Anthony Albanese - How long? -2-

[AlwaysHawks15]

They're going to switch to the Greens Party

Yes and it's basically going to be lost in the muck so to speak so what will it achieve? The Greens will never have enough leverage to do any meaningful policy that's if their talk is genuine and not just political self righteousness. Im pro Palestine BTW but I can understand the tread carefully position Labor is taking as it's a very sensitive issue.

 

[The Punter]

Yes and it's basically going to be lost in the muck so to speak so what will it achieve? The Greens will never have enough leverage to do any meaningful policy that's if their talk is genuine and not just political self righteousness. Im pro Palestine BTW but I can understand the tread carefully position Labor is taking as it's a very sensitive issue.

Both the major political parties are edging closer to the loss of a critical mass of support that will render 2PP redundant. Low 30s primaries should be panic times for the majors.

 

[peetoo]

Both the major political parties are edging closer to the loss of a critical mass of support that will render 2PP redundant. Low 30s primaries should be panic times for the majors.

It won’t be redundant, but it will be very unpredictable

I think it’s very relevant that the coalition agreement is between up to 5 offical parties

The uk election tells us instability can easily happen

 

[The Punter]

It won’t be redundant, but it will be very unpredictable

I think it’s very relevant that the coalition agreement is between up to 5 offical parties

The uk election tells us instability can easily happen

The Liberal Party of Australia
The National Party of Australia
The Liberal National Party of Queensland
The Country Liberal Party (NT)

Who is the fifth?

 

[Rob R]

Stating the bleeding obvious to say it but the Labor Party is likely to face severe electoral consequences for events of the past week, especially in western Sydney.

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it will have almost no impact. Very few people would have this as an important enough issue to change their vote and the option in those seats are the LNP

https://www.ipsos.com/en-au/issuesmonitor

At most Greens might pick up an inner city seat or two.

albos failures on cost of living would hurt more but Dutton the idiot keeps changing the agenda to vote losers like nuclear power

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[Ghost Patrol]

The Liberal Party of Australia
The National Party of Australia
The Liberal National Party of Queensland
The Country Liberal Party (NT)

Who is the fifth?

One Nation

 

[peetoo]

The Liberal Party of Australia
The National Party of Australia
The Liberal National Party of Queensland
The Country Liberal Party (NT)

Who is the fifth?

I don’t recall. Maybe at one time. But as you say only those 4 at last fed election

 

[peetoo]

Its too easy to suggest a group of immigrants would vote as one block.

They may be religious but one reason they left country of birth may have been not liking religion dominating politics

Another example is Cubans in the USA, tend to be very anti left wing

 

[Gralin]

They're going to switch to the Greens Party

i think they'd be more likely to vote for a local independent than a greens member

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Both the major political parties are edging closer to the loss of a critical mass of support that will render 2PP redundant. Low 30s primaries should be panic times for the majors.

The majors have themselves to blame for that. Too much time worrying about what they think people are worried about instead what actually worries people.

 

[Sttew]

It transpires ALL Labor candidates, including Fatima Payman, signed a pledge before the last Federal election to abide by caucus solidarity and remain party members or be liable to repay money spent on their campaign

 

[Saint]

It transpires ALL Labor candidates, including Fatima Payman, signed a pledge before the last Federal election to abide by caucus solidarity and remain party members or be liable to repay money spent on their campaign

Oh, well that trumps their sworn oath to the Parliament, does it?

What if the caucus asks them to start another Iraq War?

What Dutton is doing, with his Supermarket announcement today, is highlight the complete passivity of Albanese. While Albanese is having an inquiry, Dutton is proposing something (Something stupid, but few people will care). Same thing on Nuclear. It might be a stupid idea, but at least Dutton is proposing something.

Albanese didn't even do anything about the tax cuts until it seemed like everyone forced him to. Maybe Jenny M even called him up, by the time he acted.

He's inactive on Palestine, even though he has a history of knowing the right thing to do.

Albanese is being seen as somebody who struggles to do anything even when he knows what the right thing to do is. Dutton might be proposing the wrong thing, but he's giving the impression he'll do something. (Even though they did nothing in 9 years in power about any of these issues).

If Albanese doesn't get on the front foot soon with a new policy, he'll continue to slide in the polls.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Oh, well that trumps their sworn oath to the Parliament, does it?

What if the caucus asks them to start another Iraq War?

What Dutton is doing, with his Supermarket announcement today, is highlight the complete passivity of Albanese. While Albanese is having an inquiry, Dutton is proposing something (Something stupid, but few people will care). Same thing on Nuclear. It might be a stupid idea, but at least Dutton is proposing something.

Albanese didn't even do anything about the tax cuts until it seemed like everyone forced him to. Maybe Jenny M even called him up, by the time he acted.

He's inactive on Palestine, even though he has a history of knowing the right thing to do.

Albanese is being seen as somebody who struggles to do anything even when he knows what the right thing to do is. Dutton might be proposing the wrong thing, but he's giving the impression he'll do something. (Even though they did nothing in 9 years in power about any of these issues).

If Albanese doesn't get on the front foot soon with a new policy, he'll continue to slide in the polls.

If you don't want spineless puppets, you need to vote another party in.

Granted , the Labor caucus WILL thrash out issues in house before they go to parliment.
If the Caucus asks them to start a war , its pretty likely the majority of those MP's want that war.

 

[Gralin]

Oh, well that trumps their sworn oath to the Parliament, does it?

What if the caucus asks them to start another Iraq War?

What Dutton is doing, with his Supermarket announcement today, is highlight the complete passivity of Albanese. While Albanese is having an inquiry, Dutton is proposing something (Something stupid, but few people will care). Same thing on Nuclear. It might be a stupid idea, but at least Dutton is proposing something.

Albanese didn't even do anything about the tax cuts until it seemed like everyone forced him to. Maybe Jenny M even called him up, by the time he acted.

He's inactive on Palestine, even though he has a history of knowing the right thing to do.

Albanese is being seen as somebody who struggles to do anything even when he knows what the right thing to do is. Dutton might be proposing the wrong thing, but he's giving the impression he'll do something. (Even though they did nothing in 9 years in power about any of these issues).

If Albanese doesn't get on the front foot soon with a new policy, he'll continue to slide in the polls.

yes both parties are now the masters of better things are possible from opposition and sorry we can't do anything while in power

 

[Not Important]

It transpires ALL Labor candidates, including Fatima Payman, signed a pledge before the last Federal election to abide by caucus solidarity and remain party members or be liable to repay money spent on their campaign

authoritative source?

 

[Saint]

yes both parties are now the masters of better things are possible from opposition and sorry we can't do anything while in power

The whole political inaction because of fear or interest group attacks and fear campaigns should have died out by now but still seems to be the prevailing mentality. Probably because our politicians are now 3rd rate lawyers who only know other Uni Law graduates and can't related to anybody in the "lower" 80%.

The lack of ability to sell something or lead is really telling if Dutton and Albanese are the best we've got.

But I guess the US Presidential debate makes our leaders look like possibly Masters of the Universe.

 

[Gralin]

The whole political inaction because of fear or interest group attacks and fear campaigns should have died out by now but still seems to be the prevailing mentality. Probably because our politicians are now 3rd rate lawyers who only know other Uni Law graduates and can't related to anybody in the "lower" 80%.

The lack of ability to sell something or lead is really telling if Dutton and Albanese are the best we've got.

But I guess the US Presidential debate makes our leaders look like possibly Masters of the Universe.

I think it's basically two things

In opposition telling people what they want to hear to get power

In power doing what they actually want while pretending they either never said what they did in opposition or it can no longer be achieved

 

[Taylor]

In power doing what they actually want while pretending they either never said what they did in opposition or it can no longer be achieved

Or never could be achieved, but was still sold - or allowed to be assumed to be sold - to the voters.

Politicians are politicians first. We need some social levers that can be pulled to circumvent politicians dawdling or otherwise shirking their mandates.

Whether that is direct democratic capabilities of enough signatures registered on an issue taking it to referendum at the next general election or allowing for representatives to be recalled by their electorates.

 

[Sttew]

authoritative source?

https://thenightly.com.au/politics/...or-colleagues-after-palestine-vote-c-15212554

 

[Xtreme]

But I guess the US Presidential debate makes our leaders look like possibly Masters of the Universe.

Unlike He-Man, Albo lacks the courage of his convictions. He needs to grow a pair and lead the country.

At least Trump is set in his ways. It's like Albo is hiding behind a couch, too scared to make a move. His leadership has not been great.

 

[QuietB]

Had to chuckle at the Coalition criticising Albo for not going to a NATO summit in Washington. Like the moronic "Airbus Albo" era of pearl-clutching never happened.

They will complain about anything and everything. They are the whinging Aussie

 

[RonSon]

Labor's coward position on this is going to cost them

Unfortunately because the liberals are so stuffed they don't really care.

They will just make government with the teals and greens that centrist/ left leaning voters will move towards.

 

[Not Important]

https://thenightly.com.au/politics/...or-colleagues-after-palestine-vote-c-15212554

“authoritative” means “arising from primary authority; official”. in this instance from labor party rules, regs, guidelines etc. what it does not mean is re-publishing stuff from right-wing (stokes) media. fail.

 

[Sttew]

“authoritative” means “arising from primary authority; official”. in this instance from labor party rules, regs, guidelines etc. what it does not mean is re-publishing stuff from right-wing (stokes) media. fail.

Coming from someone who retweets like you’re on commission, your post is rich!!

Why would you question the accuracy of what was reported? I would be 100% certain it’s accurate

 

[Gralin]

Unfortunately because the liberals are so stuffed they don't really care.

They will just make government with the teals and greens that centrist/ left leaning voters will move towards.

Yeah I don't think so.

Labor have refused to work with anyone, they'd rather be in opposition than form government with the greens

The teals if they could get away with it maybe

The issue is their current brand of doing nothing during a cost of living crisis leads to people thinking maybe the coalition will do something

You see it in polling

A bunch of Labor seats are in danger over their stance on Palestine and treatment of Payman and they don't have to go to the coalition for Labor to lose government either