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Pick 14 - Adelaide - Daniel Venables Western Jets 186cm 81kg

This is a pick where I wanted to recruit a midfielder who can be dangerous forward of centre, an attacking player with pace and one who can also win his own ball if required. It is no secret the Adelaide midfield is the weak point in the side, forward line stacked with talent, and a very good young defensive unit, but the middle has been the question and more power and class is needed there and Venables was the best available fitting that mould.

Venables is a strong bodied midfield/half forward if you like who has a well balanced inside/out game. He can win his own ball with strength in the packs and has a good burst of power, almost explosive but I keep that term for the Judd's and Dangerfield's of this world. Has the strength to get the ball, get the arms free or push off his opponents and dish out quick and clean hands. If not, he can purely put some steps in and break away into space himself. When in space he is a good user of the footy and makes smart decisions on the whole. His kicking is solid, although not spectacular, it is definitely AFL competent. He thinks and moves like an AFL player but his biggest knock would be his consistency. You see some fantastic episodes of play but it is spasmodic. Sometimes he'll do it for a whole game and you truly think a seasoned AFL player has been dropped to the Under 18's and is running around doing as he pleases. He's tougher and stronger than most of his peers his age and has the type of frame that will really muscle up and bulk up to add further strength.

He can impact the scoreboard as well forward of centre, plays an attacking brand and has some agro about him which I love and when he goes for a run it is great to watch, has a style similar to Shuey but also see some of Heath Scotland there from yesteryear. Ready to go in 2017 for a few games but a body which will quickly fill out. Needs to add some endurance base perhaps to improve his consistency and allow him to spend more midfield time but would be very happy to accquire a player as damaging as he is at Pick 14.

I also considered Florent very strongly here, and also Bolton, but in the end I went for the stronger and most powerful player in Venables. If Powell-Pepper was available I may have taken him instead, would have been a lineball call as I rate his burst play very highly. But I feel Venables in the end will end up slightly better at AFL level.
 
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Pick 13 - West Coast. Sam Powell - Pepper. 186 cm 83 kg. East Perth.

I have been keeping a close eye on "The Shaker" for some time now and he keeps impressing me.
First and foremost he is a footballers footballer, he has a hunger for the contest and revels in the one on one challenges of winning the hard ball. He loves the physicality of the game and in fact seeks it out.

He possesses a few old fashion traits that I still value highly in assessing talent and the most important of them is that he hates losing. His efforts in the East Perth Colts Grand Final against the highly fancied Claremont side were inspirational as he went about willing his team on at every step, even in the face of overwhelming odds , simply put he lead by example, gathering 22 possessions , 7 tackles and hitting the score board with 4 goals 1 point. He never gave up.... he never does.

As far as his suitability for West Coast : He brings to the list several traits that we are in need of.
His intensity and ability to hit the contest at speed with velocity is one of them as is his ability to run and carry, The Shaker spreads the field and he is a genuine 70 meter player. Some of his running dashes are reminiscent of Peter Matera in full flight. He is also an inside / outside player and his tackle counts are high.

He has some points of difference that are also appealing.
Agility. :heavycheck:
Speed. :heavycheck:
Endurance. :heavycheck:
Raw Agression. :heavycheck:
Great athlete. Check out his Combine results. :heavycheck:
Even better footballer. :heavycheck::heavycheck:

There are also some other part to his make up that impress me as as West Coast supporter.

He bleeds Blue and Yellow and barracks for the Eagles.
Zero go home factor he would be an Eagle for life.
He does have positional versatility as he can play half forward, through the midfield and half back.

Sure he does have his flaws and his kicking on the run needs some more work. Having said that his kicking in 2016 has been much improved over his 2015 production.
Much of his kicking shortcomings are more to do with composure as he often has a tendency to rush his kicks, thats partly due to his bull at a gate approach. He needs to use his blistering pace in measured amounts and after he has gained separation on the run he needs to take a few steps to steady before he kicks. Thats something that can be both taught and learnt.

There is another aspect of The Shakers development that has scored well with me.
I loved that he has had good production in the Colts and WA teams over two seasons.
I have mentioned this in previous years and I will do so again. The kids who go back to the local WAFL and SANFL sides and play at at higher level and hold their own tend to make it at the AFL level.
Sam after the championships played a few Colts games and then got up graded to the East Perth Reserves for three games after which he was elevated to the League for the last five games of the regular season where he didn't look out of place. In fact he looked very comfortable at that grade.
He then in the finals played in the Colts and the benefit of having played at a higher level was evident as he took his finals games the Colts to a higher level.
There is a lot of improvement in this kid.
That to me is indicative of a someone with a high ceiling and a passion to learn his craft.

His progression over the last two seasons cant be ignored and in fact demands some respect.

He has his detractors who point out with regular monotony the fact that he is not an elite kick, however the detractors rarely comment on what he does exceedingly well. He has a real point of difference.
When you concentrate on what he does well and don't become so preoccupied with what he needs to work on, then its pretty hard to not be excited by what he could become.

Who does he remind me of: Dustin Martin comes to mind .

Others I considered were : Florant and to a lesser extent Venables .
Also I was tempted to bid on Harrison Perryman who I am a real fan of, but I knew that GWS would match that bid.

In the end the Home Grown Talent was simply to hard to pass up on.

Thunderstruck your up mate.
Monocle - thanks for the detailed write up and explanation. I like the pick and consider he was not necessarily best available but I think he was best available for West Coast. As you stated - he fills a need. I can see him putting immediate pressure on Le Cras and Hill in 2017. It will start to see the Eagles addressing the Flat Track Bullies name tag. Coached properly (read into that Sam Mitchell), he will learn to compose himself when taking on his midfield rotation.

I envisage the next 2 pre-season developments to be very obvious on SPP. He is a bull at the contest and part of his inaccuracy issue has been not slowing down to dispose. With the likes of Masten, Redden, Priddis and Hutchings, the Eagles are crying out to have more than Shuey hitting the contest with pace.

Good pick? Yes. Safe? Yes. But the side will be given a double boost with his energy and love of the contest. It may even bring the beast out in Jack Darling.
 
Pick 15. Port Adelaide- Todd Marshall (Murray Bushrangers) 197cm 86kg

Marshall is the highest rated player I have left on my board and I'm a big advocate for taking the best available player with your first pick. I think he is so raw and filled with so much potential. He has attributes that few key forwards have and they are becoming more desirable for modern AFL players. He is clean below his knees and has really good agility for a big man. He can clunk a contested mark when he gets a leap at it which is good because he is very weak in one on one contests due to his thin frame. He looks as if he hasn't been into a gym in his whole life and a couple of AFL pre seasons will do wonders for his development. He is not afraid to chase and tackle which is great to see in a big man as forward pressure seems to be a big thing at the moment.

I've seen a comparison to Darcy Moore thrown around lately and it is one that I tend to agree with. He has similar athleticism and a slight body with good hands. He remains more dangerous and comfortable closer to goals and I think this may be due to his lack of fitness. I think he would complement a big marking and big bodied forward like Charlie Dixon quite well and projects as a much better version of Dougal Howard. I think he has a massive ceiling and is the sort of guy who could be anything once he commits fully to a proper program and learns how to position himself in a contest and gets a bit of a fitness base up.

Quigley
 

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There was a bit of talk on our board a few weeks ago that if Marshal is available at pick 14 (15 in this case) he will probably still be available at pick 17 with GWS's pick 15 certain to be used on Setterfield and only Brisbane who probably need everything other than a skinny key forward picking between Ports first two picks.

That said any draft where we land Marshal is a win in my opinion.
 
There was a bit of talk on our board a few weeks ago that if Marshal is available at pick 14 (15 in this case) he will probably still be available at pick 17 with GWS's pick 15 certain to be used on Setterfield and only Brisbane who probably need everything other than a skinny key forward picking between Ports first two picks.

That said any draft where we land Marshal is a win in my opinion.

I just wanted to make sure I got the player I rated the highest. My second ranked player is Cedric Cox, who I see as a better version of Impey in terms of his ability to run and carry and play at both ends, but with better intensity, ferocious tackling and very good kicking. However I am very happy with Marshall there and I don't think Cox fills a need anyway, as much as I love him. The second pick is really interesting and one I'm struggling with. Lots of guys around the mark that I like.
 
I just wanted to make sure I got the player I rated the highest. My second ranked player is Cedric Cox, who I see as a better version of Impey in terms of his ability to run and carry and play at both ends, but with better intensity, ferocious tackling and very good kicking. However I am very happy with Marshall there and I don't think Cox fills a need anyway, as much as I love him. The second pick is really interesting and one I'm struggling with. Lots of guys around the mark that I like.
I honestly have 8 people i rate for my first pick (23) and could not tell you with any certainty which one will be there!
 
I just wanted to make sure I got the player I rated the highest. My second ranked player is Cedric Cox, who I see as a better version of Impey in terms of his ability to run and carry and play at both ends, but with better intensity, ferocious tackling and very good kicking. However I am very happy with Marshall there and I don't think Cox fills a need anyway, as much as I love him. The second pick is really interesting and one I'm struggling with. Lots of guys around the mark that I like.
Surely you'll just take Cox, if he's next on your list? Assuming Brisbane don't of course.
 
Pick 13 - West Coast. Sam Powell - Pepper. 186 cm 83 kg. East Perth.

I have been keeping a close eye on "The Shaker" for some time now and he keeps impressing me.
First and foremost he is a "footballers footballer", he has a hunger for the contest and revels in the one on one challenges of winning the hard ball. He loves the physicality of the game and in fact seeks it out.

He possesses a few old fashion traits that I still value highly in assessing talent and the most important of them is that he hates losing.
His efforts in the East Perth Colts Grand Final against the highly fancied Claremont side were inspirational as he went about "willing his team on" at every step, even in the face of overwhelming odds , simply put he lead by example, gathering 22 possessions , 7 tackles and hitting the score board with 4 goals 1 point. He never gave up.... he never does.

As far as his suitability for West Coast : He brings to the list several traits that we are in need of.
His intensity and ability to hit the contest at speed with velocity is one of them as is his ability to run and carry, The Shaker spreads the field and he is a genuine 70 meter player. Some of his running dashes are reminiscent of Peter Matera in full flight. He is also an inside / outside player and his tackle counts are high.

He has some points of difference that are also appealing.
Agility. :heavycheck:
Speed. :heavycheck:
Endurance. :heavycheck:
Raw Agression. :heavycheck:
Great athlete. Check out his Combine results. :heavycheck:
Even better footballer. :heavycheck::heavycheck:

There are also some other part to his make up that impress me as as West Coast supporter.

He bleeds Blue and Yellow and barracks for the Eagles.
Zero go home factor he would be an Eagle for life.
He does have positional versatility as he can play half forward, through the midfield and half back.

Sure he does have his flaws and his kicking on the run needs some more work. Having said that his kicking in 2016 has been much improved over his 2015 production.
Much of his kicking shortcomings are more to do with composure as he often has a tendency to rush his kicks, thats partly due to his bull at a gate approach. He needs to use his blistering pace in measured amounts and after he has gained separation on the run he needs to take a few steps to steady before he kicks. Thats something that can be both taught and learnt.

There is another aspect of The Shakers development that has scored well with me.
I loved that he has had good production in the Colts and WA teams over two seasons.
I have mentioned this in previous years and I will do so again. The kids who go back to their local WAFL and SANFL sides and play at at higher level and hold their own tend to make it at the AFL level.
Sam after the championships played a few Colts games and then got up graded to the East Perth Reserves for three games after which he was elevated to the League for the last five games of the regular season where he didn't look out of place. In fact he looked very comfortable at that grade.
He then in the finals played in the Colts and the benefit of having played at a higher level was evident as he took his finals games in the Colts to a higher level.
That to me is indicative of a someone with a high ceiling and a passion to learn his craft.
There is a lot of improvement in this kid.

His progression over the last two seasons cant be ignored and in fact demands some respect.

He has his detractors who point out with regular monotony the fact that he is not an elite kick, however the detractors rarely comment on what he does exceedingly well. He has a real point of difference.
When you concentrate on what he does well and don't become so preoccupied with what he needs to work on, then its pretty hard to not be excited by what he could become.

Who does he remind me of: Dustin Martin comes to mind .

Others I considered were : Florant and to a lesser extent Venables .
Also I was tempted to bid on Harrison Perryman who I am a real fan of, but I knew that GWS would match that bid.

In the end the Home Grown Talent was simply to hard to pass up on.



Thunderstruck your up mate.

Great write up and pick. Am a big fan of the kid. His kicking cant be ignored but its interesting when he rolls along to testing its fine. I sometimes wonder whether his issue is more how he copes with frontal pressure. Treloar a bit the same. I really like him as a player.
 
Why would I do that, Scheer will be matched most likely with 53 and 72. Also English is a ruckman/winger/CHB, most definitely not a forward at this stage. Why not take a ruckman and try and fix an area of weakness for Gold Coast.
Fair enough Offsider, but they did trade Jarrod Witts, Daniel Currie last
year and have Tom Nicholls and Peter Wright plus Lynch and Day. I
rate English pick 15 to 25 and actually had him going to Brisbane at
pick 22, but we are all different.
 

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Pick 16 - Brisbane - Oliver Florent

If I had time I probably would have put in a bid on Perryman who probably comes into consideration about now. I do not really rate Perryman particularly highly but someone probably bids about now.

Florent had some moments at the Champs but for me he was looking like a third rounder rather than a first rounder after playing up forward for Metro and averaging 12 disposal a game across the four games. He had been consistent in the TAC but the concern was that he did not have the ability to step up to the next level. The All Star game though changed the perception of many including myself. With Brodie and Settlefield not playing, Florent got the chance onball and was one of the best on ground. He finished with 28 disposals in what was probably his best game of the year. He then followed that game up with a very good performance at the Combine.

At Combine, Florent was equal first in the clean hands test and the beep test. He was also top 10 in the agility test with an 8.26 and in the top 15% in the running jumps. His speed test was a bit slower than I expected at 3.02 but certainly good enough. He did have a couple of bad and unusual results though. His repeat sprint was particularly baffling at 26.06 which given decent speed and good endurance was hard to explain. The other was his 3km time which unlike his beep test was very average. Overall he presented as a good athletic package.

Florent probably starts on a half forward flank but I am not sure he really stands out in that role. He is quite good getting up the ground and can deliver the ball into the 50 but I do not see him as a good enough goal kicker at AFL level. He takes quite a few marks in space but in the contest his marking is nothing to write home about and his finishing around goal is poor. He lacks confidence I think and talks himself into missing shots on goal.

If Florent is going to succeed I see him doing so through the midfield. He still has a lot to learn in that role and needs to work on accumulating more of the ball. Despite picking up a very nice 28 disposals in the All Star game he did not get over 30 disposals in any of his TAC games and averaged a tick under 20 per game over the year. He regularly has very quiet periods during games and he disappears for significant periods. If I took him I would look to play him in the reserves next year purely as a midfielder. Let him work on his midfield skills and get them to a level where he can be introduced the year after and succeed.

Onball he has good elusiveness in traffic and gets to where the taps are going really nicely. He positions himself well to collect the ruck taps and his hands are pretty clean especially with the ball on the ground where he keeps his head down well. He does not have a lot of hurt factor when he is onball at the moment but he can give his team first use of the ball which is important.

Physically he has okay height although he tends to play short. He is still fairly fine in the upper body but his lower half looks like he will fill out well as he matures. He lacks strength at the moment and will need to spend a lot of time in the gym in his early years. Both in the arms and through the body he needs greater strength and power.

Skills-wise is a bit of hit and miss at the moment but the good is very good. He is capable of delivering a lovely low kick to a target which can create opportunities for his team. On the other hand he does have more than his fair share of clangers which seem to go to the opposition. Teams will be hoping with more work his kicking will be more consistent and they can take the shockers out of his game. It could be something that is noticed early in his career. By hand he is also pretty good and is capable of delivering a nice long handball is needed.

I currently have Florent in my top 10 but he has a high risk of failure and probably more than you would like in the top 10. It is entirely possible that he ends up another Christian Salem but the team that takes him will be hoping that they end up with another Zach Merrett on their hands.
 
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Fair enough Offsider, but they did trade Jarrod Witts, Daniel Currie last
year and have Tom Nicholls and Peter Wright plus Lynch and Day. I
rate English pick 15 to 25 and actually had him going to Brisbane at
pick 22, but we are all different.
The selection of English is an interesting one. Most Suns supporters are against the idea given the players you've mentioned, our pressing need for midfielders, plus the fact we are likely to add young man-mountain Brayden Crossley from our Academy next year who will probably be AFL ready before English. However there are a growing minority of those who seem to think we'll take the WA ruckman. I think the only reason we'd select English is if he was seen as clearly the best available. Clayton regularly seems to reach with his later picks. Personally I think Scrimshaw would be taken if still available at our pick as Clayton is apparently very keen on him.
 
Surprised Florent was picked after guys like Vernables and SPP. So much upside with Oli I think, and a much more complete player in my opinion.
 
The selection of English is an interesting one. Most Suns supporters are against the idea given the players you've mentioned, our pressing need for midfielders, plus the fact we are likely to add young man-mountain Brayden Crossley from our Academy next year who will probably be AFL ready before English. However there are a growing minority of those who seem to think we'll take the WA ruckman. I think the only reason we'd select English is if he was seen as clearly the best available. Clayton regularly seems to reach with his later picks. Personally I think Scrimshaw would be taken if still available at our pick as Clayton is apparently very keen on him.
Clayton can reach with all picks even with 4,6,8 and 10 you can
feel a Jarrad Grant selection coming out just to bother the
livestock.
 
Can I make a suggestion?

All phantom drafters should submit their draft lists in order to an admin mod before the draft.

This way the draft would take about 5 minutes.

Just saying
Can I suggest you come back to this thread in 3 days and pretend it all happened in one day.
 

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