st pref.	% 2CP	Elected
Jo Dyer	SA	Boothby	Nicolle Flint		Liberal	6.54%	—
Nicolette Boele	NSW	Bradfield	Paul Fletcher		Liberal	20.89%	45.77%
Kate Hook	NSW	Calare	Andrew Gee		National	20.40%	40.32%
Claire Ferres Miles	Vic	Casey	Tony Smith		Liberal	8.34%	—
Caz Heise	NSW	Cowper	Pat Conaghan		National	26.26%	47.68%
Kate Chaney	WA	Curtin	Celia Hammond		Liberal	29.46%	51.26%
Despi O'Connor	Vic	Flinders	Greg Hunt		Liberal	7.24%	—
Zoe Daniel	Vic	Goldstein	Tim Wilson		Liberal	34.47%	52.87%
Liz Habermann	SA	Grey	Rowan Ramsey		Liberal	11.26%	—
Georgia Steele	NSW	Hughes	Craig Kelly		United Australia	14.33%	—
Monique Ryan	Vic	Kooyong	Josh Frydenberg		Liberal	40.29%	52.94%
Sophie Scamps	NSW	Mackellar	Jason Falinski		Liberal	38.11%	52.50%
Kylea Tink	NSW	North Sydney	Trent Zimmerman		Liberal	25.20%	52.92%
Hanabeth Luke	NSW	Page	Kevin Hogan		National	13.13%	—
Alex Dyson	Vic	Wannon	Dan Tehan		Liberal	19.29%	46.08%
Zali Steggall†	NSW	Warringah	Zali Steggall		Independent	44.82%	60.96%
Allegra Spender	NSW	Wentworth	Dave Sharma		Liberal	35.77%	54.20%

 

[nut]

Summarised well.
Corporate greed

 

[Bloods86]

I thought they were a ploy to split the vote away from the Coalition. You notice they only ran against the Coalition. ​

A bad copy and paste from Wiki.​

2022 federal election[edit source]​

Further information: 2022 Australian federal election
Incumbents listed in italics did not re-contest their seats.

† denotes an incumbent MP


House of Representatives

Candidate	State	Division	Incumbent MP	Incumbent party	% 1st pref.	% 2CP	Elected
Jo Dyer	SA	Boothby	Nicolle Flint		Liberal	6.54%	—
Nicolette Boele	NSW	Bradfield	Paul Fletcher		Liberal	20.89%	45.77%
Kate Hook	NSW	Calare	Andrew Gee		National	20.40%	40.32%
Claire Ferres Miles	Vic	Casey	Tony Smith		Liberal	8.34%	—
Caz Heise	NSW	Cowper	Pat Conaghan		National	26.26%	47.68%
Kate Chaney	WA	Curtin	Celia Hammond		Liberal	29.46%	51.26%
Despi O'Connor	Vic	Flinders	Greg Hunt		Liberal	7.24%	—
Zoe Daniel	Vic	Goldstein	Tim Wilson		Liberal	34.47%	52.87%
Liz Habermann	SA	Grey	Rowan Ramsey		Liberal	11.26%	—
Georgia Steele	NSW	Hughes	Craig Kelly		United Australia	14.33%	—
Monique Ryan	Vic	Kooyong	Josh Frydenberg		Liberal	40.29%	52.94%
Sophie Scamps	NSW	Mackellar	Jason Falinski		Liberal	38.11%	52.50%
Kylea Tink	NSW	North Sydney	Trent Zimmerman		Liberal	25.20%	52.92%
Hanabeth Luke	NSW	Page	Kevin Hogan		National	13.13%	—
Alex Dyson	Vic	Wannon	Dan Tehan		Liberal	19.29%	46.08%
Zali Steggall†	NSW	Warringah	Zali Steggall		Independent	44.82%	60.96%
Allegra Spender	NSW	Wentworth	Dave Sharma		Liberal	35.77%	54.20%

Have you stopped to consider why a group of candidates, largely having climate change, gender equality and corruption as their main or significant platforms opposed incumbent Coalition (and 1 UAP) members instead of Labor? Something something attitude, policy and recent actions.

Also, the label "teal independent" is literally from the fact that they were challenging "blue" seats, many with centre-right economic positions, but with "greener" environmental/social positions, and for some, based on personal choices over branding (likely along similar lines as above for the early runners, publicity and association for latecomers). They were essentially running as moderate or nuanced Liberals in many cases (so not quite blue).

Why then would you refer to someone challenging Labor as "teal"? There were independents challenging incumbent Labor MPs, they just don't fit the label...