Australia vs India First Test - Adelaide Oval - Dec 9 - Dec 13

[The_Reaper]

Why was he chosen for the ODIs then?

Also, for what it's worth, most of the pundits have him one-out-one-back as we speak.

Because it's a once off replacement and they wanted the other options playing shield.

Same reason I don't read anything about Dunk playing the T20s

 

[The_Reaper]

Convenience is the answer, he's not in the 1 X 1 anymore, more likely buried 3 pegs, with a wall of contenders around him. If Haddin pulled the pin tomorrow, Nevill and Whiteman would be the decision. The selectors saw the six state keepers as all being about the same with Whiteman potentially ahead on a few scores.

And it would have to be Nevill at the moment due to Whiteman's current lack of form.

Though a bad season could be good for Whiteman in the long run. He just need to work hard and turn things around and that will be a good experience

 

[AM]

Because it's a once off replacement and they wanted the other options playing shield.

Same reason I don't read anything about Dunk playing the T20s

Don't compare hit-n-giggle with the more serious one day form.

The selectors could have gone for any of those speculated here but went for Wade. And it wasn't for his batting cos that hadn't been that flash at that point.

Former glove man and current SA coach Darren Berry has Wade as first choice and Nevill as the other main contender for what it's worth.

Anyway, as I've suggested, Haddin will be around for sometime providing his form holds up. Very handy back-up for Smith while he has his 'L' plates on.

 

[The_Reaper]

Don't compare hit-n-giggle with the more serious one day form.

The selectors could have gone for any of those speculated here but went for Wade. And it wasn't for his batting cos that hadn't been that flash at that point.

Former glove man and current SA coach Darren Berry has Wade as first choice and Nevill as the other main contender for what it's worth.

Anyway, as I've suggested, Haddin will be around for sometime providing his form holds up. Very handy back-up for Smith while he has his 'L' plates on.

Darren Berry thinks Tim Ludeman is in contention for what it''s worth.

Selectors went with Wade for two hit-n-giggle ODIs in Perth.
My view is that they haven't made the decision between Nevill and Whiteman at the time and felt both were better served playing sheffield shield that round.

 

[Power Raid]

Which Test are you referring to? Marsh is the replacement, Hazelwood will replace Siddle.

thanks

I just heard they were in the squad rather than selected in the team

thanks again

 

[AM]

Darren Berry thinks Tim Ludeman is in contention for what it''s worth.

Selectors went with Wade for two hit-n-giggle ODIs in Perth.
My view is that they haven't made the decision between Nevill and Whiteman at the time and felt both were better served playing sheffield shield that round.

Gave me a good laugh anyway.

Not what Trevor Hohns said btw. But what would he know.

This has become circular. You have your view. Mine differs.

 

[Doodlesweaver]

Watson is well.

Now that Mitch Marsh is actually providing a superior option if the selectors must insist on having an allrounder he shouldn't be in the team.

Bit early to say that Mitch is a superior option. He missed out on a big opportunity to get a decent score in the first innings. Played the team role in the second, but he'll have to kick on with the bat at some time.

Hopefully on helpful pitches he'll pick up the odd wicket too. I'd say he's unproven as yet.

 

[Underarm]

Darren Berry thinks Tim Ludeman is in contention for what it''s worth.

Selectors went with Wade for two hit-n-giggle ODIs in Perth.
My view is that they haven't made the decision between Nevill and Whiteman at the time and felt both were better served playing sheffield shield that round.

Dunk was there for the hit and giggles t20's, Wade played all 5 ODI's. And i think that carries more weight than you are giving it.

IMO if Haddin is injured, Wade takes over for the world cup and he fills in until then in the Tests as well. He's good enough.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

He's good enough.

As a top 6 batsman yes, as a keeper....NO!

 

[Art Vandelay_]

My info is very different to yours.

With all due respect if I took the word of everyone on this site who had 'info' or 'inside sources' Ablett would be back at Geelong as would Boak, Duncan would be at WCE, you get my point?

 

[Power Raid]

Bit early to say that Mitch is a superior option. He missed out on a big opportunity to get a decent score in the first innings. Played the team role in the second, but he'll have to kick on with the bat at some time.

Hopefully on helpful pitches he'll pick up the odd wicket too. I'd say he's unproven as yet.

you're right it is early but I'm confident he is already better but only time will tell

 

[ROOTA#6]

With all due respect if I took the word of everyone on this site who had 'info' or 'inside sources' Ablett would be back at Geelong as would Boak, Duncan would be at WCE, you get my point?

When it comes to info regarding vic players I'm backing the royboy more times than not

 

[The_Reaper]

With all due respect if I took the word of everyone on this site who had 'info' or 'inside sources' Ablett would be back at Geelong as would Boak, Duncan would be at WCE, you get my point?

western royboy did manage to predict Agar's test selection before he was even added in the Ashes squad.

And Mitch Marsh's selection (though that was a bit easier to predict due the selectors known love for him and his brother).

And told us that Pattinson was remodeling his technique before it was publicly revealed.

He has a good track record for being correct more often than not with his mail.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

When it comes to info regarding vic players I'm backing the royboy more times than not

western royboy did manage to predict Agar's test selection before he was even added in the Ashes squad.

And Mitch Marsh's selection (though that was a bit easier to predict due the selectors known love for him and his brother).

And told us that Pattinson was remodeling his technique before it was publicly revealed.

He has a good track record for being correct more often than not with his mail.

That all may be true and I did try to be as respectful as possible, but from my pov I take any comment on an anonymous forum which infers anything more than 'opinion' with a grain of salt.

He may have a reliable source. I just don't take sources too seriously, I wait for proof.

 

[Hellgood]

That all may be true and I did try to be as respectful as possible, but from my pov I take any comment on an anonymous forum which infers anything more than 'opinion' with a grain of salt.

He may have a reliable source. I just don't take sources too seriously, I wait for proof.

I'm comfortable believing what he posts, it's proven exceptionally accurate in the past.

I would expect however, that Whiteman's fairly lukewarm start to the season as well as Wade's strong form in the Shield would have caused the selectors viewpoint to have altered since royboy got his mail.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I'm comfortable believing what he posts, it's proven exceptionally accurate in the past.

I would expect however, that Whiteman's fairly lukewarm start to the season as well as Wade's strong form in the Shield would have caused the selectors viewpoint to have altered since royboy got his mail.

Wade's form with the bat will have no influence- the selectors knew he could bat when they dropped him. His keeping was Germaint Jones like before, and whilst it may have marginally improved, I just don't see it. In tests you can't drop catches.

 

[Shiv]

I wonder what effect captaincy will have on Smith's batting. I personally hope his batting doesn't suffer. Also, what effect will this have on warner? He was essentially snubbed for smith and didn't even get the vice captaincy position.

It Will also be really interesting to see how dhoni captains in this test and how the players respond to his captaincy after what they experienced under kohli.

Since smith is captain, I don't think they will rest Harris. They'll want his experience as a way to assist/ease the pressure on Smith's captaincy.

 

[The_Reaper]

I wonder what effect captaincy will have on Smith's batting. I personally hope his batting doesn't suffer. Also, what effect will this have on warner? He was essentially snubbed for smith and didn't even get the vice captaincy position.

It Will also be really interesting to see how dhoni captains in this test and how the players respond to his captaincy after what they experienced under kohli.

Since smith is captain, I don't think they will rest Harris. They'll want his experience as a way to assist/ease the pressure on Smith's captaincy.

He averages 105 as Captain in Sheffield Shield (very small sample though)

 

[frankrizzo]

That all may be true and I did try to be as respectful as possible, but from my pov I take any comment on an anonymous forum which infers anything more than 'opinion' with a grain of salt.

He may have a reliable source. I just don't take sources too seriously, I wait for proof.

Well it's not like he's some hit and run troll trying to sucker people to get a little attention, he's a respected poster who has been here for years and seems to be on the money.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Well it's not like he's some hit and run troll trying to sucker people to get a little attention, he's a respected poster who has been here for years and seems to be on the money.

Never said he wasn't.

I'm just exercising my right to not take something said in an Internet forum as gospel...so to speak.

Nothing personal.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Fair enough maybe he's just a really really really lucky bloke who bullshits on cricket forums for kicks yet gets most things right.

Maybe he's right more often that not, I actually don't care whether he is or isn't. It's not actually the point.

Just I see way too many people supposedly in the know who will say things like 'my sister's best friend is dating player <insert name>'s brother and he's definitely leaving the club' etc.

So I'm adopting the null hypothesis. Essentially you want to convince me of something. Prove it.

oh and btw any cats board posters who read this... um... er don't tell Partridge okay

 

[western royboy]

Maybe he's right more often that not, I actually don't care whether he is or isn't. It's not actually the point.

Just I see way too many people supposedly in the know who will say things like 'my sister's best friend is dating player <insert name>'s brother and he's definitely leaving the club' etc.

So I'm adopting the null hypothesis. Essentially you want to convince me of something. Prove it.

oh and btw any cats board posters who read this... um... er don't tell Partridge okay

No drama - I will add that I actually got the entire Ashes squad correct last year, but my key source is no longer chair of the nsp and some of the thinking may have changed and obviously performances have a major impact. Nevertheless, Haddin will not be moved on anytime soon and the view that prevailed that the next one in line was not Wade but more likely Whiteman or Nevill, fwiw.

 

[Hellgood]

Wade's form with the bat will have no influence- the selectors knew he could bat when they dropped him. His keeping was Germaint Jones like before, and whilst it may have marginally improved, I just don't see it. In tests you can't drop catches.

Geraint Jones was of a pretty similar ilk to Haddin. Capable of some absolutely outrageous takes behind the stumps, but just as prone to some staggeringly poor misses.

 

[western royboy]

Geraint Jones was of a pretty similar ilk to Haddin. Capable of some absolutely outrageous takes behind the stumps, but just as prone to some staggeringly poor misses.

Haddin's value to the team extends well beyond on field performances. That's reason he got back in there over Wade in the first place.

 

[carnthemlions]