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I agree in a moral sense. But the deaths aren’t the first and they won’t be the last.
We all know that don’t we?
We all know that don’t we?
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give I was replying to your post in the thread you posted it in, I have to ask why you think this is an appropriate deflection
Israel/Palestine was at it before I was born, and will be long after I'm gone. For most here in Australia it really is a non issue. The middle east will never ever be 'fixed' so I'm sure the majority of voters here want our politicians to do actual work here for the people they representYou projected on me there. I was guessing at voter interest in this, even though some pollies want to play it for all it’s worth
nah we're talking about labors actions in relation to Payman and you're happy to pontificate on the topic as being irrelevant but now you think it deserves a thread rather than respond?I have seen it s done often in bigfooty. It does deserve a thread don’t you think?
spoken like someone that wants to think our position doesn't matter
Israel/Palestine was at it before I was born, and will be long after I'm gone. For most here in Australia it really is a non issue. The middle east will never ever be 'fixed' so I'm sure the majority of voters here want our politicians to do actual work here for the people they represent
In b4 'we can chew gum and walk at the same time'. Sorry, our politicians have proven over many years that they can't
Israel/Palestine was at it before I was born, and will be long after I'm gone. For most here in Australia it really is a non issue. The middle east will never ever be 'fixed' so I'm sure the majority of voters here want our politicians to do actual work here for the people they represent
In b4 'we can chew gum and walk at the same time'. Sorry, our politicians have proven over many years that they can't
I'm going off your own posts peetooReally. Let me call you on this. How do you know what I am thinking or want to think? Whatever.
You really don’t know. All this ‘part of the problem not part of the solution’ bulldust.
And the Israel Palestine situation has meandered on for most of that time. I think most Australians would think we have very little influence there, and are bemused by people living here demanding that we can.
Even our looking the other way has little practical effect
where you try to suggest that government action or inaction on this topic is equally irrelevant and nobody caresThe government is playing a diplomatic straight bat on it. You do realise this has been going on for decades?
Back at you why is this issue ‘special’ over the dozens of issues around the world?
I'm going off your own posts peetoo
where you try to suggest that government action or inaction on this topic is equally irrelevant and nobody cares
whats Australia policy in this matterAnd I stand by all my comments. And our politicians have broken with Australian policy in this matter (labor being the closest) could even suggest this disunity blunts our influence even more.
Dutton couldn’t get a kippah hat on quick enough.
whats Australia policy in this matter
When the next generation of jihadists who've been radicalised by this turn up maybe some people will wish that they'd paid more attention.Do you want to know or are you testing me? I don’t take a big interest in those matters, and as I suggest, I believe a huge section of Australians don’t either. That more my point than showing how much I know on the matter
Seems a bit Islamaphobic.When the next generation of jihadists who've been radicalised by this turn up maybe some people will wish that they'd paid more attention.
i want to know what policy you think they have gone againstDo you want to know or are you testing me? I don’t take a big interest in those matters, and as I suggest, I believe a huge section of Australians don’t either. That more my point than showing how much I know on the matter
Because 30,000 innocent people have died, being bombed by a Government we support diplomatically and with military support). We should stop that. Is there any reason we shouldn't?The government is playing a diplomatic straight bat on it. You do realise this has been going on for decades?
Back at you why is this issue ‘special’ over the dozens of issues around the world?
West Papua, we're supporting Indonesia in that one right now as wellBecause 30,000 innocent people have died, being bombed by a Government we support diplomatically and with military support). We should stop that. Is there any reason we shouldn't?
If there's another genocide we're supporting elsewhere in the dozens of places around the world, I'd love to hear about it and I would most likely oppose it in the relevant thread.
You want Islamophobia, I give you the Australian Jewish Association. Why would a Jewish Association be hosting a speaker about "Impact of Muslim Immigration"? I would have assumed a Jewish organisation would be focused on less racism, not more. Also, I think the "impact of Jewish Immigration" would be an interesting speaking tour led by a Palestinian.Seems a bit Islamaphobic.
Yay diversity!Good luck to the next Muslim who wants to run for one of the major parties
yeah sure, the alp feels the need to respond to a a plodder making a claim on a forum. a claim the plodder can only support by a link to a right-wing propaganda outfit. thanks for proving my point. appreciated.LOL. If it wasn’t true don’t you think someone, anyone from the ALP, would deny it? FMD.
Would you prefer to see this sort of thing?The events of the last couple of weeks have not been contrary to the history of the ALP.
We have seen an avowed defence of how the ALP operate in this thread: I'm surprised it took so long. Doug Cameron makes the same case. Basically the belief is that they cannot achieve what they want to achieve if they aren't 100% together. The caucus decided which way to vote in the same way they decide who is in the Cabinet.
The ALP is sort of uniquely poorly placed to deal with a diversity of opinion. And as always, the ALP's problems tend to be structural.