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the rich are getting richer and the poor can eat cake. first move should be to cut out negative gearing.
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Not enough bad cell mates to go around unfortunately. And it’s a weird premis to use as a deterrent
Something else Hollywood ha a lot to answer for
I vote Greens these days and maybe one day they'll be able to really change the system.
Talk about a storm in a teacup, it's not like he's adding to his portfolio... He's selling up in Sydney and buying a place in his fiancé's home town.
Honestly, there would have been "backlash" or "outrage" if he'd bought a place for $800k or $1m. He earns well above the median wage, so what's the issue with buying a property well above the media house value?
I'd be London to a brick that if he had have bought an "affordable" property in the same area the usual suspects would have been jumping up and down saying "he's the Prime Minister and he earns heaps of money, why is he stealing a house that a battler could buy".
Talk about a yawn fest.
Whilst it's completely hypocritical given Albo is not the only real estate baron in Parliament, the backlash is emblematic. Emblematic of these times.
We have:
How is someone supposed to feel if they can't afford rent, have no realistic prospect of ever buying a home and they see someone in a really nice house that cost F all, relatively speaking?
We have:
- those who are property barons, owning many investment properties and their own home
- those who are the 'mum and dad investors' with (say) one investment property and (say) their own home with a cheap-ish mortgage because they bought ages ago and their income has since increased
- those who own their own home with no investment properties, maybe a big mortgage since they bought relatively recently
- those who rent but not struggling to pay it
- those who rent but are constantly having to move and struggling to pay
- those that are homeless.
How is someone supposed to feel if they can't afford rent, have no realistic prospect of ever buying a home and they see someone in a really nice house that cost F all, relatively speaking?
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Genuine question then, how much should they be paid?
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I reckon an MP should be paid the median of the electorate they represent.
Good luck with that
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An MP should be a representation of the area.
If it takes a few MPs earning 65k to belt the real world through thier simple brains then so be it.
Id strip the taxpayer funded cars for suburban MPs to boot. They can buy thier own cars or catch the bus like everyone else.
The photos of the house isn’t doing him any favours.
One road back from the coast and this probably doesn't come up.
One road back from the coast and this probably doesn't come up.
Victorian Liberal MPs are bound by the party constitution to live in their electorates unless their residences get moved out of their electorates by a redistribution BTW.
You're not going to get better MPs by reducing their remuneration, and no amount of wishing it was different will change that.
I am on the record - abolish all allowances, grant MPs a lump sum to operate their offices with no restrictions, and make all claims against that sum publicly disclosable.
They want to employ extra staff? Fine if they have the cash.
They want to spend it on marble coffee tables? Fine, but everyone will find out.
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The problem is the remuneration they get now is clearly causing them to become out of touch with the electorate. To me lived experience is the best experience.
The median wage in Australia is around 1500 a week.
A backbench MP is on 4000 odd a week.
How does a backbench MP know what cost of living looks like?
How does a backbench MP know what struggling to put food on the table is like?
How does a backbench MP know what mortgage stress looks like?
How does a backbench MP know how difficult it is to rent or buy a house?
How can you fix these things if you've got no clue what it's like? You really can't. Data only tells you so much. If you're sitting comfortable on over 200k a year you're not struggling.
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We don’t need decision makers who can only percieve issues they have first hand experience with.
Nor do we need a PM who needs to ‘ask Jenny’ before things become clear. Jenny is probably more out of touch than you.
The system can counsel peoples opinions, the leaders need to be imaginative enough to ‘walk in someone’s shoes’ but then have the skills to work the political system ‘for all Australians’ as they like to say
Nor do we need a PM who needs to ‘ask Jenny’ before things become clear. Jenny is probably more out of touch than you.
The system can counsel peoples opinions, the leaders need to be imaginative enough to ‘walk in someone’s shoes’ but then have the skills to work the political system ‘for all Australians’ as they like to say
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Maybe I could get behind this argument if there was some minimum criteria for experience before being eligible to be an MP, and then the median salary was tied only to people in the electorate who meet that same minimum criteria.
Obviously the 1000s of teenagers working checkout or fast food matter and deserve a voice... but I don't reckon that extends to the bell curve of those who reasonably and realistically tick the boxes to make good decisions about running a country.
100% agree with:
Pay a good amount of money. Enough to pay a salary to lure an appropriately qualified person into the role and pay for all the staff and expenses that come with the role. And let each MP manage that lump sum themselves as they see fit.
No rewards for being clever enough to rort your expenses... the amount of money is yours either way so if you piss it up the wall it's yourself who loses not the taxpayer.
Extra budgets and allowances for formal roles as a minister, member of a committee, member of a cabinet, etc. but again a set allowance and a report on how the money was spent save for if there's a national interest in maintaining non-disclosure e.g. for security reasons (still disclosed cost within the budget if not the precise reason for spend).
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Is this the same press who sneered at new PM Gillard over her cream brick 1950s bungalow in sunshine?
The shtick changes, but the labor PM target remains the same
The shtick changes, but the labor PM target remains the same
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Well the road will be nice when he goes there at least
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Out of touch Prime Ministers have always been fertile ground for the media (loaf of bread, litre of milk etc), and considering that most of what I've read about the PM's cliffside home has been from The Guardian, I'd be shocked if they didn't go a Liberal PM just as hard.
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