Best Australian Test Quicks This Century

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Johnson’s career was hamstrung by his mental demons. First it was his Mum not approving of the woman he married and then later on it was Phillip Hughes’ death that took the fire out of his belly. I knew it at the time and he said as much after his retirement. That and the deliberate flattening of wickets to stop his effectiveness. Both here and abroad.

I always felt that Kohli wearing Johnsons first ball on the helmet was possibly a ploy. Took all of Mitch's sting out of him for the whole series.
 
I always felt that Kohli wearing Johnsons first ball on the helmet was possibly a ploy. Took all of Mitch's sting out of him for the whole series.
That series was possibly played on the flattest pitches ever produced in Australia. The Hume Highway has nothing on those pitches. Nothing I tell you. :D
 
Dougie Bollinger is an underrated bowler. 12 tests, 50 wickets @ 25.92 and a strike rate of 48. Could easily have had a more prolific test career.
 

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Nothing will ever beat the days when Mcgrath and Lee were in full flight, unbelievable players at their peak and we'll never see anything like it again.

I was a big Stuart Clark fan, even though he was short lived his tour of South Africa in 2006(?) was amazing, I'd take his peak over any of the rest.
I was a bit of a Stuart Clark fan until i heard him commentate
 
McGrath gets 1.
Harder after that.
Johnson had his moments but also he could be bad too, might go for Gillespie 2nd but not a lot in it.
5 minutes and 20 seconds into this video you can see no.1 and no.2 at their best.






Starc 3rd, Johnson 4th and Lee 5th.
Then Ryan Harris 6th.

Real shame Pattinson and Cummings been so injured in their careers. Reckon at their best they would be be in running for no.2 ranking.
 
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Nothing will ever beat the days when Mcgrath and Lee were in full flight, unbelievable players at their peak and we'll never see anything like it again.

I was a big Stuart Clark fan, even though he was short lived his tour of South Africa in 2006(?) was amazing, I'd take his peak over any of the rest.

Meh, I lived through them all and always hated Lee, great ODI bowler, but he didn't get any bounce, was often wide and bowled a lot of half volleys at 150kp/h which meant they were dispatched the fence easier.


I think Clark is underrated as well, he was a McGrath lite, was unfortunate to be born in the era he was, he's was as good as Hazlewood.

McGrath is in a league of his own, could move it off the seam more than anyone on these lists, Anderson like in that regard, but he hit the perfect length 9/10 and was 6"6, just never released the pressure. Best Australian quick ever and there would have to be someone seriously special to dislodge him.

Dizzy and Harris were absolute jets as well, hard to split them, I absolutely loved Dizzy.... and Harris' sample size is pretty small, but exceptional.

Johnsonson's Ashes 2-3 year period is as good as anyones, if he maintained that for his whole career, he'd be thought of on the Lilee and McGrath levels.

I lump Starc in the Lee category, he doesn't bowl with much skill at all, most of his wickets are raw pace.

Cummins has the highest potential of the 3 current bowlers, he is that yard quicker than Hazlewood, but has the control Starc doesn't have at all.


I'd have McGrath, Gillespie/Harris, Johnson.
 
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I lump Starc in the Lee category, he doesn't bowl with much skill at all, most of his wickets are raw pace.
Geez, you got no idea. Clearly not much of a bowler yourself if ever played cricket at all, to not even recognise skill in front of your eyes. Starc swingers takes a lot of skill to pull off. Not many can do it that good like first ball of spell the other day to start the end of the Poms.
 
Geez, you got no idea. Clearly not much of a bowler yourself if ever played cricket at all, to not even recognise skill in front of your eyes. Starc swingers takes a lot of skill to pull off. Not many can do it that good like first ball of spell the other day to start the end of the Poms.

I'm a cricket tragic mate.

Starc isn't a swing bowler like Anderson, Waqar, Wasim etc.

I wouldn't call him a swing bowler at all, sure he gets it to swing occasionally (more white ball cricket than test cricket), but so did Harris, McGrath etc when the conditions suited as well.

He has a fantastic yorker, is genuinely quick historically, he's in the Lee, Thompson and Johnson conversation of speed.

But he bowls genuine shit 50% of the time that the likes of McGrath, Gillespie, Harris didn't get close to doing. That's what I'm talking about when I'm talking about "skill" the ability to bowl to plans, get bowlers out and build pressure over an entire spell.

He bowls far looser than Brett Lee and he stuck out like dogs balls as bowling loose around McGrath and Gillespie.
 
You sound like an armchair one that hardly bowled a ball in your life by sounds of ignorance of Starc swing bowling ability.

Still playing.

Not hard to swing a new ball, go down the park you will see it every Saturday.

The true test would be if he could swing it both ways consistently, he can't.
 

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Johnson’s career was hamstrung by his mental demons. First it was his Mum not approving of the woman he married and then later on it was Phillip Hughes’ death that took the fire out of his belly. I knew it at the time and he said as much after his retirement. That and the deliberate flattening of wickets to stop his effectiveness. Both here and abroad.

What?

Let’s have a look at it realistically.
Subcontinent wickets are always flat. So there’s 3 nations out of the equation.

South Africa? Well they were never flattened to blunt him. He generally bowled very well there. So that’s four nations.
West Indies? We all know those wickets are more Asian than they are Central American.
England? Can’t have flattened them too much in 2009 because Hilfenhaus and Siddle both took 20+ wickets.
2013? Harris, Broad and Anderson all took more than 20.

That leaves New Zealand - where he played two tests and took a 6-for.
 

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