Bluemour Discussion Thread XIII - Facts Not Welcome

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No point having this wonderful talls if midfield can't get the ball to them.
Its a combination of more entries and better quality entries needed .
If theres no mature quality mids coming in to add another layer to our midfield then hopefully the organic improvement from a number of our young players rectify this sooner rather than later .
 

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Surely we are looking at someone else from GWS, or another smokey A grade from another team, if we are "not rushing" Setterfield.

GWS wanted a pick this year for DS*, I'm sure a future pick would get Setters over the line alone.
 
Finally caught up, wow!!! people saying trade period is already a failure? serious? we miss out on Shiel and it turns to shit. We got reamed re McGovern etc..

Hard facts
  • There is no magic wand
  • we came last
  • What 26 Yo player in their prime who has gone through many seasons at GWS would want to go through it all again when he could only have a possible 4 years of good footy left in him. Plus i dont see many big names knocking our doors down nominating us. It was amazing we got so close with Shiel. But everyone has a limit on their budget and SOS wasn't prepared to offer No. 1 which would have resulted in GWS encouraging him to nominate us.
  • Lets knock back MM cos he is overvalued, at this stage I dont see any other forward with similar potential nominating us. Midfield is our main priority but our FWD line is our second.
  • Fasolo - Could be a bust but again after every game review this year there were melt downs in regards to not having a small crumbing forward. So what is the risk giving him a shot for 1 year. He is well down the pecking order at filth but can still play and is better that what we currently have at this stage of development. We have been courting and speaking to many players behind the scenes No one else has nominated us.
It seems that some assume we just need to approach players make them an offer negotiate the hell out of the other team because SOS is a magician. And got help if it perceived we pay overs or fail.

We are coming form a very log way back, at least we are trading responsibly and not selling the farm. We obviously put a value on potential targets and if the said trade is outside our budget or plans then we dont proceed. We still have pick one and as SOS has alluded its not up for trade unless there is a offer we couldn't refuse.
 
So our main trading picks in 20’s are gone now
So how the hell does setters move?
What a disappointment
You would have to assume that we have worked this out with GWS already. It would make no sense to go to them now and start talking about Setters.
 
We have effectively paid the equivalent of #17 plus McAdam going off 2018 finishing positions to determine the worth of the future picks involved.

Crows have effectively traded McGovern for #41 and McAdam points wise.

Swans made out like bandits gaining 623 points.
 
We could have had pick 1 pick 13 plus Mcadam in a super draft instead of getting MM. Get two elite midfielders with these selections.
 
You would have to assume that we have worked this out with GWS already. It would make no sense to go to them now and start talking about Setters.

Negotiations, GWS posturing would be about it. See what they split for Shiel and then assess their picks at both drafts.
 
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