Analysis Blair Hartley Project 2015 V - Trade and Free Agency Discussion

[Nostradumbass]

what is this? A midfield for ANTS?

Mosquito fleet.

 

[Wild Westiger]

I would do Astbury+2nd+3rd for Brisbanes 2nd+3rd picks but not just 2nd q 10 spot upgrade in a weak draft

#12 + Astbury / Redden+#20 would be my preferred
#20 - Bennell ( if they are desperate and they want to get Harley to richmond . If he nominates us)
#30 - Yarran

With Hale getting older and possibly to retire this year - Ben Griffiths to Hawthorn would be a great fit for the Hawks

With Chaplin having maybe just a year left I'm not sure we should be giving up our big blokes just yet.

 

[MJ_23]

Mosquito fleet.

Willy had a good win on the weekend, any Lambert types we can snag in the PSD?

 

[57Tig]

So who is not signed up

cool found who is still to be signed

 

[Nostradumbass]

Willy had a good win on the weekend, any Lambert types we can snag in the PSD?

Don't think we'll get any this year.

 

[Put a Lids on it]

rogers, daffy and knights for lockett and winmar. Throw in a pick if we have to.

 

[MJ_23]

Don't think we'll get any this year.

I'd go Willie Wheeler, just for the entertainment value of his name

 

[57Tig]

cool found who is still to be signed

so is this accurate showing Mcdonna and Arnot delisted
No. Status Player Contract To Signed Length of Contract
1 Chris Newman Retired
2 Dylan Grimes 2018 September 17, 2015 3 years
3 Brett Deledio 2017 March 27th, 2012 5 years
4 Dustin Martin 2017 February 17th, 2015 2 years
5 Brandon Ellis 2017 September 4th, 2014 2 year extension
6 Uncontracted Shaun Grigg 2015 August 15, 2013 2 years
7 Uncontracted Matt Dea 2015 October 15th, 2014 1 year
8 Jack Riewoldt 2019 June 30th, 2015 3 year extension
9 Trent Cotchin 2020 December 4th, 2014 5 year extension
10 Shane Edwards 2016 May 21st, 2014 2 years
11 Jake Batchelor 2016 October 15th, 2014 2 years
12 David Astbury 2016 September 3rd, 2014 2 years
13 Ricky Petterd Retired
14 Bachar Houli 2016 March 4th, 2014 2 years
15 Chris Knights Retired
16 Shaun Hampson 2016 October 7, 2013 3 years
17
18 Alex Rance 2019 June 19th, 2015 4 years
19 Elevated Matt Thomas 2015 October 15th, 2014 1 year
20 Ivan Maric 2016 April 8th, 2014 2 years
21
22 Uncontracted Nathan Gordon 2015
23
24 Ben Griffiths 2016 September 4th, 2014 2 years
25 Troy Chaplin 2016 October 4th, 2012 4 years
26 Anthony Miles 2017 July 24th, 2015 1 year extension
27 Uncontracted Sam Lloyd 2015
28 Taylor Hunt 2017 August 10th, 2015 2 years
29 Tyrone Vickery 2016 March 4th, 2014 2 years
30 Reece Conca 2016 September 20th, 2013 3 years
31 Nick Vlastuin 2016 June 18th, 2013 3 years
32 Cory Ellis 2016
33 Kamdyn McIntosh 2017 June 26 ,2015 2 years
34 Liam McBean 2016 September 4th, 2014 2 years
35 Uncontracted Ben Lennon 2015
36 Matt McDonough Delisted
37 Connor Menadue 2016
38 Steven Morris 2017 March 4th, 2014 3 years
39 Nathan Drummond 2016
40 Daniel Butler 2016
41 Nathan Foley Retired
42 Reece Mckenzie 2016
43 Todd Elton 2017 July 24th, 2015 2 years
44 Matt Arnot Delisted
45 Rookie Jayden Short 2015
46 Elevated Jason Castagna 2015
47 Rookie Ivan Soldo 2015
48 Elevated Kane Lambert 2015

 

[docko911]

Jack Redden is my favourite non-Richmond player.

He is an ideal Hardwick player. I would go as far to say that he would be better in our team than Treloar.

If we could get him for Astbury + swap of picks we would be laughing. Then get one of Bennell or Yarran whichever works out best value.

 

[Rubber Hips]

No more midget midfielders thanks, Redden on the other hand is a big unit take him over Zorko any day of the week

Small crumbling forward is what we need...happy to take Zorko ...loves a goal...tackles hard, wins his own ball

 

[Cevap_Roll]

Willy had a good win on the weekend, any Lambert types we can snag in the PSD?

Shane Nelson, West Perth.

 

[pebblestone]

who's better Redden or Greenwood?...we were into Levi pretty big last year weren't we? Can't watch much of the Lions or any other club to be honest so have no idea which would be the better get, although I do recall having Redden in my supercoach team a few years back and was ok

Greenwood was awesome last year but average for 7 years before that.
Redden was awesome a few years ago but his form has sort of tapered and he's had a few injuries recently.

I would much prefer Redden and hope he is high on the club's list of targets.

 

[Richo Rules]

Scoop reported before that Freo & us are clear front runners for Bennell but how do we get he & Yarran?
word from Carlton is... wait for it..... Lennon & a 3rd rd pick for Yarran..... don't shoot the messenger

Simple 2nd or player for Yarran
1st ( maybe even next years ) or player for Bennell

 

[tonywilson43]

Scoop reported before that Freo & us are clear front runners for Bennell but how do we get he & Yarran?
word from Carlton is... wait for it..... Lennon & a 3rd rd pick for Yarran..... don't shoot the messenger

For bennel you need to give up first round pick and maybe a second rounder as well if freo want him bad enough

 

[petro12]

Shane Nelson, West Perth.

Someone's gotta pick this bloke. Smashed the draft combine a few years back read something a couple years ago he's got issues off field.

I'd still go for it. He's dominated WAFL for 3 years

 

[Cevap_Roll]

Someone's gotta pick this bloke. Smashed the draft combine a few years back read something a couple years ago he's got issues off field.

I'd still go for it. He's dominated WAFL for 3 years

Sneaky chance at Sandover medal this year despite missing a couple of games through injury. Came 2nd last year and has won his clubs b&f 2 years in a row.

Hes a really good kid. Not sure where the issues rumour came from.

 

[Mr Magic]

Small crumbling forward is what we need...happy to take Zorko loves a goal...tackles hard, wins his own ball

If we get Bennell and Yarran we would not really need another small forward with Lloyd and others developing away atm IMO

 

[Tiger Toffee]

I know it would never happen but imagine after Yarran met with Richmond during the year and deciding that the Tigers will be his new home that Richmond then asked Yarran to tank so we could get him over on a 2nd rounder instead of a first rounder.

 

[Catfish blue]

Why would Lennon want anything to do with the shithole that is Carlton football club? Their list is one of the worst AFL lists I have ever seen. I honestly think Fitzroy's list in their final years was in better shape. They have no A-graders, not f***ing one. Their closest player to an A-grader is a twenty year old in his second year and he couldn't even win that Mickey Mouse medal that Lewis Taylor, Danyle Pearce and Rhys Palmer won, yet they're pinning all of their hopes on him. Their captain is by far the worst in the AFL and has been a C-grader at best ever since his collision with Dangerfield. And then there's that other twat with the man bun and long sleeves who held the club at ransom by threatening to walk if they didn't pay him overs in his new contract. They stupidly did and he has since done sweet f*** all.

Their list management is diabolical. They've lost Josh Kennedy, Sam Jacobs, Eddie Betts, Shaun Grigg, Mitch Robinson, Jeff Garlett, Jarrad Waite and soon to be Chris Yarran, Dan Menzel, Tom Bell, Lachie Henderson and Matthew Kreuzer. They've brought in duds like Liam Jones, Andy Collins, Cam Wood, Andrejs Everitt and Jason Tutt. And then there's the older players who are either nearing the end of their careers or gone already - Kade Simpson, Andrew Walker, Dale Thomas, Chris Judd and Andrew Carrazzo. They literally have no one. If Lennon wants to go there he must have rocks in his head because I wouldn't be surprised if they go through the whole of 2016 without winning a single game.

Ohh Gosha what a delusional Richmond supporter you are!

1. Let's start with your comment on our captain Marc Murphy. This is the captain that is an All Australian, MVP and was best on ground in the elimination final when we beat your useless mob Richmond. Did you watch his season this year?? If you did you would know he has had a better season then Cotchin. By the way Cotchin is still missing from the G , he was reported to be last seen running out with the team. Talk about a C grade captain.

2. Now please don't ever talk about Patrick Cripps because you haven't even got one young player that would be worthy to clean his boots.

3. How can you bring Gibbs into the argument if he missed the whole season due to injury? He just missed out on AA last year..

4. Okay so we lost Josh Kennedy but received the best midfielder of the modern era? Yeh that's stupid. Next - Shaun Grigg and Robinson have more clangers than a musician playing the cymbals. Jeff Garlett is a front runner and Jarred Waite is about as consistent as Vickery...every 8 games. We let go of Eddie because his a known gambler and unfortunately lost Jacobs because he wanted to return HOME. Now Daniel Menzel plays for Geelong so we can't lose him. Tom Bell is a horse with blinkers on (poses No peripheral vision) and Lachie Henderson is overrated who has never put a full season together. Not losing much there. Liam jones is a dud that's he doesn't get a game. Everett is a star who kicked 31 goals as a mid tall. Yes Collins is a dud and Cam Wood and tut are just back ups. Let's just list Richmonds duds in recent years - Tambling, Mitch Farmer, Ricky Pettard, Chris Knights, Shaun Hampson, Aaron Edwards, Matt Thomas just to name a few.

So tell me why would Lennon want to stay at pathetic club like Richmond who has not won a final in 14 years and thinks they will win a flag with a bunch of recycled players? Whennnn he can come to a club with such a rich history who has won finals in the last 3 years and who has the best young coach in the competition with a very bright future ahead?

 

[pebblestone]

Ohh Gosha what a delusional Richmond supporter you are!

1. Let's start with your comment on our captain Marc Murphy. This is the captain that is an All Australian, MVP and was best on ground in the elimination final when we beat your useless mob Richmond. Did you watch his season this year?? If you did you would know he has had a better season then Cotchin. By the way Cotchin is still missing from the G , he was reported to be last seen running out with the team. Talk about a C grade captain.

2. Now please don't ever talk about Patrick Cripps because you haven't even got one young player that would be worthy to clean his boots.

3. How can you bring Gibbs into the argument if he missed the whole season due to injury? He just missed out on AA last year..

4. Okay so we lost Josh Kennedy but received the best midfielder of the modern era? Yeh that's stupid. Next - Shaun Grigg and Robinson have more clangers than a musician playing the cymbals. Jeff Garlett is a front runner and Jarred Waite is about as consistent as Vickery...every 8 games. We let go of Eddie because his a known gambler and unfortunately lost Jacobs because he wanted to return HOME. Now Daniel Menzel plays for Geelong so we can't lose him. Tom Bell is a horse with blinkers on (poses No peripheral vision) and Lachie Henderson is overrated who has never put a full season together. Not losing much there. Liam jones is a dud that's he doesn't get a game. Everett is a star who kicked 31 goals as a mid tall. Yes Collins is a dud and Cam Wood and tut are just back ups. Let's just list Richmonds duds in recent years - Tambling, Mitch Farmer, Ricky Pettard, Chris Knights, Shaun Hampson, Aaron Edwards, Matt Thomas just to name a few.

So tell me why would Lennon want to stay at pathetic club like Richmond who has not won a final in 14 years and thinks they will win a flag with a bunch of recycled players? Whennnn he can come to a club with such a rich history who has won finals in the last 3 years and who has the best young coach in the competition with a very bright future ahead?

You must be lost ****nut.

 

[Wackelpudding]

Ohh Gosha what a delusional Richmond supporter you are!

1. Let's start with your comment on our captain Marc Murphy. This is the captain that is an All Australian, MVP and was best on ground in the elimination final when we beat your useless mob Richmond. Did you watch his season this year?? If you did you would know he has had a better season then Cotchin. By the way Cotchin is still missing from the G , he was reported to be last seen running out with the team. Talk about a C grade captain.

2. Now please don't ever talk about Patrick Cripps because you haven't even got one young player that would be worthy to clean his boots.

3. How can you bring Gibbs into the argument if he missed the whole season due to injury? He just missed out on AA last year..

4. Okay so we lost Josh Kennedy but received the best midfielder of the modern era? Yeh that's stupid. Next - Shaun Grigg and Robinson have more clangers than a musician playing the cymbals. Jeff Garlett is a front runner and Jarred Waite is about as consistent as Vickery...every 8 games. We let go of Eddie because his a known gambler and unfortunately lost Jacobs because he wanted to return HOME. Now Daniel Menzel plays for Geelong so we can't lose him. Tom Bell is a horse with blinkers on (poses No peripheral vision) and Lachie Henderson is overrated who has never put a full season together. Not losing much there. Liam jones is a dud that's he doesn't get a game. Everett is a star who kicked 31 goals as a mid tall. Yes Collins is a dud and Cam Wood and tut are just back ups. Let's just list Richmonds duds in recent years - Tambling, Mitch Farmer, Ricky Pettard, Chris Knights, Shaun Hampson, Aaron Edwards, Matt Thomas just to name a few.

So tell me why would Lennon want to stay at pathetic club like Richmond who has not won a final in 14 years and thinks they will win a flag with a bunch of recycled players? Whennnn he can come to a club with such a rich history who has won finals in the last 3 years and who has the best young coach in the competition with a very bright future ahead?

Go troll somewhere else. You are not worth responding too.

 

[Tiges1229]

Ohh Gosha what a delusional Richmond supporter you are!

1. Let's start with your comment on our captain Marc Murphy. This is the captain that is an All Australian, MVP and was best on ground in the elimination final when we beat your useless mob Richmond. Did you watch his season this year?? If you did you would know he has had a better season then Cotchin. By the way Cotchin is still missing from the G , he was reported to be last seen running out with the team. Talk about a C grade captain.

2. Now please don't ever talk about Patrick Cripps because you haven't even got one young player that would be worthy to clean his boots.

3. How can you bring Gibbs into the argument if he missed the whole season due to injury? He just missed out on AA last year..

4. Okay so we lost Josh Kennedy but received the best midfielder of the modern era? Yeh that's stupid. Next - Shaun Grigg and Robinson have more clangers than a musician playing the cymbals. Jeff Garlett is a front runner and Jarred Waite is about as consistent as Vickery...every 8 games. We let go of Eddie because his a known gambler and unfortunately lost Jacobs because he wanted to return HOME. Now Daniel Menzel plays for Geelong so we can't lose him. Tom Bell is a horse with blinkers on (poses No peripheral vision) and Lachie Henderson is overrated who has never put a full season together. Not losing much there. Liam jones is a dud that's he doesn't get a game. Everett is a star who kicked 31 goals as a mid tall. Yes Collins is a dud and Cam Wood and tut are just back ups. Let's just list Richmonds duds in recent years - Tambling, Mitch Farmer, Ricky Pettard, Chris Knights, Shaun Hampson, Aaron Edwards, Matt Thomas just to name a few.

So tell me why would Lennon want to stay at pathetic club like Richmond who has not won a final in 14 years and thinks they will win a flag with a bunch of recycled players? Whennnn he can come to a club with such a rich history who has won finals in the last 3 years and who has the best young coach in the competition with a very bright future ahead?

Piss off

 

[ryza87]

Ohh Gosha what a delusional Richmond supporter you are!

1. Let's start with your comment on our captain Marc Murphy. This is the captain that is an All Australian, MVP and was best on ground in the elimination final when we beat your useless mob Richmond. Did you watch his season this year?? If you did you would know he has had a better season then Cotchin. By the way Cotchin is still missing from the G , he was reported to be last seen running out with the team. Talk about a C grade captain.

2. Now please don't ever talk about Patrick Cripps because you haven't even got one young player that would be worthy to clean his boots.

3. How can you bring Gibbs into the argument if he missed the whole season due to injury? He just missed out on AA last year..

4. Okay so we lost Josh Kennedy but received the best midfielder of the modern era? Yeh that's stupid. Next - Shaun Grigg and Robinson have more clangers than a musician playing the cymbals. Jeff Garlett is a front runner and Jarred Waite is about as consistent as Vickery...every 8 games. We let go of Eddie because his a known gambler and unfortunately lost Jacobs because he wanted to return HOME. Now Daniel Menzel plays for Geelong so we can't lose him. Tom Bell is a horse with blinkers on (poses No peripheral vision) and Lachie Henderson is overrated who has never put a full season together. Not losing much there. Liam jones is a dud that's he doesn't get a game. Everett is a star who kicked 31 goals as a mid tall. Yes Collins is a dud and Cam Wood and tut are just back ups. Let's just list Richmonds duds in recent years - Tambling, Mitch Farmer, Ricky Pettard, Chris Knights, Shaun Hampson, Aaron Edwards, Matt Thomas just to name a few.

So tell me why would Lennon want to stay at pathetic club like Richmond who has not won a final in 14 years and thinks they will win a flag with a bunch of recycled players? Whennnn he can come to a club with such a rich history who has won finals in the last 3 years and who has the best young coach in the competition with a very bright future ahead?

You lost me at Marc Furphy

 

[_RT_]

richoatthedisco Jansen agreed to terms with Brisbane.

 

[RobsJourney]

Ohh Gosha what a delusional Richmond supporter you are!

1. Let's start with your comment on our captain Marc Murphy. This is the captain that is an All Australian, MVP and was best on ground in the elimination final when we beat your useless mob Richmond. Did you watch his season this year?? If you did you would know he has had a better season then Cotchin. By the way Cotchin is still missing from the G , he was reported to be last seen running out with the team. Talk about a C grade captain.

2. Now please don't ever talk about Patrick Cripps because you haven't even got one young player that would be worthy to clean his boots.

3. How can you bring Gibbs into the argument if he missed the whole season due to injury? He just missed out on AA last year..

4. Okay so we lost Josh Kennedy but received the best midfielder of the modern era? Yeh that's stupid. Next - Shaun Grigg and Robinson have more clangers than a musician playing the cymbals. Jeff Garlett is a front runner and Jarred Waite is about as consistent as Vickery...every 8 games. We let go of Eddie because his a known gambler and unfortunately lost Jacobs because he wanted to return HOME. Now Daniel Menzel plays for Geelong so we can't lose him. Tom Bell is a horse with blinkers on (poses No peripheral vision) and Lachie Henderson is overrated who has never put a full season together. Not losing much there. Liam jones is a dud that's he doesn't get a game. Everett is a star who kicked 31 goals as a mid tall. Yes Collins is a dud and Cam Wood and tut are just back ups. Let's just list Richmonds duds in recent years - Tambling, Mitch Farmer, Ricky Pettard, Chris Knights, Shaun Hampson, Aaron Edwards, Matt Thomas just to name a few.

So tell me why would Lennon want to stay at pathetic club like Richmond who has not won a final in 14 years and thinks they will win a flag with a bunch of recycled players? Whennnn he can come to a club with such a rich history who has won finals in the last 3 years and who has the best young coach in the competition with a very bright future ahead?

Whose list would you rather play for in 2016, Richmond or Carlton, if someone walked up to you and offered you a contract right now?
Besides Cripps your team is really, really bad right now, and I'm not trying to be offensive.
You need a PROPER rebuild.
If Lennon wanted to go to Carlton then so be it but he will be part of a team hanging around near the bottom for quite a while to come..sorry man.